Better Know the Jacksonville Jaguars: Ask Big Cat Country
by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 8:34 PM CDT
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I'm John, one of the editors at SBN's Jaguar site Big Cat Country. The Titans travel to Florida to take on the Jags on MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL! If you have any questions about the game or on the Jags in general feel free to ask. I know we're division rivals, but keep it clean. I'm not everyone's favorite Colts blogger.
Also, if you wouldn't mind, please rec this so it can stay at the top of the fanposts. Thanks!
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Seats
Gonna be filled for a Monday night game? Tarps or no?
by danomite on Oct 11, 2010 8:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Looks like
EVerbank Field will be rockin’. Against the Clts it was full house until the end.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent.
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As of right now, 4,000 tickets remain but they’ll be sold out.
The tarps are there long term. Without the tarps, Everbank FIeld is the 7th largest stadium in the league. After the “new car smell” wore off and the team went into salary cap hell it was obvious something had to be done.
In 2009, it was a perfect storm of double digit unemployment and a jaded fanbase. So far, Jags have had 5 home games (including preseason) and all 5 have been on TV.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Offensive Line
How are they in run blocking and pass portection?
who or where are the strong points and the weak points of your O-line?
O-line is looking good. The pass protection won’t look good on paper, but most of that comes from the Philly game. The line had Freeney and Mathis put up a goose egg for sacks. Run blocking is solid. Not quite on par with the road grading the Jags did in 07, but not as bad as it was at times last year.
The two tackles from 09 are working out nicely. Monroe has the look of an Pro Bowler, while Eben Britton is a solid starter. The interior is suspect at times, so that is a major concern.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
What's up with Simms-Walker?
One week he’s lighting it up the next he’s shutout.
I'm no super-genius... or are I?
In week 1
He was against Champ Bailey
In Week 4 Garrard was after 2 really bad games; and OC Koetter decided to go with short passes. David 2-3 times missed him when he was wide open.
He’ll fine.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, that one’s on Garrard. You rewatch games, MSW will be open but DG just won’t pull the trigger. After Garrard’s meltdown’s vs SD and Philly, the offense was changed to a whole lot of short stuff. Mike Thomas is the perfect receiver for that.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything up with MSW trade rumors?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 11, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
A big pile of bull.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
How has Alualu been?
I laughed at the pick when it first happened, but it feels like I’ve heard good stuff about him
My remaining fellow JaMarcus Russell fans, please stand up..
He has 1,5 sacks
Good against the run; he is contributing quite good. His big test will be next week against the Titans O-line.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good.
The Jags took so much heat for that pick, but if he’s the guy that’s gonna fit your system, then he’s the guy you take. I mean, the Titans took crap for taking CJ in the 1st, but you never hear about THAT anymore.
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MJD has been dinged up the past few games
And Jennings missed the last one with an injury. Are you concerned about the injuries, considering the amount of touches Karim got? Though he did have good production, its clearly MJD >>Jennings>Karim.
I asked because I just released Jennings from my fantasy team thinking MJD hasn’t had any durability issues.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 11, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
MJD’s had an ankle that’s been bothering him for awhile. But he’s the kind of guy that you’ll have to take him off the field in a stretcher for him to not play. Karim is an interesting guy. He’s a heck of a kick off guy, he’ll continue to get looks as a RB as well.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm concerned
about MJD. He seems get every 2 weeks a new injury. He don’t had a A+ game yet; but he peforms really well in primetime games….
Jenning is impoving bad he is banged up now, I hope he can play this week.
Deji? He will be a monster in kickreturns. As an RB we will see. Bills are dead last in the leahue against the run. If he plays in MNF we will see what he is capable.of
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh I love Bedazzler week.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
And I love the Tits week- just joking of course no offense.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
All in good fun
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 11, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Tits too
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by gramsey712 on Oct 12, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
umm....
How has the special teams been on returning, covering and field goals and field goals protection?
