Tennessee Titans Morning Links: This Wouldn't Have Happened On Howard Cosell's Watch Edition
by August West on Aug 10, 2009 8:56 AM CDT
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Paul Kuharsky has a slew of posts on the Titans, Alge's weight, Nickey's in-poor-taste headshot and VY's chance to change his reputation.
Jim Wyatt weighs in on Vince Young's mixed bag of a performance last night (horrible INT, beautiful lob into the end zone) and looks at Kerry Collins and Patrick Ramsey as well.
Maybe I'm alone on this one, but last night turning into a Tony Dungy interview with the Titans game going on in the background annoyed the bajeezus out of me. Then he starts shilling for that degenerate dog killer/gambler, and I was done. Dungy was a great coach, and by most accounts a pretty good guy (and I understand that goes up a bump if you're into the religious thing), but why do I have to hear more from the man after he's retired? I mean if NBC is dead set on doing an in-booth interview why wouldn't you line-up a few of the new members of the Hall of Fame instead of a recently retired coach?
Follow us through the jump to find-out why Ben Roethlisberger isn't liked in his own locker room...
Here's a big ole' FAIL for those who thought Kerry was going to be terrible this year simply because he was so solid last year. Kerry looked even more comfortable driving the offense last night, which should take a little pressure off of a defense that was letting the Bills drive down the field.
For those who didn't catch it or just want to see it again, here's video of the fake punt and touchdown run by A.J. Trapasso from last night. I loved that call because teams will fear our special teams trickeration all season now, even if we don't call another fake this year.
Houston folks still not liking our boys wearing the throwback unis.
In my favorite blind item round-up, via PFW, sources within the Steelers locker room say Ben Roethlisberger is not a popular guy at all and is seen as 'arrogant and lazy'.
If there's anything you would like to share with the MCM community, please take advantage of the comments, fanshots and fanposts to do so! Or, you can always email me at mcmaugustwest@gmail.com.
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Hey August...
…you’re wrong about the Defense letting Buffalo drive down the field all night. I mean, I thought that, too, until the Griffin interception, and then I realized that it was just the classic “bend but don’t break” Defense that the team plays all the time. That’s what they do. They let you drive with dinks and dunks and then either stiffen at the goal-line or go for the INT when you get impatient and try to go long. Last night we saw both the INT and a pair of nice goal-line stands, and that was just in the first half!
Plus, look, VY’s play gave the Bills a short field TWICE in the first half. All in all, that was an excellent Defensive performance.
DannoE
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Agreed
It was like that all last year too. Strong D, making them work for the 3rd, and then really bearing down in the red zone. Secondary looked a little flat footed, but I think they showed up when it counted. (who was it that totally got juked by the short pass to the Buffalo WR, i believe in the 3rd Q?)
The run D looked great, should silence all that Haynesworth talk, just need to stay healthy and keep the energy down the stretch.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was u-g-l-y
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
VY
Man penalties gave the bills a short field twice why people always want to blame VY dang there was a Holding call on the return and one one the run play that put them on like the 5 yard line that had nothing to do with VY! Plus there was a few drop passes also! People just see what they wanna see I guess!
by datboybevans on Aug 10, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
A turnover gave the Bills a short field...
…and a three-and-out gave the Bills a short field. In fact, in the First Half, there was only one or maybe two penalties total.
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I don't like our guys wearing Oiler uniforms either.
I was not an Oiler fan, I am a Titan fan.
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On a personal level I agree with you Gramsey
I never cared about the Oilers and never have.
But on the other hand they did spend time in Tennessee as the Oilers. Hell, our Coach was hired as coach of the Oilers. So it isn’t completely ridiculous for us to wear Oiler uniforms.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Aug 10, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Tennessee Oilers would be fine. I have a Tennessee Oiler McNair jersey.
But I have no connection with our coaches and players wearing Houston Oiler hats and tshirts.
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AFL 50th anniversary, c'mon now.....
how could you let that go over your head??? and a couple of the founding teams…the buffalo bills and the HOUSTON OILERS….are a big part of that. how can you have no connection? you root for the titans right? how about a little recognition for the team that gave tennessee the team we all love, thats why they wear em in case that went over your head too, because the titans are formerly the . i guess me coming from houston its a little different, i personally love seeing the old schools brought out for this season. but like i said, i guess thats just me.
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It's not going "over my head," there brainchild.
I just have no love for the city of Houston.
The city of Houston did not give me anything. Bud Adams brought his football team here.
So, yeah, I guess it’s only you.
