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Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Opportunities Abound Edition

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 Earlier in the week I wrote about this being a chance for vengeance, and at least one Titan agrees with that sentiment: Sen'Derrick Marks. Marks could be in the middle of a break-out end to the season with the loss of Tony Brown, but instead he's probably going to be hobbled thanks to a few cut blocks thrown by the Texans. Marks is ready to get some revenge on the field Sunday, and hopefully we can expect a big effort from the 2009 second round pick.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Fernando Velasco is happy to be starting, but has a sad that it came at the expense of Eugene Amano. If Velasco balls out the rest of the way, you could see Amano move back to guard next year, bumping Harris back to the bench.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Newly-signed DT Malcolm Sheppard was a beast at Arkansas last year, but hasn't gotten a chance to prove what he can do in the NFL. There's a very good chance he is active on Sunday, so hopefully he can be our payback for letting Antonio Johnson be signed off of our practice squad by the Colts. But hey, at least we kept Donnie Nickey.

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 Chris Johnson was named one of the best game breakers of the 2000's by a Yahoo! contributor.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Earlier in the week it was Bo Scaife, and now Chris Johnson is hinting at a possible schism in the locker room:

"I know guys on this team are still behind him and support him."

—RB Chris Johnson on whether deposed QB Vince Young still has support in the locker room.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Darren McFarland previews Sunday's game.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 While all of the focus from the outside may be on the fight between Cortland Finnegan and Andre Johnson, Finny should be focused on winning the battle before the whistle blows.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 And finally, a little bulletin board material:

HOUSTON (AP)—Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub is having a little fun at the expense of teammate Andre Johnson, placing a life-size cardboard cutout of Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa from the movie "Rocky" at the receiver’s locker.

 

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You sure do make it hard not to talk about Voldemort

This schism though is really bad for the team.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

That's because the players want to win and VY gives them the best chance

They probably also empathize with VY having seen how Fish treats him…

by dragak1981 on Dec 17, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I will attempt not to bring up old arguments here, but I will say

You should go ask Kevin Mawae how he feels about our QB.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

no longer on the team

it’s kind of irrelevant what he thinks at this point.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.

by danielreese05 on Dec 17, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I find it hard to believe that Mawae, a former Titans leader in the locker room for several years

is the only Titans player having those thoughts.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

This divided in locker room is relevant news in the world of the Titans

there for should be brought up. It’s become bigger then just what’s going on with The Nameless and Fisher.
And Mawae isn’t on the team anymore, so I don’t expect for him to know whats going on in the locker room this season, there for I don’t consider his opinion of the situation all too relevant. Me thinks he’s a little bitter for not being picked up anywho…

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

some of these dudes on here just can't stand VY...

That’s the bottom line…and also, no one that comments here knows everything about the situation in the locker room or front office…it gets to be little annoying to read supposed absolutes from people who have nothing more than their own opinion to go off of

by dragak1981 on Dec 17, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I’m just a hater.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He is no longer on the team and is not part of the current locker room

Current players know much more about the situation than does Kevin Mawae…so I am much more interested to hear what CJ or Bo Scaife of KB18 have to say…that is up to date info based on current observations…not Kevin Mawae’s opinion from the past

by dragak1981 on Dec 17, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be more interesting in hearing the opinions of some of the well-respected Titan vets

Scaife? Nope. Britt? Nope. CJ? Ya (though I do think his opinion if fairly uneducated).

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

What’s uneducated about playing on the team and being in the locker room, and having your own opinion about what’s going on.
I wouldnt disregard the opinions of the two best players on the team. If strength of opinion is based on success, and not other criteria like gpa or oratory skill

by CarlosLehder on Dec 17, 2010 12:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Since when aren't they well respected Titans?

They are fucking Titans all of their opinions are respected and are directly involved in the situation, as apposed to Mawae who you only agree with because it fuels your own opinion.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

You think I'm agreeing with Mawae solely because it "fuels my own opinion?"