Special teams is Jax’s best unit.
Deji had over 150 yards on kickoff returns last week. Kick coverage has been solid.
Josh Scobee is a perfect 10/10, only one FG has been less than 40 yards
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The AFC Pro Bowl
special team selection(osgood) and 1st alternative(Owens) are now in the same team….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And that team is the Jags
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Defense- secondary
BY far.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
loved it when you beat the colts on that long field goal
reminded me of when baronis did the same thing to them a couple years back. never gets old
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by stetix01 on Oct 11, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah we liked that too.
Scobee is money this year!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think if the Jags are drafting in the top 16
They will choose a quarterback this year? I’m guessing the top two cornerbacks (Patrick Peterson, Prince Amukamara) will be gone by pick 8. So would they go with a QB?
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That’s what I can say.
QB; CB; DE all could be Gene’s choice next year. A QB will come in the 1-3 (probably 1st or 2nd) round though.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 11, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
The Jaguars are going to draft a QB early
There’s very little doubt in that. Whether it’s the first pick or later, I don’t know. Ideal situation would be a good player like Peterson or Amukamara dropping to the Jaguars and the Jags then trading up into the early 2nd/back half of the 1st to take a QB. Foles is my favorite.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 11, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Foles and Luck are my favorites
When would Andy Dalton of TCU get taken?
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David Garrard finish the season as the starting Qb?
i would like multiple answers.
and if he doesn’t who do yalll think will?
I think he does
And that’s coming from someone who is nowhere near a fan. The reason being, there’s no plan B. Trent Edwards is the only backup and he still has to learn the playbook. Even when he does, he’s probably no more serviceable than Garrard. Garrard will finish this season and be gone.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 11, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised by all the Garrard-hate.
Wasn’t it like 2 years ago he was in the Playoffs going throw-for-throw with Tom Brady? What happened?
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Yeah, The only reason I said that was beacause...
…..My cousin is an avid Jags fan as I am an Avid Titans fan.
And he has said that the problems with the Jags O-line, and how Garrard has been performing because of it that either he’ll be heavely injured by the end of the season or he’ll be benched for Trent Edwards by the end of the season
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 12, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s the thing, you don’t know which DG you’ll get week to week. He’s had games where he’ll go throw for throw with Brady or Peyton Manning, and then the next week he’ll go 12-29 with 3 INTs
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 12, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
To expand on that here's David Garrard's passer ratings this season
Passer Ratings in the wins: 138.9, 127.7, 122.5
Passer Ratings in the losses: 62.7, 38.9
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Yes but i doubt next season
I mean David Garrard>Trent Edwards
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Also, if you would...
in what aspects in the game do you think each team will win {If you could just copy and paste this chart and fill in the winner in each category, only if you have time, you don’t have to if you don’t want to} ie;
Pass Offense -
Pass Defense -
Rush Offense -
Rush Defense -
O-line Pass Blocking -
O-line Run Blocking -
D-line Run/Pass Penetration -
D-line Pass Rush -
Least Fumbles -
Least Interceptions -
Least Sacks -
Special teams (fg,pat) -
Special teams Kick Coverage -
Special teams Kick Returns -
Special teams Punt Coverage -
Special teams Punt Returns -
Most Penalties (5yrds) [offsides, false start, etc] –
Most Penalties (10yrds) [Holding, Hands to face] –
Most Penalties (15yrds) [Personal Fouls] –
Most Penalties (Variable) [Pass interference] -
That is a big chart.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 11, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
you must be pumped for the game
haha, well we all are. 7 days!
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Well this kind of contradicts itself early
So instead of saying who will win, I’ll just put who I think has the better unit.
