Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Titans Remind The Texans They're Still The Same Old Texans Edition
by August West on Dec 20, 2010 11:11 AM CST
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This is Kenny Britt's passing game. After seeing the difference he's made since he got back, I'm pretty certain that there's no way the losing streak would have lasted as long with a healthy Britt. Kenny caught big 3rd down passes, made plays at every level of the field and drew enough attention from the Texans' defense that Chris Johnson and the other WRs had room to work. If he still had a QB who could get the ball downfield without viciously under-throwing it he'd be getting three times the attention he is.
Kevin Mawae made numerous media last week, but none were more direct and revealing than what he told Peter King for this week's MMQB:
5. I think more ominous clouds over the future of Jeff Fisher in Tennessee formed the other day when I spoke with recently retired Titans center Kevin Mawae on Sirius NFL Radio. He said he thinks, as I do, that the Fisher/Vince Young relationship "is headed for a divorce,'' with Fisher likely the one who will be leaving. "If I'm a player in that locker room,'' Mawae said, "I know how much [owner] Bud Adams loves Vince Young. I hate to say it, but I think Bud Adams would side with Vince Young.''
Regarldess of what your opinion is over what's happened with our 'franchise QB', we all have to give some props to Kerry Collins for how well he's played over the past two games. He's put together the first legitimate back-to-back 100+ passer rating games by a Titans QB in over 5 years. He's limited the mistakes (even the INT this week probably gets broken up by Britt if he doesn't fall down coming out of his break) and taken advantage of what he's been presented with by the defense. He's completely lost his long-ball, but his steady play has been a big boost. Since it's Kerry Collins we have no idea how long it'll be until he puts up another stinker like the Jaguars game, but lets hope the hot streak keeps rolling for a few more weeks.
Was Bo Scaife benched because of his comments to the local media last week about a possible divide in the locker room, or because the team really wanted to see more out of Jared Cook and needed the extra active spot for depth along the heavily-wounded defensive line (as Fisher stated after the game)? Quite frankly I don't care, because the end result was a more potent offense and a good day from both Cook and CJ. The Bo Sacife era has passed in Nashville, and it's Jared Cook time from here on out. Besides, you can get someone to do what Alge Crumpler did in 2009 for cheap in free agency any year. That person splitting the 2nd TE spot with Stevens, and Cook as the primary TE spot are what I expect to see in 2011.
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Paul K breaks down the remaining paths to the playoffs for the Titans, Colts and Jaguars.
Cortland Finnegan had a damned good game against Andre Johnson, holding the all-world receiver to 6 catches for 58 yards (nearly 5 yards below Johnson's 2010 YPC average), and allowing a 1-yard TD pass where Finnegan fell down after making contract with Johnson. Finnegan was able to keep AJ well under control without getting dinged for any 15 yard penalties.
Fernando Velasco held up well against a Texans D-line that sorely missed Mario Williams, but if he can play at that same level through the end of the season the Titans are going to have to seriously consider playing Velasco there moving forward and sliding Amano back to the guard spot he played so well last year. The best option, however, is to improve the talent at one of the spots through free agency or the draft, then let Amano, Velasco and Harris battle it out for the remaining spot.
Jason Babin had a MONSTER game in what has been a monster season for the DE. He wisely thanked the offense after the game, saying that getting the early lead let the D-line do what it does best: forget the run and punish the passer. The shame of it is that we signed Babin for a one-year, $1 million deal, and he may be playing his way out of our price range.
The Titans' win yesterday didn't just end the Texans' hopes of sneaking into the playoffs, it may have sealed the coffin on Gary Kubiak's tenure with the team. If that's true, someone is going to get one hell of an offensive coordinator next year... provided he doesn't get the head job back in Denver, where he was Shanahan's right-hand man for so many years.
David Climer discusses the side-line appearance of a certain QB.
Sportsinthe615 declares that Chris Johnson 'no longer has a fifth gear'.
Not so long ago it came out that the Titans defenders were calling out damned near every play at the line against the Jaguars, and now it appears that the same thing happened against the Dolphins:
The Miami Dolphins managed to beat the Tennessee Titans despite the fact that Courtland Finnegan told Brandon Marshall what plays were going to be run before they ran them.
Thought this was a funny line from riversmccown at BRB (no need to click on the link, this is the only part worth reading):
This Titans passing game, while it looked better in the second half last week, had looked abysmal since Vince Young was placed on injured reserve with shattered pride. Instead, Kerry Collins decimated the Texans, raising questions about Rusty Smith's ability to perform the ABC's while playing hopscotch.
