Pressured or unpressured, Collins is near the bottom of the division.
Interesting stat work by ESPN's folks, who appear to be intent on creating new categories and tracking the stuff that's been the domain on Football Outsiders so far.
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WHAT???????????? A POST ON MUSIC CITY MIRACLES CRITICAL OF KERRY COLLINS???????????????????
BIG TUNA MUST NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS. HE WOULD NEVER ALLOW A CRITICAL POST ABOUT KERRY COLLINS ON MUSIC CITY MIRACLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gram is right
I had no knowledge for this post before it went on my site. August has been issued a dissadulation!
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by Jimmy on Sep 24, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been docked lord knows how many Shrutebucks
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by August West on Sep 24, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let the "Start VY!" comments begin!
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by Pinoy Titan on Sep 24, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will someone please forward this article to Jeff Fisher and Chuck Cecil.
This week’s conclusion from these numbers: Blitz Matt Schaub.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More.
From Football Outsiders:
Is Nick Harper getting old? Harper has made 16 tackles after pass completions this year, three more than any other defender, and those tackles have come after an average gain of 11.5 yards. He has no passes defensed so far.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody else think they give Fuller or Mouton a shot...
… if Harper has another stinker of a performance?
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Sep 24, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not until after the bye week
but I think it’s possible Harper could lose his starting spot
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by August West on Sep 24, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree
I do not see it happening till the bye week, but I really think that at some point this season Harper gets bumped out of the starting lineup.
As far as who gets the nod between Fuller and Mouton, my opinon would be Mouton. Fuller has been a good Nickle back but I dont really see him as being that much more of an upgrade over Mouton. At least with Mouton we would be bulding the future not biding our time.
by bullrider73 on Sep 24, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
That stat speaks volumes.
by Strangely Enough on Sep 25, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The really bad news from the article...
is that Peyton Manning is still damn good, and has a few years left “in the tank” yet.
Dammit.
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Unfortunately
Yep. Peyton was fairly scary last Monday night in Miami. Esp. in the second half.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 2:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts...
are an afterthought without him in the lineup. I can’t wait for those days………….
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 24, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it cant happen soon enough for me.
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by stetix01 on Sep 24, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins is the man!!
What these half-xxxed stats don’t show is that Kerry really knows when to throw the ball away. In situations where VY would be running around trying to make a play or force a pass, KC will just throw it out of bounds. Very safe. That’s why we love him.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Is this sarcasm?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 24, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 24, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind or wondering the same thing too.
Like Kerry or not, he looked awful last week. You can’t be a “game manager” and throw a pick and fumble during the 2 minute drill. It just doesn’t work.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I'm saying is
that the smart decisions KC makes to minimize turnovers don’t show up in the completion stats. Last game was a bad example at the end, but the exception proves the rule.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 2:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No QB has
zero turnovers, but KC’s numbers over a whole season are very good. You have to factor that into the overall equasion.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 2:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No.
No. No.
Look, I was basically called a crazy for expecting a regression to the mean for a guy who is at the end of his career. Nearly everyone here is expecting an IMPROVEMENT from last season. Those expectations are ridiculous.
He’s throwing an INT percentage of 2.9%, just below his career average of 3.2%. And, that’s not terribly bad, but I think it’s reasonable to expect more of the same.
Kerry is built to play with the lead when he’s not asked to do much. He was great at that last year. But, unless this defense gets their act together, and Chris Johnson consistently puts together “successful plays”, Kerry is in for a long year.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The interception in the Steelers game is slightly more forgivable in my eyes
It was a deep bomb to a rookie and Polamalu made an amazingly acrobatic catch.
The one against the Texans, however… that was awful. A bad decision and a worse throw at the absolutely worst time in that game. If we, say, get a few first downs, slow the game down and kick a field goal or even punt and pin them back, I think we win that game and take control of it soon after. Instead he made a horrible pick that put our old, tired defense back on the field and led to the Texans scoring their 2nd TD in under 2 minutes, giving them the momentum for the rest of the game. We never recovered it. Just completely irresponsible and unforgivable. On top of that, to fumble in that spot in that way… just weak. No excuse whatsoever.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 24, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Posse is calling for VY
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by Jimmy on Sep 24, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling for Ramsey!
What’s Billy Volek doing these days………..? LOL
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I'm here.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you are trying to provoke me Jimmy
I will not give in, though it is so tempting…
The answer is no, I am NOT calling for VY. I am calling for Collins to get his ass in gear. I will say no more.
Okay, I lied. One more thing. If we’re 2-6 at the halfway point, I don’t see why we wouldn’t put VY in at that point.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
once we cross 5 losses, all bets are off.