Pass Offense – Jaguars
Pass Defense – Titans
Rush Offense – Titans
Rush Defense – Titans
O-line Pass Blocking – Jaguars
O-line Run Blocking – Titans
D-line Run/Pass Penetration – Titans
D-line Pass Rush – Titans
Least Fumbles – Jaguars
Least Interceptions – Jaguars
Least Sacks – Titans (I interpreted this as sacks given up)
Special teams (fg,pat) – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Returns – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Returns – Jaguars
Most Penalties (5yrds) [offsides, false start, etc] – Titans
Most Penalties (10yrds) [Holding, Hands to face] – Titans
Most Penalties (15yrds) [Personal Fouls] – Titans
Most Penalties (Variable) [Pass interference] – Titans
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by Adam Stites on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
If there's anything in general you should take away from my chart
It’s that I think the Titans have more talent on the offense and defense, but the Jaguars make less mistakes and have better special teams.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 12, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
ok
and yeah that is least sacks given up
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
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by DonFrancisco on Oct 12, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions
special teams
not sure i agree on special teams and kicking………………scobey / bironas is a push
have not watch the jags but other than two plays our special teams have been solid at worst…..
by jrblessed2000 on Oct 12, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Scobee is the best kicker in the league
He hasn’t missed this season. Scratch that, he hasn’t even come close to missing this season or this preseason. He’s 10-10 with only one of those kicks coming from under 44 yards. Then obviously there was the 59 yarder. If Bironas and Scobee are even, then Bironas must be pretty amazing.
As for special teams, we’re even more confident. Kassim Osgood was the Pro Bowl special teamer last year, with Montell Owens as his alternate. Now they’re on the same team. Then you add in a guy like William Middleton who was ranked by ProFootballFocus as the best special teamer in the league. Then there’s Don Carey who’s playing for the first year after being on IR his rookie season and he’s taking playing time from these guys. That’s just the coverage. Watch Deji Karim return a kick and then you’ll see what we’re all about on returns.
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Bironas is special; Scobee is a fluke
Scobee looks like he has improved over unimpressive previous seasons, but we are only 5 games into the season. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Scobee’s numbers regress to an above average season (for him). It was just last season when Jags fans were crying out for his head with his 64.3% field goal completion. I believe Scobee is somewhere in between this season and last season in terms of talent.
Meanwhile, Bironas has an 85% lifetime field goal completion and has been consistent over the last 4 seasons. Bironas is better than Scobee.
As far as the rest of the special teams unit, that remains to be seen. Mariani (our kick returner, a rookie) is amazingly good. He is tied for the league lead in kick returns of greater than 40 yards (with 3). Titans sit 7th on Kick Return average while Jags are 9th. Titans are 10th for punt return average while Jags are 13th. I’d say this unit is a push (though you might be right on coverage teams – we’re decidedly average).
we just got Deji back last week
im sure our stats will improve every game he plays
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Again, careful of short sample sizes
especially when they are one game only. The Bills aren’t exactly a renown team for special teams play.
well you will see........
then you will be telling other teams to be careful………of Deji
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Two things
1. The Bills usually are pretty good on special teams, despite being being fairly bad on offense and defense.
2. Deji is the real thing. He looks the same so far in the regular season as he did in the preseason. And I know what my eyes see regardless of the numbers. I do agree that Mariani is pretty good on returns, but I what I think puts the Jag return team above the Titans’ is that the blocking in front of Deji is better.
Fluke is a joke
Scobee’s average was progressively rising up until 2008 and then, as you noted, his 2009 was abysmal with 64.3 being is career low. Bironas has been more consistent, hovering within the 85 to 89% category), but as of today they are only separated by 6%. Beyond what you “feel”, failing to consider any offseason work done, or the fact that 4 years into his career he went from 77.4 to 92.3 is irresponsible. Sure that 92.3 was over 8 games, but even if you extrapolate it out the progress is shown.
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by Brian Fullford on Oct 13, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
aside from the his 50+ streak of 7 in a row,
when bironas cuts the indy’s heart out, he does it from 60, my friend.
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uhhhhh scobee hit his from 59.....
it had enough on it to go at least 64……64!!!!!!!!!!