No I’m listening to Mawae because he played for 16 years and I think he’d know a thing or two about QBs, considering he has worked closely with several of them throughout his tenure. Seriously if you’re going to try to paint me with a large hating brush go ahead but keep it to yourself.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Yah, you dont need help

And like was said before…I want to hear what CURRENT Titans have to say on the situation, since they are the only ones in the locker room. Anything anyone else has to say is speculation at best!!! Seems like there is a group in the CURRENT locker room that has VY’s back…and a lot of fans too!

by dragak1981 on Dec 17, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Also as far as Cj and britt goes, they are one of the few bright spots of the titans, and the future success of the team will depend on them, not Kevin mawae who isn’t even here. I

by CarlosLehder on Dec 17, 2010 12:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

do we have well-respected titan vets anymore?

i thought we gave all of them dishonourable discharges

by mattd97 on Dec 17, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

With all due respect...

Scaife is probably He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named’s closest friend on that team, and with the Texas connection is not exactly an impartial observer of events.

I would be most interested to see what someone like Michael Griffin would have to say about this. I know he played at Texas as well, but he doesn’t seem to still be stuck up in all that or running around with all the other Texas guys on the roster. Moss would also be very interesting to hear as an outsider who came in right after all that went down.

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

When Griff was asked about it all he was very much trying to dodge the question

Just saying that’s between Coach and The Nameless. I understand Scaife’s opinion doesn’t hold much water, but I think KBv2 and CJ’s are pretty important. Moss really hasn’t had a whole lot of time to work with The Nameless so I wouldn’t really take that into consideration I guess.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I just meant on the locker room and franchise in general.

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

I think all will be revealed in the offseason. It’s like waiting for the end of LOST…

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

So we won't get all the answers then?

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

BOOM!

God damn it that ending made me want to shoot myself for wasting 6 years of my life….

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually liked the finale itself.

Would’ve been nice to get answers, but they did at least wrap it up with a real ending, unlike this show with some mobsters and a Journey song…

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't care for it

It seemed like it would have been a great ending if they had maybe used the time in the final season to answer some questions we all had. Instead the final season felt almost like a totally different show… I felt like I was on an Indiana Jones ride as apposed to a LOST story.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

The hell with Kevin Mawae.

What he did is so chicken sh*t.

To put it into context, if a local business journal/college paper/trade journal, etc came up to you and asked for a quote about a colleague, would you throw him/her under the bus even if you disliked the guy?

No, you wouldn’t. Because, you, WTF, aren’t a douchebag. Kevin Mawae is. Period.

It’s unprofessional, regardless of his opinion of VY.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Going over the people that have had issues with VY in his career that have spoken out about it:

Keith Bulluck (2008), Jeff Fisher, and Kevin Mawae.

That group consists of some beloved Titans leaders for the past few years. Was Mawae’s comment unproffesional? Probably. But is his opinion neccessarily off-base because of that? I don’t think so.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt what he said was genuine, but he's a year removed from the organization and making statements without all the pertinent information (ie. absent from the locker room this year).

He did this knowing full well that his statements would make headlines. I just think it shows a lot about the guy’s character.

As for Bulluck, he’s tune changed as well. Though, I think that’s what you were saying with the (2008) caveat.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

To elaborate.

I think there’s a hint of irony that Mawae is acting like a child, slinging mud at an old teammate, and at the same time saying that Vince needs to grow up.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not supporting the way he did it.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I know.

I guess what I’m saying is that you should take it for what it’s worth.

What Mawae is saying is genuine in the sense that he means it, but it reeks of an opinion fueled by anger.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would he be mad at coaching/management?

We are down to a practice sqad centers right now and they are the ones writing the paychecks…

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

You missed.

He SHOULD be mad at the coaching staff. He has no reason to be mad at Vince Young. So, why is it that when he speaks of Young its fueled by anger?

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would he be speaking out against a coaching staff/management if he's hoping for a phone call to come back?

Or if he ever wanted another job in the NFL? I’m sure he chose what he wanted to say carefully.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

So his line of reasoning is

That his best chance at signing with a team like the Titans, is to call out the QB who may very well be back next year?