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Whats with everyone saying that Johnson doesnt have the fifth gear anymore?
The long run he got taken down by a fast player who had the angle. Plus, CJ is the main back now so any bruises are gonna sting when running that hard, and being the main back eats at his stamina.
Oh hai MCM
yeah CJ is done
He’ll never run for 2000 yards again and we’ll have to settle for these subpar, lackluster, scrub-worthy, and wholly god awful 1500+ 15 touchdown seasons. We might as well trade him now for a 7th round pick, because we’d be lucky to get that. He might never have another 85+ yard TD again that’s not called back for a penalty because of shoddy Pittsburgh friendly officiating. How will CJ and more importanly us as fans survive the shame of it all?
by asbestos_man on Dec 20, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
CJ is still an awesome back
But I think we can all agree that we got used to him never getting caught.
I saw him get caught once!
remember, DRC caught him at the end of that 80 yarder against Arizona last year, dude’s a SCRUB.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't that Ringer?
I distinctly remember Ringer having a long run where I (and everyone sitting around me) was thinking, “If that was CJ, it was a score.”
CJ also did have something close to (maybe longer) an 80-yard TD in that game, cause immediately after that, Larod Stephens-Howling returned the kickoff for a TD. It was a demoralizing feeling until that final drive.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
No DRC tripped him in the endzone of that Cardinal's game
Then got up and started talking shit to CJ which I thought was even funnier.
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But CJ did score?
I can’t really remember that game except for CJ scoring, the kickoff return immediately after, then the final drive.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah he started pulling back before getting into the endzone and DRC came up from behind and tripped him up while he was slowing down for the score
It was great because I live and AZ, I was about to explode from happiness and then DRC got up to talk shit to CJ after getting burnt. My friends were not happy with me that night…
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nah nah, that wasnt caught
That was slow down and caught.
And shouldn’t it be easier for someone in the secondary to catch a RB? Because they already have about a 5-10 yard advantage
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 21, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
On Scaife and possibly being benched for the roster spot,
I think that’s just coach-speak by Fisher. It reminds me of the offseason when Belichick took down all the pictures of the past Patriot teams and told the media ‘The walls needed painting.’
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 20, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions
Totally coachspeak. You don't make make a guy inactive who you thought was valuable enough to the franchise to stick a franchise tag on him preseason.
The team is better of for it, but I’m 100% that this was Fisher “sticking it” to Bo.
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Dec 20, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions
since it looks like
our all time franchise tag player maybe going out, we have tha franchise tag available if needed for a player like babin
TOUCHDOWN...GUESS WHO...KENNY BRITT!
franchise tag on a DE is really expensive
can’t imagine they would burn that kind of cash for just 1 more season of babin. i’m sure it would be more economical to get him on a 3-4 year deal instead.
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Who is a free agent this year?
I hear Moss is a free agent, we should go after him. Imagine him and britt on the field at the same time
by CrazyTitan on Dec 20, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
^Now that would be something!
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Dec 20, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah if we could get Moss we could totally try something like that
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by billycthulhu on Dec 20, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
interesting scenario
assuming a new coach is brought in and Bud keeps VY (which i think is likely but by no means certain) and if bud is willing to put up the money, you could make a strong argument to franchise moss and let someone new (Kubiak?) have a go with:
VY, new back up
CJ, Ringer, Hall
Britt, Moss, Washington, Williams, Hawkins
Cook, Stevens, new Crumpler-type big blocker
if we could dump VY and/or get Kolb, that would be even better for me.
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That's an interesting scenario...
Would you say this is very likely? I like Kubiak and I am sure he would love to have all these weapons at his disposal.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 20, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
He has a lot of weapons at his disposal right now
And they are worse than we are
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their offense isn't
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 12:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
with all due respect
if CJ had holes to run through like Foster does…..
if we knew how to use britt and moss at the same time…..
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I'm not sure Kubiak can fix #1.
This is basically his first year with a dominant run game, and both he and Dinger are disciples of Shanahan/Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme. I’m not sure Kubiak adds much to the equation in that regard.
Well O-Line isn't entirely coaching...
I also think we don’t have the talent in some of the positions.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 20, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
I know...
So we would have to draft or acquire or trade…
It’s going to be hard for us to predict things at this point… but I liked the idea hal41605 proposed.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 20, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I know...