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i give props to Bironas though........
he is good, but Scobee is on fire this year……….
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Its been 5 games
And i remember people being pretty frustrated with him not too long ago…
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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 12, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, and through five games this year, Scobee looks better.
So far. Not saying it won’t change, but there is no denying that thus far, Scobee has player better football (emphasis on the foot).
by alwaysforgiven821 on Oct 13, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't you check out Bironas's 60 yarder again.
He would have made it from a little farther too.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 12, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember it....
I’m just saying……59 to 60 is not a big difference. They both have huge legs
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I can't believe there's soooo much talk about kickers....really?
What I would like to know is…I see a hot VY coming to town to face a very weak secondary….now, unless I’m wrong, that spells a very lopsided victory for the Titans….am I wrong?
by titansfan4ever on Oct 15, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you are
Young didn’t beat the Jags last year, Chris Johnson did. Don’t underestimate the Jaguars’ defensive line. They are much improved over last year. I fully expect them to get a lot of pressure on Young.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
And that may be your saving grace...
but by the same token, our DL has 22 sacks on the year, so I look for Gerrard to spend much of the night on his back star gazing in that beautiful Florida sky :-)
by titansfan4ever on Oct 15, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
The offensive line has been pretty solid this year, except for the Eagles game. I’m not taking anything away from what the Titans have done so far, but I’m sure that Garrard is not going to hold the ball for very long.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
and correct me if im wrong....
i see a very weak Titans seconday….now that sould spell lopsided too …..right……..?……
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Our secondary is actually strong.
You should play 3 teams in a row that passed for an average 48 times per game.
Then account for the TD-Int ratio
5-6 ratio. so our secondary made a play more often than they gave up a touchdown.
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The stats show otherwise
If you look at total yards, then yes, our secondary looks weak. A lot of that has to do with how our opponents played against us (for the most part conceding the run game completely).
A better way to judge the effectiveness of a secondary is with the following stats:
1) TD/INT ratio (6:7 for Titans, 12:4 for Jags). The Jags have given up the most TDs in the league through the air.
2) Completion percentage (sadly, both the Jags and the Titans are in the bottom end of the league, but much has to do with giving away free short passes and lousy “prevent” defense).
3) Avg / Attempt – Jags are the worst in the league at 8.8 yards. This is the worst by far. Titans are in the top half at 6.8 yards per attempt. I’d argue this is the most important if you wanted to just look at one stat.
4) Sacks (they make an inadequate secondary look much better) – 22 leading the league for the Titans. Jags have 11.
5) You might add in QB rating, but I personally don’t care for that stat. Jags would be second worst in the league if you used it.
In short, Titans have an ok secondary. Jags are at the bottom of the league in most of these categories. Calling our secondary weak is like a black hole calling a kettle black.
i never said our secondayr wasnt weak
our secondary wasnt week…..we are and i’ll admit our secondary has been the pits…..but, if you look at the the teams we played all of those QB’s have been lighting up the air with passes and not just on us….
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sorry had a typo....in first line of the reply....
i never said our secondary wasnt weak, we are weak.
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Your stats....
may also be un realistic due to the stealers game….look who was QB for that game….or should i say wasnt……you havnt exactly faced top notch QB so far this year….
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Eli Manning, 20101 Kyle Orton, Tony Romo
none of those guys are chopped liver, and we’re still the 3rd best passing D according to FO. Sorry, but you can’t point to competition as a crutch
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verses our....
orton, rivers, vick,manning…“fitzpatric” not good, and no onw should give up 220 like we did…but your point is we have only allowed 140 more yards over 5 gamesm then you have….and in the pit game they only attempted at tottal of 17 passees…and that was with dixon and batch, and i assure you if rothlesburger was in there theose numbers would be alot higher, and the game against campbell in oakland 180, who is worst then fitzpatric, my point when you went againts QB of some dignity your secondary got torched worse then ourse did….just sayin…stats are showing it.