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just as long....
as you know why theyre wearing the uniforms. because if you did, then there wouldnt have been any reason for the questioning. but its all good, houston will ALWAYS be in affiliation with the tennessee titans. that’s why i live in the best of both worlds as a titans fan and texans fan (save your breathe/shots about the texans, you won’t tell me anything i dont already know)
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
It is impossible to be a fan
of 2 teams in the same division.
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it'll happen....
im living proof. how it goes is…i root for both my teams when they dont play eachother, but i do get torn in between the two when they face off twice a year, thats the only time it gets hectic. but its easy to root for any team to beat the colts and jags. lol
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
once vy is gone
will you still care about the titans? cuz ive got a good feeling that a lot of “texas first, vy second, titans third” fans around here will be headed for the exits with their boy once he get cut next offseason.
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by hal41605 on Aug 10, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not that you asked me.
But, I’m in this for the long haul.
pucker up.....
buttercup.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
unlike you
superhorn is able to balance his texas loyalties with logic and intelligence. that makes him a valuable member of this blog. your inability to do those things is what makes you worthless and annoying.
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titans all the way....
no bulls**t. i root for vince young the person, not because hes from houston, not because he went to UT, because he rose above alot of things that normal ppl dont have to overcome, and he did it with flying colors. he did it with madison blue (h.s.), burnt orange and im just hopin he can do it in titans blue. but i dont base my love for the titans because VY is there QB, that was just a plus, i root for the titans because….that’s my team. and if we would have spent the money for the oilers to get a new stadium they would have never left, but since they did. Go Titans
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
I was an oilers fan, so I love the fact that they are wearing those uniforms...
most of the fans in houston gave up on the team the last year they were there…i’m not saying they didn’t have a reason to hate bud adams..but attendance was beyond horrible in 1996. bud adams is the one constant for this organization, it’s his team….he can do whatever he wants as far as the throwbacks and team’s history. if houston would have supported the oilers and built them a stadium, they would still be there. i know there are other factors involved….but i personally love the throwbacks….LOVE THEM! luv ya blue!
Im gonna say watching us have a moving passing game that first and second drive gave me goosebumps.
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by MrNorhtNashville on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
I'm with you on that.
Nate Washington showed flashes of the speedster we’ve needed at WR, and Crumpler actually looked pretty comfortable catching a ball again (and holding onto it), instead of just blocking. Ahhh, if only that had happened in the playoff game last year.
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I COMPLETELY agree on the Dungy thing. We (my friends and I) bitched about it last night while watching the game. The line of the night from one of my friends was: “I’d rather watch a dog fight than listen to Dungy talk about his rehab with Vick.”
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by T--Rac's Posse on Aug 10, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
that's hilarious
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by August West on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
no kidding
that interview was annoying, PARTICULARLY when at the end, Dungy picked INDY to win the division!! They didn’t even ask him how far behind the Titans were to make him defend himself!
im not positive.... but im prettty sure
that dungy said he picks indi to win the division “again”…. I thought that was a slap in the face as when someone says that it usually means that they won it the last time around…. which they didint, casue we did. i HATE the colts. grrrr
I think he meant "again", as in he always picks them to win. Like Collinsworth loves his Bungles.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone calm down.
Vince didn’t play well last night. He didn’t play terribly either.
1. The INT.
It was a missed route, but still a ball that probably shouldn’t have been thrown. In any event, let’s at least point out that Kerry tried his best to throw an INT as well when he nearly hit an opponent in the chest with a pass.
2. It’s the preseason. And, it’s the backups.
The generic response, “well he was playing against backups.” Garbage. Even if we’ve improved, I still think our WR core is in the bottom 10 of the NFL. What does that say about our backups? Kerry completed a whopping 37% of his passes last preseason. Let that set in…37%. That obviously had little bearing on how he performed in the regular season.
3. Chris Johnson
His impact on this offense cannot be overstated. I hope that Vince gets some reps with the first team. Just having this guy on the field makes the QB’s job that much easier.
plus points.....
for hitting the bullseye. good analysis bro, couldnt have put it better. let VY get some time with the first team and see how that goes, playing with the first team does make the QB position easier. especially with the blocking that we have (feels good to say that).
Pro-VY. waiting for his time to shine.
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"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
haha.....
still bitter i see.
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"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
VY was playing AGAINST second stringers too...
You think if he plays against the first teams that he will do better?
The whole reason of him being second string is to see if he can outplay the OTHER second strings, if he can’t why give him time with the first team?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
patrick ramsey
was playing with 3rd and 4th stringers, didn’t stop him from looking like he actually had a clue of what was going on and completing 8 of 10 passes. WAY too many people around here still seeing VY’s world through Rose Bowl colored glasses.