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by August West on Sep 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that as well.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I can’t believe that both TRac and Gram would be on board with this.
I’d call for him a little sooner, though if:
a) we’re 0-4 (just because a loss to the Jags would be so awful) or
b) we’re 1-5
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to not think of those as possibilities but
yeah, I agree. 0-4 or 1-5 and I wouldn’t object to VY playing. However, I would be calling for Cecil’s head and for Jeff Fisher to give us some answers.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Sep 24, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with you people?!?
Collins didn’t cause either one of the losses this season. We need to focus on the secondary and special teams, and not go switching QBs around willie-nillie. That’s not going to win any games. KC is solid.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 3:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN!
Collins didn’t cause either one of the losses this season
by pigskinpundits.com on Sep 24, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't help, either.
That’s the problem. You can’t have a game manager when the defense and special teams aren’t playing well. It just doesn’t work.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And....
……“didn’t cause” a loss is a justification that can be used to defend any particular player’s performance in a team sport. You can ALWAYS argue there were other opportunities, and said player should never have had to be put in that position, etc…..
But the fumble at the end of last game did lose for the Titans an otherwise winnable game, regardless of anything else that had happened up to that point; so I continue to argue that (inasmuch as any player can EVER “cost a game”) Collins did indeed, ultimately, cost us the game at the end.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 24, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Vince Young would have won that game, right?
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only way we'd ever know....
….is if he got a chance to prove or disprove it.
We’ll never know the answer now to the question “would Vince Young have won that game?”
All we know for absolute certain is: Collins didn’t.
And whatever the hesitation with Vince, Collins’ performance (as addressed in the title of the thread and subsequent link) has been subpar, and his record in the last 8 starts (equivalent to half of a season) is 2-6.
Regardless, Kerry gets another chance on Sunday to right his ship.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Sep 24, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You continue to pose that question.
And, posture in a way that suggest that Vince will undoubtedly play like shit.
The reality is none of us know. But, it’s not that crazy to expect progression from two years ago. Somehow 2007 is always pointed to as a reason why Vince can’t perform well, as if 2006 never happened.
To answer your question, yes. There is a good chance he would have. Vince is 3-0 against the Texans. In those three games, he accounted for 5 TD’s and 2 INTs, with Norm Chow calling the plays, Lendale White running the ball, and (in 2006) one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will continue to suggest that Vince will play like shit until he proves otherwise.
And he is not going to get that chance until this season is toast, or until he is with another team.
Kerry Collins may not have “done enough” to win that game, but he damn sure didn’t lose it. And to say otherwise is just damn ignorant.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there really a distinction between not "doing enough" to win, and losing?
Kerry had the benefit of playing CJ who had one of the best performances in NFL history. I guess because CJ had a HUGE day, and the defense played awful, Kerry gets a pass for his blunder in the two minute drill?
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not say he gets a pass
But he did not lose that game.
And yes, there is a distinction between not “doing enough” to win and losing. And absolute distinction. Kerry Collins did not do enough to win. The secondary lost the game for us.
Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we arguing semantics here?
I just reread these comments and realized that obviously Kerry Collins lost the game. Chris Johnson lost too. My point is that Kerry Collins was not the reason we lost.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of.
But, here’s what I’m getting at. Kerry had the ball in his hands (briefly), with a chance to win or tie at his own 40. He HAS to find a way to get into scoring position. Especially against a defense that just gave up 31 points. There is no excuse. The loss is on the entire team, but he takes as much blame as anyone for that mistake alone.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't agree
that the defense can sit there and say “that loss is just as much on Kerry Collins as us”
By that same token, the defense can say that it’s just as much on Chris Johnson because he didn’t score every time he touched the ball.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Because that’s not a reasonable expectation.
Look, the defense doesn’t get a pass here. Their performance is inexcusable.
But, when you’re playing a defense that just gave up 31 points and you can’t move the ball 30-40 yards in 2-3 minutes, you’re part of the problem.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's the same thing.
I mean, I guess “not doing enough to win” could result in a tie.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I give. Again.
I don’t know why I keep starting this crap.
It was mostly aimed at Jade Scorpion and he/she’s hairbrained, meth induced comments.
But I don’t think either one of us, Superhorn, is ever gonna agree. But we can continue to disagree amicably.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 24, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree too. i think we need to keep our eye on the ball.
DEFENSE worse. OFFENSE better. oh yeah…DEFENSE worse. I think it trumps everything.
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by stetix01 on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right! That's another huge difference
between KC and VY. With some exceptions (as T-Rac described), KC usually throws excusable interceptions, and VY throws inexcusable ones. Makes all the difference.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 3:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That throw isn't a pick
if Nate Washington has his head up… he never saw it until he’d already gone too far on his crossing route.
