2 Freaking Turnovers. In football one “oh shit” can overcome 10 “atta boy’s”, especially an INT returned for a TD deep in your own territory. He cost us 14 points on those two turnovers and got 7 on his one good drive. I don’t like brushing over turnovers with him because that’s his big problem. If he cuts out turnovers he is still the starter. So to me, it’s still Vince being Vince, and that’s not good.

and gift wrapped pick 6’s are not props worthy.

You are not going to give up props for turnovers. But that’s not what I am looking for. Read my post. I just think that if we are so quick to criticize the bad stuff (myself included) then we should give credit in the areas it is due.

that VY has improved pick six or not its good to see he’s not letting somethings get to him any more now we just have to do the fan booing test and see what happens

Was not that VY played well, rather he made some strides in the areas he struggled in. I did not mention turnovers as one of those areas as he still is struggling in that area. The fumble I will excuse personally cause that is a playmaker trying to make a play. (it was a wrong decision on his part, but if he had scored nobody would be on here saying that was too risky he should have thrown that ball!) A fumble on a play like that could happen to anybody.

The point of this post was to highlight some positives and to see others opinions. I got the opinions that honestly I expected. Im not downing anybody cause we are all a part of the same family here. VY is just one of my favorites and when I see some good things I will talk about them. I am also a realist so when I see some bad things I will talk about them also. He has a way to go, but nearly as far as he had in 07 or the begining of 08.

Bash me if you want but I still have not given up hope for VY. He will never be a Manning or a Brady, but given time he might be something that none of us expected something this league insists can not work. A mobile QB with the ability to get the job done with his arm when needed. That could be very tough to game plan around.

But for the first time since 2006, he does seem to look like he’s at least not lost of there. I can just see in on his face and it just looks like he’s more conformable. The turnovers are bad. Agreed. But I was scared to death for VY to play last year. This year- not so much.

but it seems like this pre season he has been very up and down; making some great throws that make you think he could be our guy again and making some throws that make me want to pull my hair out and slap him across the face. I really have no idea whether the coaching staff sees enough potential in him left to be our future QB when Kerry retires, but I trust Fisher to make the right decision.

I wonder if this board will be as tough on Collins as it is on VY. It’s amazing how little scrutiny Collins gets. He had a ‘great’ year at less than a 56% completion rate despite the addition with CJ and his extensive NFL experience. But I guess that’s what Fisher wants is nothing more than a game manager. It also seems to be good enough for this board. We were spoiled last year by a schedule that turned out to be weak and a strong defense. I think the defense is going to have a tougher time of it this year and the offense is going to be called on to do more than just hang on. That is when I’ll become a Collins convert; if he can weather the storm when it comes. Sure, VY has made some mistakes and some have been tough to watch, but the attitude toward VY here is not a “preseason” mentality. Quite frankly, I think it is a good thing that Vince has experienced the mistakes in these PRESEASON games and still been able to focus on learning the offense. If the critics here cannot see the improvement in VY from last year to now, you’re not looking very objectively. He’s actually making reads, gaining confidence, throwing crisper and moving forward after a stumble. His confidence is not where it needs to be yet. The fumble a the goal line resulted from just that tiny bit of doubt as he was not fully commited to that run. It just lacked that bit of conviction that a fully confident VY would show . . . and he paid for it.

should have an NFL fan blog especially devoted to vince young. call it “Texans in Denial”

Is that the QB talent around the NFL is thin. A team like Washington (where Jason Campbell looks to be the starter) would snap up VY in an instant as would many others. Meanwhile, there are plenty on this board who would run VY out of town. Be careful what you ask for. You may need him to be confident and prepared sooner than you think. IMO, chasing off Vince would be a mistake.

Is into extravaganza and selling high-priced tickets. He’d pull the pull the trigger on Vince in a heartbeat. He’d also spend like a demon if the NFL lifted the cap. He has the second most valuable NFL franchise and an ego to match Jerry Jones’.