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Points > Yards
we’ll give up short passes to force long drives (leading to more mistakes like penalties and INTs), then we’re the best red zone D in the league right now. That’s how we’ve given up about 8.5 fewer points per game than the Jags.
Raw passing yardage numbers are vastly overrated. We’ve had 3 games where the other team attempted 40+ passes, you guys only have 1.
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Torched??????
NY was well behind, Denver threw 50 times and was behind most of the gameand Dallas was behind.
Teams who are losing tend to throw the football last time I checked.
The only torching was a despiration prayer by orton that chris hope made a huge mistake on and ran into the reciever.
You have your opinion but if the jags beat the Titans it will be because they shut our offense down ,,,,,,,,,,Not because they torch our defense
by jrblessed2000 on Oct 15, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You may
be surprised. Not saying our offense will torch your D, but its very possible, and the Jag offense has more ability than you give them credit for.
anything is possible in the nfl
my point is our defense will show up to play as it has every week this year.
by jrblessed2000 on Oct 16, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
According to FO
we’ve faced the 2nd (Orton) and 7th (Romo) most efficient QBs so far.
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and if thats, your plee...
then we have faced….1,2,3,13,24….to your….
2,7,30,314,26….so your right theres not much a diffrence there in the comitition….
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I wasn't comparing the QBs we've faced
I was pointing out that we’ve faced stiff enough competition that you can’t just dismiss the performances.
Hell, maybe part of the reason 4 of the QBs you’ve faced are in the top 15 overall is because they all got to play Jacksonville!
/not true, just playing the stats shell game
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you may bee right...
but we did beat denver and held orton to 295, and yall lost and he had 341…so maybe yall contributed to those…to…look i think we bot can agree that both of our secondaries are pretty bad….what i see keeping you all around longer and making you look better is as you said the red zone, witch your linebackers and D line are steping up….so props to them for that.
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and forcing INTs
we’ve already got 7 to your 4.
I really believe (been saying it out loud for over a year now) that the Titans’ coaches would place passing yardage surrendered at about 5th or 6th in the stats they rank as important. In no particular order, forced turnovers, points given-up, 3rd down efficiency, red zone efficiency and QB sacks/pressures have been their points of emphasis for years now. Jim Schwartz started that mentality, and Cecil is keeping with it.
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ok forget it,
i see your stuborness to admitting your team isnt perfect like ours, isnt in your cards….So good game to you sir and may the best team win.
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Just going by the stats as well
I was shocked to see the Jags have a worse coverage unit, as our secondary is giving up yards by the bushel.
Looks like VY has half the interceptions of Garrard and a similar number of pass attempts.
Sadly, you are correct on the penalties (41 for Titans, 26 for the Jags).
My version of the chart
Pass Offense – Jaguars
Pass Defense – Titans
Rush Offense – Titans
Rush Defense – Tie
O-line Pass Blocking – Titans
O-line Run Blocking – Titans
D-line Run/Pass Penetration – Titans
D-line Pass Rush – Titans
Least Fumbles – Jaguars
Least Interceptions – Jaguars
Least Sacks – Titans (I interpreted this as sacks given up)
Special teams (fg,pat) – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Returns – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Returns – Jaguars
Most Penalties (5yrds) [offsides, false start, etc] – Titans
Most Penalties (10yrds) [Holding, Hands to face] – Titans
Most Penalties (15yrds) [Personal Fouls] – Titans
Most Penalties (Variable) [Pass interference] – Titans
hmm
Pass Offense – Push
Pass Defense – Titans
Rush Offense – Push
Rush Defense – Jaguars
O-line Pass Blocking – Jaguars
O-line Run Blocking – Push
D-line Run/Pass Penetration – Jaguars
D-line Pass Rush – Jaguars
Least Fumbles – Push
Least Interceptions – Push
Least Sacks – Push
Special teams (fg,pat) – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Kick Returns – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Coverage – Jaguars
Special teams Punt Returns – Jaguars
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Hahaha
you think the Jags have a better D-line?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahha yeah
i don’t know what he was thinking!!