So we would have to draft or acquire or trade…
It’s going to be hard for us to predict things at this point… but I liked the idea hal41605 proposed.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 20, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
It's funny that CJ leads the NFL in 100 yard games this season
And still has more than 1200 yards and we talk about our running game not working to it’s potential.
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I still believe his potential is 1600+ yards every season for the next 4-5 seasons
unrealistic? maybe but he’s a supremely talented back, probably the most talented in the league. that being said, he still has a 5.1 YPC for his career and a 4.6 this year, so I’m more or less satisfied with his performance this season. I think the only way he could have been better this year is if he was more involved in the passing game.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
He dropped another easy one yesterday
But CJ in our passing game is waaaaaay down on our list of issues.
I am happy with his performance.
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And how much respect has the passing game really gotten this year? Teams were and are daring this offense to throw it, ganging up on the line of scrimmage to stop CJ, I don’t know if a mauler like Eddie George could get throw the 8,9 man fronts we’ve seen this year.
It may a “down” year relatively speaking (especially compared to 2,000 yards), but he is still a Top 2 back in this league with Adrian Peterson.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
*through, what was I thinking there?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
What Kubiak has proved is he is a better coach than Fisher
When it comes to having an 8-8 season. He does it all the time, while Fisher does throw in the occasional 11-5, 12-4, or 13-3.
by asbestos_man on Dec 20, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
and still
manages to get bumped in the first round
by Indiana Titan on Dec 20, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
We all know Fisher's problems
I was highlighting Kubiaks. Kubiak wishes he could get bumped in the first round.
by asbestos_man on Dec 20, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
but still pretty sad when we go 13-3 and home field and cant make it out of the first round. I wouldnt want kubiak here.
by Indiana Titan on Dec 20, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
well... when the play clock hits zero
you have to blow the whistle… I still have nightmares about that game. one time, I had a dream that they did blow the whistle and we won the game. Then I woke up and was depressed for a few days.
do you mean Kubiak as a HC or OC?
I could get used to a Kubiak run offense, especially if we get some kind of cannon armed QB like Devlin in the second round to chuck it up to Britt or Williams
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 12:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
preferably OC, wouldn't be thrilled with HC
unless we get a high quality DC to let Kubiak just do the offense.
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kolb with those weapons?
what about that sounds bad to you?
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I haven't seen enough positives out of Kolb to build a franchise out of him. If you're committing one or two first rounders to get him, you basically better know that you're getting a franchise QB.
I think he’s above average to very good, but not good enough to build a franchise around.
i dont think building a franchise is really the mission anymore, to be honest
i think it’s “win one before Bud dies” if we are going for the short term, i think it’s a valid option.
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for as badly as Bud has done things recently
we kind of owe him one for, you know, getting us a team.
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Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Eh, at one first round pick, maybe. Two is too much, and I don't see this team making that sort of trade.
And, from a scheme perspective, I don’t think Kolb is a fit under Dinger.
Reid is a WC disciple, and while you’ll see highlights of some of their vertical plays, the offense is really built around short routes. His offense requires an accurate, mobile QB that can dink and dunk all day.
Kolb came from a spread offense at Houston, and has the perfect skill set for said offense, but I think you’d see him struggle in Dinger’s scheme where there’s more of an emphasis on the vertical passing game. Maybe not, and maybe Dinger can adapt. If we really wanted a Kolb like QB, the Titans should have scooped up Colt McCoy in last years draft. His skill set is identical to Kolb’s coming out of college, but he was more productive.
2 is rediculous!!!
anybody ever heard of a player being traded for 2 first round picks? especially somebody as unproven as Kolb.
That's a high price to pay.
Especially for someone who was drafted in the second and is riding the bench behind a potential NFL MVP. I think they’d be happy to recoup the second round pick they used to get him, unless they don’t plan on re-signing Vick.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
My coaching picks
Dick Labeau-steelers D-coordinator as HC and Houston’s Kubiak as OC or better yet, what’s Tony Dungy’s plans for 2011?
by memphisbleek on Dec 20, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Tony Dungy's worth + Manning = terrific
Tony Dungy’s worth – Manning = nothing
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
except for that tampa superbowl gruden stole
Rediculous - quote from Joy Kat
i would love it if someone came here and stole jeff fisher's super bowl
that’s what i was getting at earlier. the offense is loaded if we can get consistent QB play. the defense has it’s flaws, but it doesn’t get much better than CJ, Britt, Moss, Washington, Cook, Williams, Hawkins. if somebody knew how to put those dudes in 4 & 5 receiver sets w/ an above average QB, that’s an insane offense. clearly it’s a job for someone other than the current dinger/fisher regime, but it’s not that crazy.
off season plan of attack
bring in dungy to lure Peyton away from Indy ala Lebron, extend CJ, bring back Haynesworth, and franchise tag Moss. /magic superbowl’d
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Isn't LeBeau in his 70s?
