My Observations on Vince Young's E:60 Piece

by Jimmy on Jul 29, 2009 9:09 AM CDT in Commentary Comment 22 comments

In case you missed the piece last night:

My observations after the jump.

I still don't understand why he decided to do this now. It was mentioned that the Titans declined the request to comment in the piece, and it is pretty obvious to me that it is because they have decided to move on. Vince should too.

I don't understand the whole "organization should have supported me more" and "Coach Fisher became just my boss stuff." Is he saying that because he feels like he should have been named the starter when he was healthy again or was there something else behind the scenes that we don't know about? It comes off as extremely childish if it is the first.

August mentioned it in the links this morning, and we have talked about it before that even, but Albert Haynesworth needs to just move on with his life. It couldn't be more hypocritical of him to talk about falling out of grace with this organization and not being able to get back in good favor. In case he has forgotten, he committed the most egregious act ever performed on a football field, and this organization stood behind him the whole way.

It broke my heart a little bit to hear that Coach Fisher had asked Steve McNair to help Vince in camp this season. I have long wished that McNair could have stayed here Vince's rookie year as the starter, mentored him for that season, and then retired after the season handing the reigns over to VY. The fact that Fisher asked McNair to help VY this year makes me think that maybe they haven't given up on him just yet.

I liked the way the piece ended. It seemed to me at the end Vince was finally starting to get it. It will be interesting to see if the extra work he has been putting in pays off once camp starts.

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I really enjoy e:60 .

no comment on vince however..i hope for the best for the team whatever that is

This is OUR Year!...

by titansfan615 on Jul 29, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think VY did it cuz

he really has not spoken out about it like this publicly in an exclusive interview like this. I like how they had three seperate sessions of interviews where you saw a change in VY saying Fisher was just a boss to him to McNair’s death bringing them a lot closer.

Sadly its very apparent that Vince has been babied through-out his football career and when he got to the Titans that changed. I think we all forget the crap that goes on in our daily life that we don’t realize that it can be intensified as a pro athlete and they are still required to perform at a high level every sunday. Vince definitly needs to become more of a man and deal with reality of an adult life which I think he has after seeing this interview. So I’m excited to see how this season goes for him because I think he will get a shot to prove himself.

Hopefully we can lay all this drama behind us from now on. Great job by Michael Smith.

by SoCalTitan on Jul 29, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Vince Young piece

You know what?
I am so sick and tired of hearing about Vince Young and how big of a baby the guy is. Kerry Collins Is our quarterback, period. The guy lead us to the best record in the league last year, you can talk about the running game all you want, but who led us to wins over Baltimore, Indianapolis, Chicago, Jacksonville, and Pittsburgh. In all of these games the running game either sputtered or was just stopped cold. Vince Young might not even be good enough to beat out Patrick Ramsey, the guy is done in Tennessee. Let’s not even mention how well Kerry Collins picked apart Baltimore’s D in the playoff game, and if it weren’t for the refs not calling the delay of game or Crumpler holding on to that ball near the goal line. Vince Young gave up on his team last year, and Kerry Collins came in and in that moment became our quarterback. That’s it, i don’t really want a guy on my team that gave up, because he couldn’t handle some boos. What are the critics going to say to this, “don’t forget that collins committed a similar act back in 1998 with the panters”. Yea i’m aware, but he redeemed himself, coming back to join the Giants leading them to a super bowl. Kerry Collins is our quarterback, and that’s all there is to it.

You're not wrong walter, you're just an asshole.

by collinzoober5 on Jul 29, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so what your saying is...

you want VY to comeback and lead another team to the super bowl instead of the titans?? i appreciate what KC did for us last year, but hes only got two years and then what? id rather have vince over ramsey any day, it is what it is with vince but nobody has seen what hes gonna do the second time around once he has the reigns again. so ppl need to see first before they make their opinion, personally i like how VY has been as of late, he doesnt just want to ride the bench and collect his $$. he wants to get out there again and play. say what you want about VY about his numbers, his mental state, whatever. but all in all how bout you look at the wins and losses column and see how those numbers are.

remember….he went through the same type of deal at texas when he lost his 2 games at texas, and once everything was situated and takin care of…he didnt lose again and brought us home a national championship, i strongly believe that he is more than capable of deja vu…talent of that caliber doesnt just disappear, also it was hard for us to get back into the playoffs once air mcnair(RIP) left and we didnt get back until vince took over….for half a season! 100% behind Vince, hope he proves all the haters wrong….in titans blue.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"

by kg_2005 on Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're speculating

Vince Young gave up on his team last year, and Kerry Collins came in and in that moment became our quarterback. That’s it, i don’t really want a guy on my team that gave up, because he couldn’t handle some boos.

And, Vince even addressed it in the interview saying he just was collecting his thoughts. No coaches or players have explicitly said he quit on the team. You’re obviously entitled to your opinion about whether he’s lying or not. But, at this point, the whole “quitting on the team” thing is not based on fact.

by SuperHorn on Jul 29, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're denying

maybe “quit on the team” is too strong, but i was in the stadium and i saw the commotion on the sideline, including fisher sprinting over when the team tried to take the field and vince still had his head in his hands on the bench. the crowd was wrong to turn on vince and boo him like that (simply because it didn’t help anything), but to pretend like “i was collecting my thoughts” explains it all away is laughable. he was moping on the bench because he has never had to deal with hard times like that, and that’s semi-understandable except that a guy entering his 3rd season should be above that kind of rookie fragility if he means to be a franchise QB.