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It certainly made me laugh out loud
Pat McAfee is my favourite Colts player: "Stampedeblue.com is completely false and a horrible piece of "journalism" I said nothing about anybody, all I did was compliment Randy Moss"
"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There's no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 16, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Relax
the difference is not as big as you think. I think the biggest difference is the depth. Let me put it this way. Aaron Kampman and Terrance Knighton would start on your DL.
The fact that I don't know who Terrance Knighton is implies he probably wouldn't.
Kampman’s having a good season, but I’m not even sure if he would start on this team either. Our defensive line right now is absolutely outstanding. I’m sure the Jags line is pretty solid but the play of our line right now is amazing. Jason Babin has 5.5 sacks in 5 games. For comparison, Kampman has 3.
Pat McAfee is my favourite Colts player: "Stampedeblue.com is completely false and a horrible piece of "journalism" I said nothing about anybody, all I did was compliment Randy Moss"
"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There's no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 16, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Your lack of knowledge....
shows your ignorance….Terrance Knighton is known through out football, take off your baby blue glasses and wake up, Your line is play superb yes….I will give you that….But They are not with out able to be contained.
WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!
In WTF13's defense, I haven't heard of Terrance Knighton either.
And considering ESPN gives him a 66 rating…
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 16, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
me neither
and really to be honest on a d-line like ours there isn’t really starters there’s Alpha and Beta.
So….What you got vs that??
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 17, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Please don't use ESPN as a reference
There are plenty of other sites, like Pro Football Focus, that are much more insightful than ESPN.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
Pro Football Focus does not have coach's tape
So I don’t understand where they get their footage for their stats.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 17, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
13) Do you use coaches’ film, or TV broadcasts for your analysis? How can you see what players are lined up where?
We use TV broadcasts for both the analysis and the player participation data. We’ve been asked a lot how therefore is it possible to determine who was on the field in every position through TV pictures. Surely that just isn’t possible? Well, just because something is not easy doesn’t mean it is impossible. Firstly, the high definition picture from which we work is excellent, and that gives us the best starting point outside of coaches’ film, which isn’t attainable outside of NFL offices.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
Not to mention
coaches tape isn’t really needed to gauge how good a linemen is. They are fairly easy to see.
I'm not saying Knighton is bad
I’m saying that our defensive line is playing outstanding and is stronger than the Jags line. That doesn’t mean there line is bad, it’s just that its not as good.
And don’t call me ignorant please. Just because I don’t know some random defensive lineman on your team does not make me ignorant. If Knighton plays well, I’ll get to know him, but at this point its yet to be determined.
Pat McAfee is my favourite Colts player: "Stampedeblue.com is completely false and a horrible piece of "journalism" I said nothing about anybody, all I did was compliment Randy Moss"
"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There's no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 17, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I must be ignorant, cause I don't know the names of the Titan's DLs
Not your fault for not knowing, Winnipeg.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Oct 17, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
we are the no name defense
we don’t care if you don’t know us, we just get our job done plain and simple
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 17, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was just agreeing that not knowing a lineman's name doesn't make a person ignorant.
Pat McAfee is my favourite Colts player: "Stampedeblue.com is completely false and a horrible piece of "journalism" I said nothing about anybody, all I did was compliment Randy Moss"
"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There's no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 17, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha. Okay, I need something to mark my sarcastic statements.
At least you got it, Winnipeg.
Good luck in the game tonight – I’ll be watching your defense closely.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Oct 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
that's okay
all you need to know is that we lead the league in sacks..
My remaining fellow JaMarcus Russell fans, please stand up..