As brilliant of a DC as he is, I don’t really want a 70-something new head coach. I would prefer to go the Sean Payton route of getting a younger, proven coordinator.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Why do we want kolb?
He throws Just like KC did that was tipped by two Fexans and caught by Kenny Britt.
His No0dLe arm is horrible!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 21, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I really don't get why everyone loves Kolb so much
We haven’t seen anything from him that’s worth any 1-4th round pick.
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I still don't think it's back like it was
seems like I saw an interview with him where he said something like, I guess I just have to get used to it being crooked.
He doesn't have any
He just needs to feel wanted.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
if we dont link bleacher report articles maybe its about time to stop posting peter king links
you can write his MMQB article on sunday night and end up with all the same crap. favre rocks, bellicheks a genius, tennessee fans are stupid for wanting fisher out, matt ryan is mature beyond his years, etc etc
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His twitter was worse than MMQB last night
Almost every tweet was bashing desean jackson for doing the brandon stokley run out the clock like in madden move.
by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 20, 2010 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
oh lord
spare me King…
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
By popular demand (and cause I teased it and StPrattrick may revolt if I don't)
gramsey712’s observations from a bizarro day at LP Field yesterday:
(Disclaimer: the Budweiser was flowing like water in parking lot H starting about 9 yesterday morning, so take these for what they are worth)
-Darrell Waltrip was the 12th Titan yesterday. He fired up approximately 43 fans. I was not one of them.
-Speaking of 43 fans, that may have been all there were in the stadium yesterday. That was by far the worst regular season crowd I have ever seen at LP, and I have only missed one (the Cardinals game last year) in 6 seasons.
-Strangely, Randy Moss was introduced as a starter….and did not run out of the tunnel. First time I have ever seen that.
-Strangely #2, Another first during my time at LP, Bud Adams’ box was completely empty for the entire game. Like I don’t even think the lights were on (at least they are environmentally friendly!). I thought this was very strange for the Houston game.
-Vince was on the sideline (did y’all know that?!?!?!?). When Collins threw his interception to Jason Allen, Jason Jones jumped up and ran up to Vince and they chest bumped.
-During the game, Moss is very involved with the offensive players….standing right on the sideline while we are on offense and was always talking to the other receivers and Collins.
-But when the clock hit 0, Moss ducked his head and sprinted to the locker room while everyone else walked out onto the field.
All in all it was a good day at LP, the weather was not too bad because I had 27 layers on (and my mother in law snuck in a flask of Jack Daniels), and it is always nice to walk out after a victory. 3-5 at home is much much better than 2-6.
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by August West on Dec 20, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Vouch
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Thank you Gramsey
Now I can go on living my day…
Coincidentally, I was Level: Danger of any loud sounds making me throw up , while watching the game yesterday from my mom and I taking Rumplemintz shots till 1:30 in the morning. Yay Mom’s!!
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by August West on Dec 20, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
You missed the best game last yaer??
by titansfan4ever on Dec 20, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Little g had to get an Upper GI endoscopy on the next Monday morning
And we had to be at the hospital at 5:30.
And before you get on to me for bad scheduling, that was literally the only appointment that there was before the end of the year when we made it. We tried to schedule it after an away game!
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by titansfan4ever on Dec 20, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
I was actually surprised there were as many people as there were.
I was expecting a much lower turnout.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
And Moss was the last guy to run out with the rest of the team before they started introducing the offense.
I noticed him right away with the gloves on, I wonder if he was just expecting Britt to be introduced with the starters.
Anyone else find it interesting that Britt ran out with Johnson? What was up with that?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
They're tight, I know that...and...
with “you know who” too.
by titansfan4ever on Dec 20, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
I figured that one, especially with Britt's towel last week.
I’m thinking it was probably just some sort of hype thing or just goofing around and having fun.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
its just the younger guys on the team have obviously bonded
not really surprising
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Thanks now i can get back to work....or not
Moss is going to make a good coach someday, but the whole Moss thing as a whole is really weird.
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Dec 20, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
This actually happened?
When Collins threw his interception to Jason Allen, Jason Jones jumped up and ran up to Vince and they chest bumped.