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by August West on Sep 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His numbers are not good over the season
They’re unimpressive to begin with, and if you take out Chris Johnson’s 69 yard TD, which was so flukey that any of us could have thrown that touchdown, Collins’ overall stats drop like a rock. That’s not the fairest thing to do because we don’t know how Collins would have played that drive if Houston wasn’t being stupid, but it’s enough to show that his stats are not “very good.”
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 24, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone with an ESPN Insider account...
Wanna pass along the Football Outsiders article that’s behind the pay wall over there…
something about “which Tennessee defender may be aging quickly”
by sablesma on Sep 24, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Numbers don't lie
But after watching the Texans game again, I don’t think he’s playing THAT badly. Just blew it at the end and that really hurts.
I tried to delete my fanpost on the subject, because August is right, it is too early. My only point in that was that IF VY is called upon, I think he’ll do better than some here expect. Good luck to Kerry though.
And yes, Harper is getting old. A shutdown corner should probably be priority #1 heading into next year. How lame was it watching ol’ whats his face a few years ago getting picked on everytime it mattered?
by T the D on Sep 24, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Think He's Played That Badly
The reality is that over the past several years, the Titans Defense has been the weight to swing the balance one way or the other.
Collins, CJ, and the offense have done enough to put us in situations to win. It’s been special teams and defense that have cost both games.
On a side note, I would like to see some specific packages for VY though.
by pigskinpundits.com on Sep 24, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My vote
which doesn’t matter, since Fisher has stopped answering my calls, is that if the season is shaping up to be a bust primarily because the D can’t stop even a kindergarten passer, put VY in regardless of how KC is doing for awhile – even if KC is playing freaking brilliant.
If you’re not making it to the playoffs, why the heck not get some more data to help decide whether VY is a keeper? Heck, KC might like it too. Why wear my old man bones out throwing three touchdowns and 0 interceptions a game if the D gives up 80 regularly. Let the young guy go out and score points fruitlessly instead of me. I’ll just sit over here and read AARP weekly. Call me if a pass defense materializes.
If you can’t tell, weak pass defenses piss me off.
by numbertenox on Sep 24, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
If we don’t get the pass D working better than it is now, then it doesn’t really matter who is at QB.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 5:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The pass D isn't the problem.
It’s the front four. Or scheme, however you want to look at it. The secondary is the same personnel as last year which includes two Pro Bowlers. This defense is designed to get pressure with only the front four. When that goes away, everything crumbles around it.
That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing what Mouton can do.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
front four is part of pass d
I meant the whole thing, not just the secondary coverage. Linebackers too. Jets passing scheme last year really exploited out LB crew.
I’m hoping they tighten up the pass d though. If they don’t, shoot at 1-6 or 2-7 put VY in even if KC is performing fine. We came back from 1-4 to make the playoffs one year, but I think somewhere around 1-5 or 1-6ish you could put a fork in it.
by numbertenox on Sep 24, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2006
We lost the first five games, but came within one game of making the playoffs.
by JimR on Sep 24, 2009 7:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
We only started tearing off wins when Kerry was benched.
by SuperHorn on Sep 24, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that would be some symmetry
VY successful rookie season after terrible start and comes in to relieve Kerry, then the bad couple of years, then having another great season coming in to relieve Kerry again after poor start to season by the team. Good stuff that would be. Unfortunately, if the D doesn’t fix their issues…. not a story line that’s very likely. I think the Patriots knocked us out that year (rubbing Testeverde in our wounds no less), and this year we play them again in week 6.
by numbertenox on Sep 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ancient history
completely different team. in no way relevant to today.
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by hal41605 on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't suggesting anything.
He just tee’d that one up.
But, you’re right. It was a completely different team. There was much less talent on that team, especially on offense. Starting receivers were Drew Bennett and Bobby Wade who both struggled to find teams this year.
by SuperHorn on Sep 25, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won't be talking about this next week
Both Collins and the whole team should have a breakout game against the Jets: Kerry – 350+ yards w/ 0 Ints; score: Titans 31 / Jets 13
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 6:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
If Tom Brady can't play that well against the Jets, it defies logic to expect that Kerry Collins will.
That, coupled with the loss of Haynesworth and Nick Harper’s suddenly advanced age, has this looking like a really rough year. This team could very easily start 1-5.
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by DannoE on Sep 25, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every game
has a different chemistry. The Jets aren’t going to defense KC the same way they did Brady. They’ve got CJ to worry about. Plus, I look for the Titans to be hungry, and the Jets to be overconfident.