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and....
why not. he comes in for HALF a season his rookie year, to take over Kerry Collins job, and leads us just short of the playoffs. then next year, although not all pretty, led us to the playoffs. something that hadnt been done since #9 (rip) departed. and then his 3rd year, altbeit what happened happened but only had the chance to play in that one game, and hasnt had the chance to come back since. not to take anything away from KC, he did a great job last year. but VY did not have the offensive weapons that KC has the luxury of having now, all im saying is how about we get something legit to go on before casting him out (perhaps a full season to play, history shows he may get us into the playoffs)
and about playing with and supposed to be beating 2nd and 3rd stringers, ramseys been in the league for 7 years now, so he should have slinged about 3 or 4 TD’s last night, is that what your saying? patrick ramsey haha…c’mon. ppl must really hate VY to be putting him on a pedestal.
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"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
no one hates vy
i just have a brain and two eyes that work and i’m not in denial or from the state of texas.
you are right, ramsey is nothing special. what does it say when “nothing special” easily out preforms your boy, who has yet to show any improvement whatsoever over the last 3 years?
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You are putting Vince on a pedestal man. I also said nothing about Ramsey.
You are delusional. And by the way, the only UT that is relevant to me is the University on Tennessee, not Texas.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Doh. Of*
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
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VY did not have the offensive weapons that KC has the luxury of having now
The only weapon KC had last year that Vince did not the years previous was CJ. Yes… CJ is a huge weapon, but with that being said, CJ would not have changed teh fact that vince threw almost double as many interceptions as he did touchdowns.
In the NFL when you have your chance you have to take advantage of it, regardless of who you have around you. Vince did not do that, and KC did.
Vince will get another shot, and we will see what he does with it. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I think his next shot will come outside of nashville.
Thank You SuperHorn for breaking that down seem like alot of these guys watched the game with their eyes clothes!
Yea VY int play he had a bad mike and look like the reciever ran a bad route!
by datboybevans on Aug 10, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Eyes Clothes?
What newspaper comment section did you come from?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Three things
Did it seem to anyone that the O-Line just didn’t protect Vince as well? I don’t know if thats personality or uncomfortable or what but it was odd.
I absolutely hated the Dungy thing. I also hated the constant Haynesworth talk and then the Cutler talk even though they could just shut up and talk about it next week. They also did a terrible job cutting away to Dungy even though there were flags and didn’t even bother to say by the way that was a holding.
All the holding was disturbing.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, he didn't seem like he had nearly as much time.
But, he also didn’t seem totally comfortable in there, and commanding enough. Ramsey looked better in that respect. But like SuperHorn said above, he didnt play well, but he didn’t play terribly. He wasn’t given as much to work with, and I didn’t care for some of the play calling at the point either.
The holding will work itself out. And the offsides im sure.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah shoot, I just noticed the Elaine Bennis comment, and about lost it.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
Feelings are mutual...
Whenever I buy Titans gear, I make sure that it doesn’t have Tennessee on it.
That's interesting
Since your profile says you are a TENNESSEE TITAN fan. Why are you here?
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You seem offended...
Why? You just said that you have no love for the city of Houston or the Oilers. So why are you bothered that I don’t buy any Titans gear with Tennessee on it? Seems equal to me.
Not equal there crazy
I was not a Houston Oiler fan. I am a Tennessee fan. You were a Houston Oiler fan. There have never been Houston Titans. There has only been Titans in Tennessee (and New York, before that is your next ignorant statement, but New York is not Tennessee) SO since I have never been a Houston Oiler fan, and Houston did not “give” a team to Tennessee, I do not care about Houston Oiler merchandise. I care about Tennessee Titan merchandise. SO I am not “bothered” that you do not buy any Titans gear with Tennessee on it, you can be a fool all you want, but it is not equal. Not even close.
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I am not saying that they shouldn’t wear it—if you have been a fan of both, that’s fine, more power to you. I was just stating that I do not care about the Houston Oilers. That is all.
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Yeah…u were annoyed.
I’m a fan of the team. I could care less where they play. That is the reason that I specifically don’t get gear with Tennessee on it.
Fan of the franchise
Ok…let me be civil even though you came out blasting with “ignorant” “fool” statements.
I’m a fan of the franchise. If they moved to Kentucky tomorrow and changed their name to the Wildcatters. I would follow the Wildcatters. It’s that simple for me.
I’m not the exception either.
You are not the exception, cause I probably would too.
But I would be a fan of the Kentucky Wildcatters. Not just the Wildcatters.
Again, I did not say that you shouldn’t be a fan of the team because they have moved, or cherish your fanhood from Houston, but I was not an Oiler fan until they became the Tennessee Oilers. Therefore (see my original statement) I do not care about the Houston Oilers or their uniforms. If you do, that’s fine.