???
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thats what I was wondering...
& why none of the media reported on it, sense they love to continue the drama
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Glad to hear about Moss' tutoring of the WR's though
At least he is involved in the game & with the team…..
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Was it cause of the INT? Or did Jones just happen to see him for the first time on the sideline?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know. Jones jumped up and ran straight at him like he knew he was there.
It was probably innocent, but the timing was pretty bad.
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It's good to be a winner on Monday
It sucked so much the prior 6 games…but, this kind of game is what makes me so upset at Fisher. This team has talent…but where were these adjustments and changes 4 games ago? Did Cook all of a sudden master the offense in the span of one week? Did Fisher just now notice Scaife is not a good TE? And, does the coaching staff now see that moving Amano to center was a bad move? And, there was at least a bit of creativity in the running game (CJ’s long run was in a 3 RB formation with Stevens and Hall in the backfield)…where has that been?
So, this just confirms for me…Fisher takes way too long to make adjustments in the modern NFL game. He stays with players who are underperforming way too long.
I do hope, by some miracle, that the Titans sneak into the playoffs…but my happiness is tempered by my realization that if we do make the playoffs then we may be stuck with Fisher another year.
by shawneriksmith on Dec 20, 2010 12:43 PM CST reply actions
Dude, I don't want to rain on your victory parade or anything....
but….It WAS the Texans, man. It’s kind of like when I beat my 8 yr old at “horse”. I can’t get too excited about it…but hey…a win is a win, right? But for us to be talking about making it into the playoffs (cue Mora tape now)…..well that’s just delusional…:-(
by titansfan4ever on Dec 20, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
like anyone would need an excuse to bench scaiffe?
"hey, quit reading these ridiculous words of wisdom and get back to work!"
by stetix01 on Dec 20, 2010 1:09 PM CST reply actions
my thought exactly
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Maybe the benching
had something to do with us winning a game finally also??
by Indiana Titan on Dec 20, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
And TEs actually catching the ball?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
But like I said in a previous post
It doesn’t bother me that he wasn’t the starter because it’s way past about time we saw what Cookie could bring to the table. It bothers me that he was an completely inactive healthy veteran starter and Fisher didn’t tell him he would be till the start of the game… weaksauce.
When has Fisher have inactivated a healthy starter to move up a back-up? Possibly because of his comments, if that’s true -30 points of respect for Fisher. He’s hitting new lows.
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dont you remember when he benched a healthy harper for his back up like that last year?
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Got to Give Props to the Old Man. Kerry Collins Won Us The Game
I was about to stick a fork in him. But he still showing flashes of his old self. The long ball eludes him understandably because of his age. Other than the long ball, Collins can make most of the throws.
Go Titans
And bounce back from mistakes and shake off any "boo"s from the crowd.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
I still have my fork handy
There has to be an almost magical set of circumstances for Collins to be good anymore. Zero Pass rush especially up the middle or he’ll just toddle backwards and throw the ball away. Pretty darn good receivers because because his touch on passes is almost as gone as his long ball. I would hate to see Collins without CJ. And more lately it seems that his best games are the result of secondaries having brainfarts (Eagles), Crazy amount of injuries (Colts), and of course being the Texans.
by asbestos_man on Dec 20, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Better to be lucky than good?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I was using the term magic
but better lucky than good sums it up.
by asbestos_man on Dec 20, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
i really liked his deep ball to britt early in the game
he didnt set the world on fire. he is what he is, a solid back up
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No, there was one deep ball
down the left side where the receiver was wide open. The receiver had to slow down and turn around to catch the underthrown ball. It looked to me like a deeper pass would have let the receiver catch it in stride and score before the safety could make it over to stop him. I’m pretty sure they ended up scoring on that drive anyway, but that throw was not great.
I agree with this for the most part
Collins played well, definitely, over the past two games. But, the Colts were playing their second team on defense (at least, the secondary)…can you imagine if Finnegan, ATV, McCourty, and Griffin were to get hurt? I would hope teams could pass on a defense without any of its starters in the secondary…
And, the Texans are possibly the worst pass defense this past decade…which just amazes me more how bad Rusty Smith was against them.
Add in some great play by WRs on well-underthrown balls and I can see how we shouldn’t get too excited…
But, Collins played well. He’s going to have a much tougher test against the Chiefs.
by shawneriksmith on Dec 20, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
he’s put a few nice games together but he’s done, should probably retire at the end of this year.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
he can still be a good back-up/mentor for a team
a lot of coaches would rather have his steady mediocrity than a young guy who gets flustered and breaks down.