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

No. He was in an interview and chose to call out his former QB

That was his poor choice like Superhorn said. He chose not to call out his former management (which I would guess he has some sour feelings towards, because they chose to go with a less experienced Center over him to which now he doesn’t have a job anywhere) in hopes that one day he might think he has something left over in the tank to play again. No one is going to pick up an over the hill center that’s calling out his former coaching staff + is involved in the NFLPA.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

But right

I really don’t know why I am trying to get into the head of Mawae, really I don’t care. He just shouldn’t have said it.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Tell me again

how calling out Young improves his chances of getting a contract with the Titans?

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares how it improves his chances of getting a contract with the Titans?

I don’t even know if that’s what he’s trying to do. Why are you even running with what i’m saying when I don’t even know what his reasoning is? The Nameless is a controversial QB maybe he just wanted to get a head line. Who cares really?

InVINCEable

by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It may be.

I can’t really answer that question without all the pertinent information. Ie. What are his past conversations with Fisher? Were Fisher’s hands tied because of Mawae’s NFLPA involvement? Does Mawae not want to throw Fisher under the bus because he wants to play again in the NFL?

There is a laundry list of reasons Mawae wouldn’t throw the coaching staff under the bus.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

But

There is not a laundry list of reasons Mawae WOULD throw Young under the bus. What would be his motive? He’s certainly not going to be back on the Titans, and that was evident before these comments- so its not like he’s using these comments to leverage into a contract. What anger is he channeling towards Young, and if the anger is there, is there a plausible reason WHY he’s speaking out? Frankly from what I know, he doesn’t have a reason to ‘get at Vince’ which makes these comments quite relevant.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

What are you getting at here?

I don’t know how this has digressed into some sort of psycho-analysis of Mawae’s motives. Whatever they were, it doesn’t change the fact that I think he should have kept his mouth shut, much like I would keep my mouth shut about former co workers I may have issue with if pressed by a local business rag.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

From your above comment:
What Mawae is saying is genuine in the sense that he means it, but it reeks of an opinion fueled by anger.

Mawae’s opinion of Young cannot reek of being ‘fueled by anger’ if there is nothing to fuel the anger towards Young in the first place. He has no reason to be angry at VY, yet somehow his comments are viewed as an attempt to attack him. Therefore, it is likely his comments are not fueled by anger.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Lord. This is turning into a rothbard argument.

Who cares? What point are you trying to make?

You have already agreed that what he said was unprofessional. Can we just leave it at that?

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I just proved your logic wrong.

Who cares? Me.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I realize that may come off as condescending, for that I apologize.

the point being that your logic was faulty but somehow, suddenly, the details are insignificant.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't speak for SuperHorn,

but I certainly was wincing at that last comment. Yikes! ;-)

by Titans_Girl on Dec 17, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

With all due respect is that not a typical response by VY supporters?

Player X opposes VY? Player X must be out to get him.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

This isn't me supporting Vince.

What Vince did was wrong. None of this changes that.

Kevin Mawae is acting unprofessional AND Vince acted like a child this season.

Those two sentiments are not mutually exclusive of eachother.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

But you're still not seeing my point.

Why is it that any player opposing Vince Young clearly has a personal agenda and is taking it out on Young with their comments?

At some point, you have to recognize these players may be right.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt. I said above ( or maybe it was below) that he may be right.

I just have a hard time thinking that a former teammate would come out and say this about someone if they liked them. Do you disagree that it seems unlikely that Mawae would say this AND like Vince young?

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

Mawae never said anything about him while we was playing with him for the past 3 years. Never said there was a problem prior to this. So why does he chose now to air the dirty laundry?

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not disagree.

However, that’s the way it is with players. See Scaife, Bo. But when Kevin Mawae’s opinion carries a lot of weight, whether you like that or not.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It could just be that...

Player X has had a much better vantage point than anyone here has. shrugs But when you’re a fan…it’s hard to take the blinders off. And I’m including myself in that fan mentality(though not about Voldemort).

by Titans_Girl on Dec 17, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You know with this kind of rational thinking you're going to start a lot of arguments
It could just be that Player X has had a much better vantage point than anyone here has.

Rec’d

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait a second here....

This whole year we bash Fisher for not bringing back Mawae, we love him, we miss him, we need him. He’s a leader in the locker room, we screamed. He speaks out against Vince Young, and now we hate him.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong...no one hates Mawae

The argument is simply that his input in the current situation is just his opinion based on PAST experiences…we are concerned with what CURRENT players have to say on the CURRENT situation

by dragak1981 on Dec 17, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

We?