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 7:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Jimmy
would be happy about us using MCM to place bets, and who knows what the exact numbers will be. But, I do think that you will see the team as a whole and Collins in particular really gel and take a big step forward this Sunday. Collins is primed for a breakout game.
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Primed huh?
Is the logic that he’s been playing poorly enough that “he’s due”?
Because he’s lost 4 of his last 5 starts. In those 5 starts, he’s thrown 4 TDs, 4 INTs, and lost one unprovoked fumble.
by SuperHorn on Sep 25, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gentlemen's bet then?
Either way, it’s not happening.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
20 MCM-bucks says Collins has a big day, which I would set as at least 325 yards, 2 TDs, no more than 1 Int, and no fumbles. I have to hit on all those numbers. How about that package?
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the value of MCM bucks compared to Schrutebucks?
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by gramsey712 on Sep 25, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same as that of unicorns to leprechauns.
I was really liking the “350+ and no INT’s”, but I’m fine with your counter offer as well.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just say that
the 350/0 numbers were for bold prediction purposes, as opposed to betting purposes. :-)
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
And for the record, I’d love to be wrong on this one. But that Jets D is wicked (full disclosure: I’m starting them this week on my fantasy team) and I’ve lost faith in Collins being a QB that can go out and win a game.
Lost in all of the VY vs Collins chatter has been the fact that it’s not an either/or proposition. It’s a very real posibility that they both suck.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000
Just because you don’t think Vince is capable of leading the team, doesn’t mean that you need to expect great things out of Kerry.
by SuperHorn on Sep 25, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get behind that.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 25, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And thus the 3rd Party was born in Tennessee Titans Politics:
The Ramsey fans.
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I never knew I had fans....
other than Big Tuna.
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by gramsey712 on Sep 25, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kerry hasn't thrown for over 300 yards since 2005, 35 games ago.
And he’s only thrown for 350+ and zero INTs once in his entire career. To put that in perspective, he’s played in 187 games in his career. Which means that he throws for over 350 yards and 0 INTs 0.5% of the time.
I don’t like your odds.
by SuperHorn on Sep 25, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize it was that bad.
Can I up my purely theoretical bet now?
Also, look at Brady’s numbers from last week:
23-47 (Less that 50%? Really?), 216 Yds., 0 TD’s, 1 INT. And that’s Tom F-ing Brady! Jets D is sick.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady is not the Tom Brady we knew pre-injury
He’s a lot more like Peyton at the beginning of last year: still unsure of his knee and visibly worried about taking another hit there. Plus Wes Welker didn’t play in that game, and that’s his real life-line.
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by August West on Sep 25, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked pretty sure of himself on those
TD’s to beat Buffalo. He’s not 50 TD’s Tom Brady, but he’s still one of the top 5 QB’s in the league. And Revis is the best corner in football right now. What he did to Johnson and Moss in successive weeks is amazing.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! Remember
that the bet is down to 325/1.
Most of this is just based on the fact that I think that the Titans are going to bounce back in a big way on Sunday. Everybody is panicking way too much over a couple of three point losses. If I’m wrong, and we do lose to the Jets, then I’ll start running around screaming “the sky is falling” like everybody else.
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS
I think: 1) the Jets are overrated, 2) they are not going to tee- off on KC the way they did on Brady. Their D plan for us will focus on CJ, leaving Collins to have a big day. So, I’m already spending my MCM bucks now. Plus, I am donating some to August since Jimmy docked his pay for posting this thread in the first place.
by JimR on Sep 25, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Jets as a team are overrated,
but not their defense. Sanchez will have his difficulties eventually, and I think the Titans D will make it tough on him by shutting down the run.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Vs. a team with a pass rush, he’d be vulnerable. Unfortunately, this year’s Titans team doesn’t have any pass rush, which is why I think the Titans will not win this game. Well, that and the fact that the Texans basically stoned the Titans offense in the second half last week, minus a single long running play.
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by DannoE on Sep 25, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fornumla worked last week, why wouldn't
the Jets pressure Collins all day on Sunday? I know C.J is in the backfield and needs to be accounted for but I would send everybody if it worked on the best QB in the NFL. Make Collins work for it and hopefully put up some big numbers.
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by Joy kat on Sep 25, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
350 yards is not going to happen, but 240 with 2 td passes is very acceptable
as long as it brings a win.
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by Joy kat on Sep 25, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My prediction for Collins...
190 Yds, 1 TD, 2 INT’s.
by ctex80 on Sep 25, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! This could be the start of a new
MCM weekly feature. Jimmy could give us some place to log all our pre-game predictions, and then whoever gets closest would win 10,000 MCM bucks. Whadaya think? Should we start lobbying for this?
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