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KC gets flustered and breaks down all the time
send some pressure up the middle and he floats the ball out of bounds. one bad hit and he can “break down” in another way too.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
floating the ball out of bounds
is a lot better than some of the other outcomes of that situation
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its way better than rushing and just dropping the ball
thats for sure
fair enough
but in a desirable situation, you want a QB who can avoid pressure coming from right in front of him
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Did anybody see Britt's quote?
From Sportsinthe615 — Not if you listen to Britt, who tossed out this gem this week when asked about the notebook Moss keeps on cornerbacks: "I don’t wanna see it. I didn’t like books in school and I don’t like them now."
u dont have to be a smart person
to be a great ball player.
Here’s our proof
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he will be more likely to sustain a career if he starts to study some...
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by DonFrancisco on Dec 20, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Kerry should retire
KC has had 2 good games but don’t be fooled. Thats what got him a 2-year $15 mill contract for two garbage seasons. He is not gonna lead a team to a SB.
Exactly right
He’s had two “good” games against the worst pass defense in NFL history and a very banged up Colts secondary. He does what he needs to do as a back-up but nothing more. IF we keep him around next year I hope its at a extremely discounted rate or he needs to look elsewhere. I’d rather that money go to resigning Babin or Moss… hopefully.
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He simply cannot throw a deep ball any longer
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this is funny b/c longer can mean time or distance....both are applicable
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by DonFrancisco on Dec 20, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Resign Babin, Moss won't be back.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
My Christmas hope is geared towards the faint, faint playoff hopes.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'll pass on the slim-to-none playoff hopes
In exchange for a decent draft pick and not giving Fisher anymore reason to stick around.
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Noboy is getting fooled
Every year about 62 QBs make a lot of money not leading a team to the Super Bowl. If he can still be an effective back-up, then why shouldn’t he pursue it and take the money?
Nobody out there is going to sign Kerry Collins then start talking about Super Bowls.
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He should take the money
if a team is stupid enough to pay it. All i am saying is $15 mill for two years is steep for Collins. And every player signed whether a starter or depth player is signed to increase your chances at competing for a super bowl.
by memphisbleek on Dec 20, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
well of course he's getting paid to much right now
that was coming off of a 13 win season when Fisher wanted a sliver of stability for the team to fall back on should VY flip-out again…
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On the contrary, I think
Fisher saw Kerry and probally still does….as the guy that can lead a team to the SB. Hence, the big contract and the ‘best chance to win’ crap he feeds the media after unexplainalbe losing streaks.
by memphisbleek on Dec 20, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Fisher says any player who's starting gives the team the best chance to win
because that’s what all coaches say.
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True......but,
Kerry went on 2 four or more losing streaks and the owner has to force a change. Vince has 3 bad sub-par quarters and he’s benched. So, true he says that about everybody but he means it when it comes to KC vs VY.
by memphisbleek on Dec 20, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
"that was coming off of a 13 win season when Fisher wanted a sliver of stability for the team to fall back on should VY flip-out again…"
I’m guessing Fisher was planning on playing Collins and ending the VY era at that point, until 0-6 and then Bud Adams got in the way.
he knew VY would get another shot
but that doesn’t Fisher wanted to start that anytime soon…
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I just wish I understood Fishers thought process
about the whole Collins thing. I really believe Fisher thinks Collin’s Brett Farve Version 2 and he’s some “gunslinger” that pulls wins out of his ass. LITERALLY everything has to go the Titans way for Collins to get a win. You saw it yesterday, Collins and the Titans get a massive lead in the beginning half of the game and then slowly things started to come apart again and the Texans started creeping back.
BS that Collins give you the best chance to win. I don’t envision him as a leader or field general, he just seems like a dude out there just doing his job.
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LITERALLY everything has to go the Titans way for Collins to get a win. You saw it yesterday, Collins and the Titans get a massive lead in the beginning half of the game and then slowly things started to come apart again and the Texans started creeping ba
That is crazy, and just because you are a Voldemort backer does not mean you need to trash Collins for leading the team to an awesome victory. He played really well with the exception that his deep ball is lacking some arm strength. Collins doesn’t whine about not playing nor does the coach have to be beg him to return to the game because the fans didn’t like his play as in 2008 Collins also doesn’t behave like a freaking maniac by cussing out the head coach for not getting his selfish way. Voldemort is incredibly selfish.