It is just stupid to say that you are a Titan fan, not a Tennessee Titan fan.
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I'm a fan of the New York Titans.
I like them much better now that a certain over-the-hill Peter-King_crony has left the building.
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So you just hate Tennessee?
I’m not sure i understand. You are probably being irrational to only buy stuff that doesn’t say Tennessee.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
How's that?
How’s it irrational…I don’t care where they play. I’m not promoting the city/state. I’m promoting the franchise.
The team really shouldn’t be called Tennessee anyway. It should be called Nashville. It was only named Tennessee for marketing. Just like the lame Texans think naming their team the Texans, they can get non-Cowboy fans….incredibly lame.
im sorry.....
did u say something?
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Kevin Vickerson
looked like the new Albert Haynesworth.
Larry Birdline was awesome too.
i think.....
he can come out of the shadows to be a dominant DL.
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Titans Special Teams still own the Buffalo Bills
they never learn
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by Pinoy Titan on Aug 10, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ahahaha +1
Silly Bills, Tricks are for Titans.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 10, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
hey guys!
KBull53 streaming live in 5 minutes.
… somebody please open a separate VY debate thread.
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yeah, stream was short though
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You still have to
Hear from Dungy cuz a lot of people value his opinions on a lot of subjects and for good reason.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Aug 10, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions
@titansradio Jeff Fisher says Vince Young may start a preseason game in order to see him with first team offense
by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 10, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
that would be a very smart move
an old guy like collins doesn’t need 5 preseason games and vince sure as hell does.
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I'm not sure i want to see him play against starting defenses
But i’ll give it the benefit of the doubt.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
for better or worse
they need to know exactly what they have in Vince Young. also less chance for collins to get hurt.
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Completely agree.
Collins is nothing if not a known quantity. He could put in two more quarters of work total in the preseason, and I’d be happy. Let VY play!
DannoE
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I guess I could have gone without seeing the old oilers helmets.
I actually liked the Houston Oilers back when the team was there. However Tennessee is now where they reside so I don’t see the need to go retro when the franchise has been uprooted. Should the fans all wear M.C. Hammer parachute pants to watch the game? I don’t think so.
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Actually...
I would love to see that!
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
by Michaeltastic on Aug 10, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
See this is the crap that I'm talking about...
When Warren Moon was honored at a game during the season…i heard all of these types of rumblings.
Trying to ignore that the Titans came from somewhere else is never going to go away so start dealing with it.
Well on that note
Trying to ignore that the Titans are in TENNESSEE now is never going to go away so start dealing with it.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I became a Titans fan when they moved to Tennessee.
First live game (and only live game) I’ve seen was when they were still in Memphis. I’ve never been too interested in the previous history of the Titans, but I have to say these uniforms, the anniversary, and even this blog have made me more proud of the history we came from.
And to be honest, with the loss of Steve, I don’t think it could have come at a better time.
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by Pride of the Southland on Aug 11, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you really think that people who follow the Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers care about Dallas or Pittsburgh?? Those that never lived there??
Yes, if they ever want to go to a game.
You don’t fully support the franchise if you won’t buy anything with Tennessee on it. Plain and simple. You are some hybrid of fan and hater that is completely useless.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 10, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When did i ever say how long i was a fan of the team?
You assume too much. And you are the useless fan because you claim loyalty to a franchise when you won’t even buy things that have their current name on them. Please.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 11, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
So how long have you been a fan??
Go ahead and make something up about how long you’ve been a fan.
I buy plenty of merchandise with Titans on it. It’s not hard either. Heck the Jerseys don’t even say Tennessee!
Please get off your high horse.
The elitism in here is stifling.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 11, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought...
Funny, I’m the elitist but you called me useless. I never questioned your loyalty…you questioned mine. Yeah, u were shocked that you couldn’t find the name Tennessee on the entire uniform. You can admit it..
On the sideline caps.
It did look really weird. I could have seen “Tennessee Oilers” but “Houston Oilers” was entirely strange.
DannoE
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Do our sideline caps not say Tennessee on em?
smash will find me a picture I am sure.
Seeing Kenny Britt in a Houston Oilers tshirt really gave me pause as well.
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ive been a loyal one team never changed teams fan since the days of dan pastorini. earl cambell ect ect
its when somebody sees me in my titans windbreaker in the mall and thinks i just jumped on board being a titans fan since they did good last y ear is what trips me out.
so seeing the oilers uniforms was ok, i didnt get offended cus they wore it, i was like hey for us old timer fans that have been through alot of ups and downs over the decades it was kind of nice for a change,
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