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Randy Moss is hurting the team!


I thought I would take a moment to detour from all of the Vince vs Fisher fiasco of the afternoon.  It seemed as if the our passing game has been struggling the last couple of weeks which happens to coincide with the acquisition of Randy Moss.  It is not so much the completion percentage I am referring to but our offense has felt as if it lacked the spark that carried it through most of the first part of the season.  

The thought with the Moss deal was that it would help out our passing game by having Moss draw double coverage opening things up for Nate Washington, and it would help the running game by forcing the defense to cover the pass drawing out defenders from the box.

Here are some passing and rushing statistics from before and after Randy Moss.  (Rusty's stats are not included)

Game              Yards/Completion (VY and KC)            Yards/Run (CJ only)

1 Raiders          11.8                                                          5.26

2 Steelers         9.0                                                            2.12

3 Giants             11.8                                                          3.91

Broncos         10.2                                                          2.79

Cowboys        14.4                                                         6.89

6 Jags                12.2                                                         4.2

Eagles             16.2                                                         2.75

Chargers        16.9                                                         3.93

Pre-MossAve:    12.68                                                      4.05

 

10 Dolphins         7.9                                                        6.8

11 Redskins       13.75                                                      6.2

Post-MossAve:    10.2    20% decrease                              6.5    49% increase

 

Although this does not prove a correlation, I believe these stats are directly caused by the addition of Randy Moss.  He has undoubtedly helped Chris Johnson, and if he was part of the team from the beginning of the season, CJ may very well have had another 2000 yard season.  

However, what was not expected, is Moss negatively impacting the passing game.  This is not proof of that correlation but after thinking about it, it makes sense.  Moss has caused opposing defenses to not sell out to stop the run.  Defenses stacking the box has actually helped our passing game early in the season.  The Titans used CJ to setup the play-action deep ball, but Moss causes defenses to specifically cover the deep ball.  End result, he has actually hurt the very thing he was brought here to help.  Our passing game works when we do not have a wide receiver that other teams respect.

The boost Moss has given CJ is not enough to offset the harm that has been done to the passing game.  We cannot score enough points with CJ alone to offset our poor defensive play.

It's possible that this is just an anomaly or that Kenny Britt is really just that good.  What does everyone else think? 

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Or that has to do with the fact

that Kerry Collins couldn’t throw the football last week, and this week’s game included a quarter of Rusty Smith.

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by Jimmy on Nov 21, 2010 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't include Rusty Smith and

I also originally had VY’s and KC’s stats separated. It doesn’t matter. Either way VY’s post-Moss stats are worse and so are KC’s.

by eawee on Nov 21, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And maybe one QB plays worse just by chance alone,

but what are the odds that both QB’s play worse on average thus far?

by eawee on Nov 21, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

If you separate them,

VY’s pre-Moss average is actually higher also- so it balances out.

by eawee on Nov 21, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

at least Rusty tries to throw it to Moss

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by rothbard on Nov 21, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

No it's not but...

CJ’s stats are so clearly better, that I feel fairly confident that Moss has in fact benefited him. If Moss has had an impact on CJ, then it is reasonable to assume that he may have had an effect on passing. Now that the whole VY Fisher fiasco has occurred, we will never know for sure.

by eawee on Nov 21, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Rusty tried getting it to Moss

Moss has opened running lanes for CJ, but we haven’t won a game with Moss yet … Bet he wishes he wouldn’t have opened his mouth while still in NE …

by 12thTitan on Nov 21, 2010 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Have you not considered

that “addition of Moss” directly coincides with “injury to Britt”?

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by rothbard on Nov 21, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Yes I did hence

“It’s possible that this is just an anomaly or that Kenny Britt is really just that good.”

by eawee on Nov 21, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

.

yes, the first game’s average aganst Miami was down but Moss wasn’t even looked at. How is that his fault, but yet the game against Washington was above average.

2 games is never enough to start talking about averages. Stop trying to find reasons to blame somebody that’s not at fualt

by Oilersborn on Nov 21, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I have caused confusion by lumping KC and VY together.

I did this to try to simplify the results to look at averages. If you look at their individual performances you will see:
Vince pre-Moss: 13.8 ypa
Vince post-Moss: 12.2 ypa
KC pre-Moss: 11.1 ypa
KC post-Moss: 5.7 ypa

I would think the deep pass would have been easier against the Redskins by watching MNF.

by eawee on Nov 22, 2010 5:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you watch Sunday Afternoon Football

and see that they never threw to him?

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by rothbard on Nov 22, 2010 7:36 AM CST up reply actions  

As rothbard said...

Your result is wrong. The addition of Moss isn’t hurting the passing game, it’s the subtraction of Britt. Moss is talented – but he doesn’t know the playbook as well as any of the other WRs.

It’s just coincidence.

by oilertitan on Nov 21, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions  

Moss isn't hurting the team....

He has only been targetted 8 times in the last two games. Coach Fisher admitted VY not looking for Randy yesterday in his post game presser. The Rookie comes in cold and throw a pass to the play maker. Now it was a BS penalty on the play but that is what we got him for in that type of situation. With the change a little more time is still needed.

by jmkiii58 on Nov 22, 2010 7:44 AM CST reply actions  

a BS penalty?

you really think so? We’re all good fans here, but come on now, he clearly pushed off HARD on the corner.

by F1 Titan on Nov 22, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

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