I wasn't saying anything about The Nameless
I was just asking why Fisher thinks Collins ever gives us the best chance to win? and I wouldn’t say Collin’s “lead” us to an awesome victory. CJ had a pretty damn good day, Babin was a beast, and ATV had a big time interception.
Chillax on pluggin’ in the The Nameless bashing and read the question I was asking.
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Honestly
we all know it’s because Vince Young doesn’t behave like a professional, shows zero toughness and has quit on his team before.
We can all disagree about Fisher’s reaction/over-reaction to those points, but they’re the whole reason for this schism.
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It's true
Kinda sucks being a die hard fan of a team but then having to chose which side of the team you are on… damn them BOTH for doing this.
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I'm not picking sides
But too many players speak well of Fisher. There aren’t too many ex-Titans that go “oh geez that guy was an a**” after they leave.
So I don’t buy the evil Fish theory. I think he’s just super old school, and he doesn’t like high maintenance players, for the most part. Pacman he gave an awful lot of rope, but I think that was because he was Fisher’s choice and Fisher’s “project”. He’s just not the right kind of coach to help you know who out of the baby phase and into the professional adult phase. Maybe he’d have tried harder if it had been his choice, not sure, but that’s my take.
He just got that money because of Kurt Warner's deal
I’m not saying that was logical, btw
I think we consistently underrate
player abilities as fans. With a few exceptions (some corner-backs of recent years).
Crumpler is a pretty good blocker, and I don’t think just any old free agent TE would have the same skill. It doesn’t just require a big body. You probably actually need to know where to go as well. He’s helped NE a heap this year.
I like Cook, but sure hope we have a TE in the stable or acquire one that can block the crap out of people.
Crumpler was great and was a big reason for CJ's 2000 yard season
I was really sad to see him go. He had the body/power of an O-guard and could still get open for that big of a dude. I was really hoping he was going to stick around and teach Cookie somethings… but I forgot this is the Titans and we only let the good veterans walk.
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i just don't understand why cook has to block
just make him a WR and get someone else to block. position doesn’t have to be determined by some height/weight formula. just throw him the ball. he’s way, way too big for a typical corner to cover. i don’t understand why we can’t just do the obvious. if he’s better as a receiver than as a blocker, then PLAY HIM AS A RECEIVER
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I love the thought of Cookie as a functional TE
he’s blocking has improved and hopefully after another offseason it will improve even further. I don’t think he will ever be an elite blocker but as long as he’s making progress that’s all that matters.
My ideal offense would be: WR1-Britt Wr2-Moss(hopefully) Slot- Washington TE1-Cookie TE2- Stevens (or another good blocking TE) RB1- CJ(obviously) RB2- Bount type of running back QB- a headstrong VY and a head coach/offensive coordinator that can design plays to utilize the talent on the field!!!
Ahhhh please make my Christmas wish come true Santa!
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Oh yeah
totally agree there. Play into the strengths of your guys. I’d just like them to make sure that they have another TE who’s a mondo blocker more than a receiver. Not sure if Stevens is that guy, or that it would b so trivial to pick such a guy up in FA. I like having a grab bag of skills at TE for various situations. Same reason I like different types of RBs available.
by numbertenox on Dec 21, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Does anyone know what that silly looking dance Hands was doing when he scored is?
He looked like he was trying to start a weedeater
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I wondered that myself.
I know if it was me playing on Sundays, I would plan what kind TD dance I would do. Thats probably just because I’m a tool though. However, I must not be the only tool in this world, and I think most plan some type of TD celebration.
So with that said, what was Nate thinking?? He could have at least tried to Dougie, Sprinkler, or something even remotely recognizable. Maybe hes trying to start some new dance craze.
I thought
it was an ultra-effeminate version of riding a bronco, but maybe I was wrong.
by numbertenox on Dec 21, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
A reason that makes sense please
Why can’t the Titans throw some passes to Randy Moss? Why can’t Moss and Britt be on the field at the same time? Please somebody, anybody make some sense out of this if there is any way it makes sense. If it is just nonsense then I’ll quit trying to make sense out of it. Thank you.
Garret
what if cowboys drop garrret and pick up a gruden or something ,,,,,,,,,, then we pick garret !!!
What about D McNabb
could he be a good option to stop the bleeding for a year while we groom a 1st round QB
Based on recent events, no.
I know Washington is just a completely dysfunctional organization and it may not be fair to judge him based on that. However, the team that originally drafted him and kept him for ten years felt comfortable trading him to a division rival for a 2nd rounder, and his new team has him as the third QB. That has to tell us something about him right?