So the Jags are better or equal to the Titans in every phase of the game
except pass defense? Funny, because I wouldn’t complain if you said “push” on that one. Ours has an edge, but both aren’t great.
LOL @ the defensive line (and sacks).
Titans do have the better defensive line
Not just in stats, but because the Jags only have 3 solid or better starters. Derrick Harvey isn’t the player the Jags hoped he would when they traded up to get him in 2008.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
By the way
I was so pissed when the Titans drafted Alterraun Verner. He was my single, most wanted prospect in the draft. I was actually the one who introduced him to SBNation way back before the draft. I love the stuff he does over here and I haven’t missed one of his posts.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 12, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
we are gonna have to give ATV a warning for going to BCC
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I guess we owe you thanks, then.
It’s pretty dang awesome having a player who reads the blog and posts.
He is the most approachable NFL player I have ever seen.
And he does not like to say no.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He is a UCLA kid
Wouldn’t expect any less.
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by Brian Fullford on Oct 13, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam you did
introduce him to BCC. But I was the first to mention him.(Gotta read the comments section) lol
Just messing with ya Adam.
Bottom line is, there were some angry people over at BCC when the Titans drafted Verner. In case you guys over here at MCM haven’t seen many of Verner’s highlights, I made a fanpost over at BCC with a link to a LONG highlight film and some tips for watching the vid.
Who do yall think
On The Jags team will have the best contribution to their team on Offense and Defense.
Jags-
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Offense – MSM
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by titansfan615 on Oct 13, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Depends
If the Titans run significantly then it could be Daryl Smith, Knighton, Alualu or Morrison. Our DTs must ensure the cut back lanes are non-existent.
On offense the sun will rise and set on Garrard. In my opinion if the Jags cannot pass then the speed on defense will sit on the run. I would say anyone on the o-line but even if protection is limited, David must find the hot route or the dump off.
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by Brian Fullford on Oct 13, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Side question for Loesche
Is that Bill Hicks in you pic?
If so, he was the shit. Absolutely the most honest and fearless comic to ever walk the earth. He was hilarious with routines that would get most comics killed.
/science fact
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 13, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Hicks avatar=automatic Rec.
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by Strangely Enough on Oct 13, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
For me, this Jags team is one of the most confusing teams in the league.
How do you guys feel about this team? They lose huge to the Chargers and Eagles but beat teams like Denver and Indy. Are they underachieving against the former, overachieving against the latter, or just an average team that will end up in the 7-9 to 9-7 range?
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We are a 8-8 caliber team
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 14, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
i'd agree
I think we’d be happy to go 7-9 or higher
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The team comes and goes with David Garrard
Like I said earlier in this thread:
Passer Ratings in the wins: 138.9, 127.7, 122.5
Passer Ratings in the losses: 62.7, 38.9
Also, the wins against the Denver and Indy were both at home, while the losses to SD and Philadelphia along with the slow start against the Bills were all on the road. That could be a factor as well. I think this is a team that overachieved in the big wins and underachieved in the bad losses. 7-9 to 9-7 is a very fair assessment of the Jaguars as of right now.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 14, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
actually the phili game was a home game, just felt away with all the boo’s
WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!
its alright we all wish it was a away game then we could feel at a little bettter about the performance lol....
WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!
Ouch...
L'enfer, c'est les autres.
by Strangely Enough on Oct 14, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I would say that Garrard was the main reason we lost to SD, as he was just having a very bad day. Against the Eagles, we were playing a hot team on a cold night, and I doubt any QB could have gotten us out of that game with a “W”.
*insert Colts fan*
Peyton could do it
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Interesting and honest, i appreciate that. to carry that one step further...
We feel we should be 4-1 right now. what do you think your record should be?
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by stetix01 on Oct 15, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions
3-2
That’s what they’ve earned so far. I don’t have any complaints on their record, the only thing that bothers me is how they lost the two games.
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
We deserved to lose all the game we lost
And we play well enough to earn the games we won. So 3-2
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