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by hal41605 on Jul 29, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I'm saying

Is that I think that’s a silly reason to give up on the guy since we don’t really know what went on. That all.

by SuperHorn on Jul 29, 2009 9:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

by the way....

anybody know when/if this is going to re-air. didnt have the chance to catch it.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"

by kg_2005 on Jul 29, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

um...see that video up there?

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by hal41605 on Jul 29, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

computer here at work doesnt have flash and wont d/l it....

so no. i dont.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"

by kg_2005 on Jul 30, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didnt watch

and I dont plan on watching. I just cant read or watch anything VY-related anymore.

I'M DISRESPECTFUL TO DIRT!! CAN YOU SEE THAT I AM SERIOUS?
GET OUT OF MY WAY, ALL OF YOU. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR LOAFERS. JOIN ME OR DIE. CAN YOU DO ANY LESS?

by TitanFan2K on Jul 29, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah, yeah

I agree with some of these comments. The past is behind us. it doesn’t do a lot of good for VY to say that the organization didn’t support him enough. Kerry did a great job last season, but his window is closing. VY has so much potential. Working with McNair would have helped his game immensely. he has so much natural athleticism. You can’t ignore those gifts, Fisher just needs to figure out how to get this guy to work in his system. it’s the QB coaches’ job to get the QB’s to work.

having a seasoned and capable veteran starting QB in KC is great. And if we’ve got uber-talented VY waiting to do his thing, we could be in much worse shape.

At least there are no rumors of Michael Vick coming to Nashville.

by titansfan_mtnman on Jul 29, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I feel for vince

and I still have some faith in him. He just needs to stay behind collins and watch if he wants to be the starter he has to earn it. He’s mad at fisher because his job was taken by a quaterback that played better than him what sense does that make?!?!?!

Que Where?!?!

by SouthTexasTitan on Jul 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

about vy

the win and loss record had less to do with vince young’s play, and more to do with a solid defense and a solid running game. Yea the guy made some very spectacular plays, but he will never lead a team to the super bowl. He doesn’t have that “it” factor, he’s not much of a leader, and he’s not that good of a passer. Who cares if he can make plays with his feet if he can’t consistently get the ball downfield to his receivers. Kerry Collins makes all the throws, stands up and delivers. The passing offense will be in the top 10 this season, and good riddance to vy next year.

You're not wrong walter, you're just an asshole.

by collinzoober5 on Jul 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry

What football have you been watching?

Kerry Collins makes all the throws, stands up and delivers.

What are you smoking? Look say what you want about Vince, but Kerry will never be anything better than a game manager. That’s fine, and it suits the team. But, let’s not get carried away here.

by SuperHorn on Jul 29, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moreover

the win and loss record had less to do with vince young’s play, and more to do with a solid defense and a solid running game.

Can’t the same be said of Kerry?

He doesn’t have that "it" factor

Kerry does?

by SuperHorn on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know you love Vince Young

But the fact is he didn’t want to return to that game. I don’t buy this collecting thoughts nonsense. And he did make those comments that Fisher was only his boss. The fact is he was never taught to be a quarterback in college, he was allowed to be a running quarterback. His reading is terrible. His sidearming is unbearable. We don’t get mentioned for Vick because he have a younger version of Vick on our bench already. I’ll get behind him 100% when he learns to be an NFL quarterback, and doesn’t just try to get by on being a college quarterback. It’s different.

Who doesn't want to be a promiscuous dope fiend?

by BonzosMontreaux on Jul 29, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All this I can deal with

At least it’s logical. But pretending that Kerry is anything more than an average game managing quarterback is a stretch, which is all the post above points out.

by SuperHorn on Jul 29, 2009 9:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Kerry is a little better than average, but not much

And i’m ok with that as long as we win games.

Who doesn't want to be a promiscuous dope fiend?

by BonzosMontreaux on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys notice...

He doesn’t know the day that training camp begins?

But hey at least he’ll be there one day before everyone else.

by palpacino on Jul 29, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

th elast 15 seconds or so is when he says it..

by palpacino on Jul 29, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

there was a time.....

when ppl were ready to give KC the boot for Vince, and nobody was complaining there. face it, things just didnt work out under chows rule. and the reason KC is prospering is because he’s working under dinger’s system again, that’s why our passing O has the chance to be in the top 10. not to take anything from collins, he did all the right things to get us by. but lets remember, vince didnt have alot of time under dingers system, he did not have the luxury of CJ as a threat in the backfield, alot of things that contributed to KC’s success. yeah Vince burned himself on how he acted but he did not have a chance to bounce back, unfortunately soon after he went down with the injury, he just got the short end of the stick. i would like to see VY play under dinger’s system and with the caliber WR’s were going into the season with..it works well with the type of player VY is a run first pass 2nd QB like the late great air mcnair….and b4 everybody starts firing off let me say this…there will NEVER be another steve mcnair.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"

by kg_2005 on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs