Despite the final numbers, I thought Kerry Collins played very well.
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I agree
Collins played well. His receivers and the O line let him down. Both VY and Ramsey would have performed worse under the same circumstances.
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 3:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I mean, “played well?” Just wow.
We have officially reached the point where it is impossible – actually impossible – for Collins to not have a good game.
I’m not even talking about having a bad game now – I’m talking about not having a good game. Vince-Young-a-phobia has just become an epidemic of epic proportions…..
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw for 170 yards with 2 picks.
That’s half of what you predicted in yards and twice as many picks.
His quarterback rating was 41.5 with a completion percentage of 40.5%. 13 straight incompletions. He was 0-10 in the fourth quarter with a pick and a sack.
There is no way a rational human being could say with a straight face that he “played well.”
by SuperHorn on Sep 28, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Kerry Collins played well"
Okay, I laughed. But I tried.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers lose games!
You can’t win games if you keep losing the ball. We are seriuosly hurting on special teams and our secondary is playing so out of character.
by conder7 on Sep 29, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes two people to complete a pass
and the receivers kept dropping catchable balls.
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Before you try to rescue Collins by blaming the receivers
You might want to remember that Vince had worse receivers than Kerry Collins has right now.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And none of those fools could catch either!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somebody went Peter King style
and only watched the first half
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dierdorff was practically raving about
collins when we were moving the ball in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. everything stopped working after the muffed punt.
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you love stats
For the year, Kerry has posted a quarterback rating of 25.9 in the fourth quarter. To add insult to injury, every time he has had the ball in the 4th, we’ve been within 7 points. Which is to say, he plays dramatically worse when we need him the most.
by SuperHorn on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not his fault!
The team should NEVER be in a position where the most important player in football – the QB – should have to contribute at the end of the game. If the rest of the team does their job, we’re up 21 points with five minutes to go.
Everyone else failed – bottom line. (Rolling eyes)
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rest of the team played great!
It was obvious that we lost because of Kerry Collins.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kerry Collins
was indeed a big part of that loss, yes. Or are you going to blame the defense?
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I am blaming
Kerry Collins, the receivers, the special teams, Chris Johnson, the defense and the coaching staff.
Why are we intent on only blaming Kerry Collins?
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much everybody here has acknowledged the blame Collins should get for this game
So why are we fighting? The only argument that is legit is “should we play VY now, or let Collins keep playing”? I’m more for the latter, but I can see both sides of the argument.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see both sides as well
What I cannot see is how these people can actually think that playing Vince Young fixes all of our problems.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is...
the justification for not playing him, at this point?
Plus, nobody is suggestion Vince Young solves “all of our problems.” Just that he might prove to be an upgrade, or revert to his last-second-heroics form of recent years past.
If the aforementioned stats are worth anything, it’s hard to see him doing worse than Collins is doing right now.
There is only one true way to find out…..
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Kerry Collins is a better quarterback than Vince Young
And Young is gone after this season anyway.
If we end up 0-6 or 1-5,then I don’t care if Ryan Mouton plays quarterback.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're 0-6, I wanna see T-Rac play QB.
Obviously I’m biased though.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because starters don't just lose their spot after a rough game
and lets be honest, Kerry has only had one game that’s on him in any way.
I’m suprised all of these VY honks haven’t once said they want VY to WIN the QB job, not just inherit it by default.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kerry has looked like shit all year.
VY had more TDs than KC did during the preseason. Yeah he made some dumb mistakes but what exactly did Collins do to earn the position.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 games isn't a big sample size
and don’t quote the preseason like that, it makes you look either naive or dishonest.
Collins didn’t earn his shot, he was next on the depth chart when VY emotionally imploded.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
when VY emotionally imploded.
You mean when he got injured?
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he quit
but tell me that a person can not over come adversity. KC did.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I dont think the preseason is all that.
But you make it sound like KC has been all that when in fact he really has not done anything except make excuses for the last 7 games.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Changing QBs
is not unheard of. Happens quite often, actually.
And it is very generous to suggest that Kerry’s only had “one game that’s on him in any way.”
He is 2-7 as a starter in his last 9 games, and his aforementioned stats warrant giving someone else a shot.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not..
…but nobody is claiming the Special Teams played “well” or that the coaching staff did “well.” They are claiming Kerry Collins played “well,” despite all evidence to the contrary.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe Kerry Collins has been a positive attribute the past 2 games..