I can only speak for my self.

And, this opinion is only based on new information. How is that any different from you changing your opinion of VY based on new information you have?

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

My opinion of Vince Young changed as a result of several incidents this past year.

I’m not sure Kevin Mawae stating his opinion warrants such a reversal. Its not like it changed the fact that he was a leader on this team last year. I know he isn’t on the team now, but its likely that he has plenty of friends still on this roster.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me put it this way.

Just like you and I wouldn’t want Vince quarterbacking this team if he continues to act the way he has this year, I also don’t want a guy that’s going to throw his teammates under the bus. That’s not what leaders do.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps that's why we're hearing about this now rather than last year?

As a leader on this team last year, he kept his mouth shut.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

OK.

Doesn’t make it much better in my eyes.

Again, no one in their right mind is going to verbally bash coworkers while at a company, and only a vendictive douchebag would throw a co worker under the bus in print after he left a company. It’s just not what successful, productive members of society do.

He has every right to do what he did. There may be some truth to it. The point I’m making here is that I’m disappointed by his actions, regardless of his history with our former quarterback.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct

If he didn’t care for The Nameless he would have just not commented on him, but what he did was was throw his old starting QB under the bus for no reason other then to get his name in the headlines. No one cares about what Mawae has to say anymore and why should we? If he wants to talk about the “good ol’ days” of riding CJs fame into a 2000 yard season, awesome, but what does his opinion have to do with what’s going on this season in a locker room he is not involved in?

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I missed the part where he rode CJ's fame.

From where I stand it looks like he was a large piece of that fame.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Your missing the point

I.Don’t.Care. what he has to say about the locker room he is not involved in.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's funny to mention the word "vengence" when talking about these NFL games.

The only place that happens is in the minds of the fans. As long as they get their paychecks…it’s all good. That’s the only thing they care about.

by titansfan4ever on Dec 17, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

I completely agree that Mawae shouldn't have spoken up about "you know who"...

since he doesn’t play for the Titans (or anyone else) this year. However, we don’t really KNOW how non-current his information is. It’s completely conceivable that some of the current players are still in touch with him (a former teammate and current NFLPA President) and are sharing their feelings/concerns with him on the subject. Just throwing that out there.

Discuss.

by Titans_Girl on Dec 17, 2010 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

Ding, ding

We have a winner,

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

That very well may be true.

But, it still doesn’t make what he did right. Nothing productive came of him making those comments. It was only for his own satisfaction.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, I will bet yes

It will probably decrease Scaife’s playing time.

That would be productive.

Official MCM Hater!

by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Zing!

We can only hope…Cook all the way the rest of the season.

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

they are the ones talking about the apparent divide in the locker room. I’d say that’s pretty relevant to the future of the Titan’s

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't take issue with them supporting a teammate.

They probably shouldn’t have said anything about a divided locker room…

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh as a fan I want to know this though

Especially when these last few weeks will decide if Fisher and crew are staying or going.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends on what you mean by productive I guess

If by productive you mean where the future of the Titans will be then yes I think it’s productive, by productive you mean helping them win games this year… then no, not at all. I am not trying to argue I am just seeing both side of it

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't this essentially mean the players are in control?

Regardless of feelings on Fisher and this coaching staff, the head coach is the top dog. I don’t want a locker room where the players are mouthing off and have the attitude of “We’re in charge.” That just leads to being the Bungles, Raiders and Cowboys.

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's unfortunately where the locker room has gone

and that should be a reflection of what is going on with the coaching staff.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

So it’s OK for somebody to support VY but not bash him to the press?

As a fan, I want to know that his center thought he was an idiot.

Official MCM Hater!

by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

There is a double standard when it comes to Young, and deals with his fans.

When somebody publicly supports him, that player is praised. When somebody publicly opposes him, that player’s view is immediately discounted.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I respect CJ and Scaife’s opinion because they are in the locker room, I don’t respect an old center that is no longer in the situation opinion because it’s not relevant to whats going on this year. I think that’s pretty easy to understand.
If there we other people coming out saying how terrible of a human he is that are in the locker, fine… but where are they?