I’d rather get someone like Carson Palmer on a modest two-year deal, change of scenery could be great for him.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Fisher has a love affair with USC players.
Otherwise why wasn’t Taylor Mays drafted by this team? (USC) Mike Williams still not here? LenDale White was unceremoniously dumped, as was Norm Chow. Could’ve drafted and/or signed any number of USC guys over the years, haven’t. Guess what school has been drafted from frequently though?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Did any of you watch Palmer play this year?
He looks absolutely terrible!
Very close to the same
It would not be that much of an improvement. Look at the stats. Again, did you watch Palmer play this year?
How about we keep he who shall not be named
and watch a repeat of this year next year, only this time, we get a younger more sober and athletic kerry collins?
by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 20, 2010 8:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I can settle for a kerry collins who can throw 40+ yards at this point, haha.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 20, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
About CJ...
With the season he’s putting together to follow up his 2000 yard performance, he’s putting himself up there with the best that have ever played the game, if he keeps it up. Barry Sanders followed up 2000 yards with a very good season, then retired. He’s the only one. CJ has a lot of years left in him, hopefully. I was surprised when I realized how good of a year he was having, because it seems like he’s been bottled up all year, but I think I’m just spoiled like the rest of you guys.
That said, during the game and during this season, I have caught myself saying “CJ would have taken that to the house, last year.” So that would imply that I seem to think he’s lost his “5th gear,” too. He’s still fast, but at times, it has looked like he’s not the guy that was absolutely untouchable, speed wise.
I still think that maybe he’s been hurt this year. I look forward to seeing if he gets back his “5th gear” next season, when he’s had an off season to heal up.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 20, 2010 8:23 PM CST reply actions
Maybe that has something to do with the them turning him into an everydown back?
Last year he had Cheeseburger White to take some of the short yardage carries and a lot of wear and tear off CJ’s wheels. Now it seems they only use Ringer when CJ says he needs a breather, which is rarely ever, because CJ is a Mega-badass.
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Well, he hasn't really been splitting carries since his rookie year, though.
Last year, Lendale didn’t really see the field.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 20, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Still he took most of the short yard stuff which takes a huge toll on RBs
I gotta say… I kinda miss Cheeseburger White.
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Well, he really didn't, though.
He practically didn’t play. He had 64 carries all year. Compare that to Ringer’s 50 carries with 2 games to go.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 20, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Vince Young and Jeff Fisher are like two girls on a high school dance team.
Two girls that are always not talking to each other. Always. That’s what teenage girls do.
Vince Young and Jeff Fisher, the most public faces on a billion dollar franchise, have turned into teenage girls during this feud. And no one has any idea how to resolve it.
How pathetic is this? When was the last time that two famous heterosexual men wouldn’t talk to each other? I can’t even remember this ever happening in my own life. Ever. Not even in high school or middle school.
Can you remember it happening in your own life?
Imagine if at your job two grown men, presumably heterosexual, suddenly stopped speaking.
Would you even know how to moderate this? I’d be worthless.
Titans owner Bud Adams is an 87-year-old oil man. When people in the oil business don’t agree, they beat the crap out of each other and eventually get over it. He has to be at his wit’s end over this feud. It’s like you asked him to plan a Sweet 16 party and the invitations went out to the wrong girls.
for those Friday Night Lights viewers out there
it’s like Lyla and Tyra!
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Voodoo and Coach Taylor?
Season 1 flashback there…wasn’t that pretty much an echo of what has happened here?
Or Smash and Coach, really any number of guys who have crossed Coach Taylor.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
EXACTLY
well, from what I can tell Smash and coach end up being cool after the whole coach Mac thing cleared up after he basically saved his ass from the fuzz. that’s the last episode I finished though so don’t ruin it for me
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
wait that's weird
he threw his pads and everything…
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by danielreese05 on Dec 20, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Art imitating life.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 21, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
A limited number of things you can throw into the stands in disgust / anger
Helmets, pads, a ball. What else?
I guess if you really wanted to make an impact, you could hurl a bench up into the stands. Or the giant gatorade thing. Or a cheerleader.
how about a steakhouse?
"hey, quit reading these ridiculous words of wisdom and get back to work!"
by stetix01 on Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Or brisket
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Catching a brisket would actually be pretty cool.
Or maybe I’m just hungry.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 21, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
i'd love to cath a brisket!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 21, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
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