You are living in an alternative universe. Any good NFL quarterback will put the team on his shoulders and win at least 3 games in the last 2 minutes during any given season. KC has managed to do the exact opposite. I dont know that VY is the answer but he damn sure cant do any worse.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Vince "not doing any worse"
…is what some folks are concerned about. Right now, there are some who so passionately wish to bid “good riddance” to Vince that I genuine believe they are afraid not that he will be any worse, but that he might succeed — thus leaving them “stuck” with a player they so deeply dislike for years to come.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh please
that’s craziness. We’d pull for any one who isn’t a horrible human being if they win games. I killed Kerry for 2 years and defended VY all over the place until he imploded.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"until he imploded"
Gives credence to my charge.
I think anyone who is here regularly can see the passionate fear VY haters have that he might succeed.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're fucking crazy
VY and his mom are the only people who don’t think he didn’t lose it.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again,
credence. You want him gone, and you fear he’ll play well enough that you’ll have to see him in a Titans uniform next year.
That’s fine. I’m just pointing it out.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want him gone
I want him right in the head and playing well, and I trust the coaches to make that call. I don’t trust VY’s knob slobbers to make that call.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
I don’t think you understand. If VY came out and played like a badass and we went 11-2 and made the playoffs and got to the AFC championship this year, I’d buy a VY jersey AS SOON AS I COULD. However, I don’t think he can do that, and I don’t think he could do better than KFC has, despite KFC sucking. On the other hand, if KFC keeps sucking for the next 2 or 3 games and we keep losing, then I think it is worth a shot to find out with Vince.
There is a difference between not wanting someone to succeed and thinking someone likely won’t. You can’t seem to figure the line out.
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This was to Jade
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question:
The team is 4-6 going into the 11th game.
Who do we start (remember, we have a BIG decision to make on VY this offseason)?
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VY would be my choice
I don’t get to make the decisions though.
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by Jimmy on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
T-Rac has a VY jersey
You heard it here first.
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by Jimmy on Sep 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
that line of reasoning is disgusting. I, and everyone I can think of on here, want every player on this roster to succeed. To say otherwise is insulting.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My last comment was redacted.
If you saw that, sorry.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redact it!
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by Jimmy on Sep 28, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I be redactin'!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want honesty?
I don’t “deeply dislike” Vince. I deeply dislike all of the people who have come to this website and talked all this crap about Vince Young like he is freakin’ Steve McNair and give us shit like “I pray for the Titans to lose when Kerry Collins is playing.”
I can’t wait until he is gone, so those people are gone as well.
That’s honesty.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude Vince Young is not Steve.
Not a single person here is saying that. The best that Young can be is Young. He has talent truth be told probably alot more than Collins. The question has always been can he make the most of it. He failed. PERIOD. HE QUIT ON THE TEAM. But that was over a year ago. People can change. At what point does he get a chance to prove himself? What do you expect him to do to win your confidence? Thats an honest question. Kerry may not have quit on the team but he damn sure isnt leading us to victory either.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with it. Play him. If he succeeds, all the better.
But he won’t. Not with the team playing like this.
He is not the answer to our problems right now.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At what point does he get a chance to prove himself?
If we keep losing, not long from now. Just not this week.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yes he could
we’ve been in the game on the last possession every time. Lets not act like we’re getting destroyed here.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and on every last possession KC has epicly FAILED
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 games
quit overreacting. There are sound arguments to be made for VY. You aren’t making them.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no argument...
good enough for Vince haters.
And yes, it is reasonable to expect a QB to pull one out at the end of one of the last several games.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are some Vince-haters and Kerry sunshine-pumpers
But I don’t think August, and most people on this board, are like that. They want to win, and if Vince helps them do that, they’ll be as happy as anyone.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what
go over to thebiglead.com or stampedeblue.com and ask them if I’m a VY hater. You’ll get a massive no because I spent many an hour defending VY and our team throughout 2006-2007.
Even better, you can go through our archives and try to find a place where I crapped on VY before he deserved it.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are.
..essentially confirming everything I am saying.
As of Game One last year, your mind was made up – Vince has to go.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
I’m saying it takes a while to prove yourself to the people who make those decisions, while refuting the idea some folks have that VY didn’t do anything that caused him to lose his job.
Anything else I can clarify for you?
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are a stupid jackass with nothing useful to say
i am a jade scorpion hater, not a vince hater.
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, because the
“stupid jackass” posts, as well as all of the other name-calling posts I get for having an opposing opinion, are just so useful…..
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPPOSING OPINION
But it doesn’t sit well when you start saying stupid things like “you people are scared of Vince Young succeeding.”
That is insulting and assholish. And we call em like we see em.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As do I.
And I think folks here want Vince gone that badly.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should caveat that with
….the fact that Vince may very well have earned that level of spite which I suggest is evident.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
say it over and over again
our spite is aimed at fools like you who have nothing to contribute besides a hardon for vince young. if vince fails the team fails and none of us want that so stop saying dumb shit.
WE DON"T HATE VINCE YOUNG. WE HATE HIS INTERNET MINIONS!
hopefully that’s the last time we have to clear that up.
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“…..WE DON”T HATE VINCE YOUNG….."
I think many here do, and I think they hate him to a point where – after the team is already effectively out-of-the-running – they would want him to fail, even though “if he fails, the team fails…”
I think that if he took the helm at 1-7 and the team finished 8-8, there would be a lot of people anguished and gnashing their teeth because they don’t want him back THAT badly.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're wrong
completely stupid thing to say.
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good that
you can speak on behalf of everyone.
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He speaks on behalf of me.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps...
….I struck a nerve.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell after game one last year VY's mind was made up
‘I have to quit’. but he calmed down and realized he needs to get right. I calmed down after that, but it doesn’t mean he gets a free pass for it. He’ll get his chance, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t acting like an asshole.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want Vince to get...
…a free pass.
I want him UNDER THE MICROSCOPE.
I’m not even a big BELIEVER in Vince after last year, but we need to KNOW once and for all whether he has something, or nothing, left to contribute to the Titans’ future.
We can’t learn that with him on the bench; and Collins (and the rest of the team) hasn’t played well enough to justify the idea that we’re playing for the Super Bowl this year.
If Vince fails, he fails. We’ll be in a position to draft a blue-chip QB of the future, and Kerry Collins will helm the ship next year until the newbie is ready. But if he succeeds…………………
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
collins hasn't played well overall
everyone can see that. but that’s not to say he hasn’t made some great throws along with the awful throws. the problem is consistency and frankly no facet of our offense has any right now. collins is not and never has been a guy who will carry a team to victory very often.
this team is not built to win games that require 4th quarter heroics in the passing game. it just isn’t. collins needs to get back to doing the safe things well and ’dinger needs to get back to pounding teams with smash and dash instead of throwing the ball 35 times per game.
collins succeeded last year because the titans only asked him to do the simple thing well. this season however, the coaches have inexplicably forgotten what made last year work with collins and are using him in a manner that is going to lead to more mistakes.
in short, more lendale, less kerry.
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with that, as I am sure you know Hal
Is the offense HAS to throw a bit more when down 14-0 before they touch the ball.
The Texans game however, as I wrote here and my blog and everywhere is we should have POUNDED the Texans once we were up 21-7 and 21-14.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hal you are sounding like Fisher Except.........
White is not getting the ball.
by Oden1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's a problem too IMO..
Lendale should be.
by J3G77 on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm standing pat
The key part of my original post was that “both VY and Ramsey would have played worse under the same circumsances.”. I didn’t see anybody really refute that point, so I guess KC is our best QB. So, what’s everybody beefing about?
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
No.
The key part of your post was “Collins played well,” which is patently false. You don’t get to try to shift emphasis away from a statement you made because it gets easily refuted.
The problem with your alleged “main point” is that it is entirely speculative. We have no idea how Vince would have performed in similar circumstances. Certainly, it is unrealistic to expect VY to light the world on fire, bu it is also unreasonable to expect a performance significantly worse than what Collins put up. In any case, that’s why people responded to your first part and ignored your second. We can actually see results regarding your first point. We have nothing but your own speculation for the second.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played well under the circumstances
The receivers were dropping LOTs of catchable balls, and the O line was letting the blitz in on top of him for much of the second half. Who could have done better in that situation?
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He did get victimized by drops
He also threw some very poor passes that only very good or elite receivers (which the Titans don’t have) would have caught consistently. Furthermore, it’s partially on the QB to recognize blitzes and to make adjustments. He didn’t, and panicked when he saw guys come at him.