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

They

are the ones mentioned in the reports by Jay Glazer and Michael Lombardi on the Titans players who have doubts about Young.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

We have to realize that the locker room is just exactly like Music City Miracles

You have 4 different groups:

1. The players who want Fisher to stay and Young gone

2. The players who want Young to stay and Fisher gone

3. The players who want them both gone

4. The players who want both to stay

And I guarantee that Kevin Mawae is much more connected to that locker room than you think he is.

Official MCM Hater!

by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I am not saying his opinion isn't a relevant opinion

And it may very well be true, but he is not involved in what is going on. He is not in that locker room bottom line.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

you know how you keep crying because ppl call you a hater?

stop assuming that anyone who disagrees with your point of view is a young fan. youre incredibly arrogant and hypocritical

by mattd97 on Dec 17, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This is what he does when backed into a wall

I guess it’s the Endgame comeback for him when his argument goes no where as they tend to do.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

A veteran, probably HoF center, at that.

Centers read defenses, too. They’d likely know better than most other players if their QB made poor decisions based on their own reads of the defense.

by Titans_Girl on Dec 17, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Nickey

I know you guys can’t stand him, but at least he’s doing his job on the field. You should probably aim at one of the non-performers, because there’s a bunch of them.

by WX_Man on Dec 17, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

4 tackles

all year

4.

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by August West on Dec 17, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

And that's just playing special teams right?

Shaw and Bailey have been beasts on ST compared to the special teams captain.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

They have been the Legion of Doom this year

I’d like to think they see themselves as that anyway…

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny we're talking about this today

Jonathan Hutton just tweeted:

Vy in locker room. #Titans

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by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2010 1:29 PM CST reply actions  

Could it be a political move?

Trying to curry favor with those guys who are on the fence about the coaching staff and him, and perhaps trying to help out Bud make his decision? Still not sure how I feel about this one, even though Fisher said he was surprised he wasn’t there…I just don’t see how him being in the locker room at this point helps anything.

I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. And there's this awesome Chris Johnson Fathead over the wood paneling. Seriously, it's kind of a big deal...

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

He is still technically a Titan, but I’d prefer he not socialize with the guys.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

FWIW

Fisher has said publicly that he’s welcome in the locker room.

by SuperHorn on Dec 17, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I know.

I disagree with Fisher on this. Young is a polarizing figure, and I don’t think our locker room needs to get even more split up.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 17, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

^ This.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think a franchise QB should be in the locker room regardless

It is about time he showed up. That’s one thing that hasn’t sat well with me.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If there really is a split in the locker room

then I’m not sure how him being there is going to help. Maybe if he brought coffee and donughts for everyone. That always brings a smile here at the office.

by Gas-House Gorilla on Dec 17, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just saying from franchise QB point of view. Assuming none of this BS wasn't going on

That he should be there. You can sure as shit bet Pey-Pey would be there even if he was on IR.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent point

Must be nice hanging out in Texas while your teammates are getting hammered every week.

The least he could do is show up and stand there on the sideline….or at least be in the stadium.

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by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

Again, who knows whats going on behind the scenes, but it never sat well with me that the starting QB wasn’t there. A great QB is there in the good time and the bad regardless. <<<< That is what is going to make his team respect him.

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by StPrattrick on Dec 17, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a shame he's still having to earn it.

You’d think for someone who just wins, he would’ve already won everyone’s respect on the team by now.

by J3G77 on Dec 17, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

FIsher said the locker room was better with Vince gone. I dont think Vince wanted to be called a distraction by being around too much. Was Tom Brady around when he was on IR and Matt Cassell was the starter and playing well?

by titansfan7 on Dec 17, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

theyre saying

he was there to let the trainers look at his thumb, they said he was hugging the players and declined any comments before heading into the training room.

by channelXlurker on Dec 17, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

i refuse to give into the temptation that is breaking the moratiorium

The he who shall not be named topic is getting a little stale for me

by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 17, 2010 1:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

And it's only going to get worse.

Once the offseason hits and decisions have to be and are made…I can only imagine what’s going to be said here.

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