It is silly to blame the loss solely on Collins. It is equally silly to suggest he doesn’t share in the blame.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 28, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My granny.
Seriously, these kind of arguments about imaginary scenarios are the bane of sports forums from my point of view. So, since it’s patently impossible to say how VY would have performed in the Jets game, or how many angels would fit inside Fisher’s mustache, then yes: My granny would have avoided the heck out of that blitz, audibled the Jets out of their socks, and thrown the ball so hard that it wedged in the receivers helmets and they wouldn’t have had the opportunity to drop it. Refute.
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"how many angels would fit inside Fisher’s mustache"
people, seriously, rec that comment until the internets explode.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. Best comment ever on MCM. EVA.
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Refute!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we don't go into our bye week at 2-4 VY will be the starter
Kerry is playing bad now but it has only been 2 bad games for him so I’m willing to give him more time to fix it. The keys to winning will be to pound the rock and stop the turnovers. And I haven’t posted on this site but all these people who just pop up screaming to start VY now are insanely annoying.
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by Sheriff McLawdog on Sep 28, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe; Maybe Not
We don’t really know what Fisher and the O coaches think about Vince. They may have already decided “no way, no how.”
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If that was true
Then they would have been insanely foolish to let Chris Simms go this off season.
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by Sheriff McLawdog on Sep 28, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think much of Simms, either;
Did you?
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If so...
…then we deserve to know this.
That’s fine — if it is the case, and Vince has irrepairably burned his bridge, so be it. That’s the way it is.
But TELL us this instead of giving us the “Vince is the QB of the future” talk we got from everyone this offseason……….We do deserve to know THAT much. Fans don’t always deserve to know everything……but I think we’re entitled to know this one.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 28, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you all understand??
The “QB of the Future” line is coming from Bud Adams. If it weren’t for Adams, I’m not sure what Fisher would be saying. But, I don’t think he has much choice right now.
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 5:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Fisher has said that line too
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Fisher has said it several times. But, I think Bud has probably more or less made it clear that Fisher is expected to say it if he wants to stay in the owner’s good graces.
by JimR on Sep 28, 2009 5:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That escalated quickly.
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by August West on Sep 28, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depressing stat lines
4th quarter performances by NFL starting QBs yesterday:
JaMarcus Russell: 2 completions, -4 Passing yards, 0 int, 14 yards lost to sacks
Kerry Collins: 0 completions, 0 passing yards, 1 int, 8 yards lost to sacks
Obviously KFC is a much better QB than Off-the-Markus, but the fact that they have a comparable stat line in even one quarter of one game is enough to drive me insane.
At this point I’m indifferent as to who starts – I’m not ready to bury Collins and I would hate to have such a classy player succumb to a knee-jerk reaction, but at the same time a new QB could galvanize our offense. Unfortunately, our problem is turnovers and VY has a penchant for those. I don’t envy Coach Fish right now….
by jeanl0uis on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Both qb’s are turnover prone atleast Kerry has been as of the last few games. He has had no choice though…the o-line has not been protecting him at all, last year he had all day to throw. Vince gives us an upside with his legs but that’s about it…if you are saying Vince would be better in the pocket, or not turning the ball over everyone you are crazy! I’m not ready to give up on Collins yet I give him until the bye to get it turned around.
p.s. Britt, Washington, and 12 Gage are not helping the cause at all with dropped passes…whatever happened to the passing game looking better this year? It looks about the same if not worse if you take away the redzone passes and especially without scaife, Collins security blanket.
by danomite on Sep 28, 2009 6:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED CUTLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Jimmy on Sep 28, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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by hal41605 on Sep 28, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Don Francisco when you need him?
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by gramsey712 on Sep 28, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins hasn't played well because
he’s limited in what he can do. He can make some throws and keep an offense from blowing a game. That’s what he did last year. But this year the Titans have leaned on him to win games by himself without a whole lot of help from the defense, and definitely no help from Special teams, which is expecting too much out of Kerry. Really you could only expect that out of Brady, Manning bros, Roethlisburger, maybe McNabb, Rodgers, and Rivers. We need to get the other aspects of the team together, and when we do, Kerry will do what he proved he can do last year.
by meddle on Sep 29, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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