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Guide To Cutting Vince Young, For Dummies

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Paul Kuharsky of ESPN.com has a table with the definitive cap implications should the Titans retain or cut VY now or during the remaining three years of his contract.

So if we cut VY after the upcoming season, the Titans will gain $9.29 million on the cap over keeping him?  That's a Keith Bulluck and a Boom King right there with room to spare...

If VY makes it through the draft and training camp - then manages to regain the starting spot during the season - you'll still probably see this contract get torn up and reworked at the end of the season because there's no way he's worth a $14.21 million cap hit.  However, if VY is still in this situation after the 2009 season, then there is ZERO chance he stays a Titan.

Zero.

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I don't understand. What's the problem with Vince?

I understand he hasn’t been a great passer but he’s won games for you hasn’t he? I’m just trying to understand why he went from Pro Bowl QB to Madden 07 coverboy to bust and a third stringer…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 8, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

He still has defenders

amongst Titans fans, but not a bunch.

Reasons:
   - after Rookie season, the “wow” run factor stopped. Arguments rise as to whether this was Norm Chow’s fault, Vince’s fault, after-effect of injury, or just teams figured him out. Any way you cut it though, he stopped pulling off the amazing jaw dropping runs.
   - his passing sucked after his rookie season. Lots of interceptions, lots of apparent miscommunications with receivers.
   - first game of this past season he quit on the team in the middle of a game and had a major baby tantrum and meltdown. This is probably a bigger reason for his fall from grace than first two points.

by numbertenox on Apr 8, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randall Cunningham/Jim McMahon

I like VY.

But sometimes, history just repeats itself. A long time ago, both Randall and McMahon were in Philadelphia. Randall was profiled in Sports Illustrated as “Robo QB.” Jim was somewhat broken down physically.

And yet, even though Cunningham was ten times the physical speciman that McMahon was, a large percentage of the team wanted McMahon under center. Why?

McMahon was a great team leader. Randall, not so much. Also, McMahon was head and shoulders above Cunningham when it came to reading defenses.

Having a QB who can escape the pocket and run like a great RB is great. However, all of VY’s considerable physical skills mean little without leadership skills and the ability to read defenses.

I live in Phoenix. Midway through last season, a number of Cardinal offensive players said that this was the biggest difference between Leinart & Warner: Warner knew better and quicker who the open receiver would be on any given play. A split second difference in the passing game is huge.

by GeoMak on Apr 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there any documentation out there on what we have left under the cap for 2009?

And is that 2.76 no matter if cut OR traded? Or is it a different amount if traded?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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by gramsey712 on Apr 8, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

true

The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.

by hal41605 on Apr 8, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope Springs Eternal

Only one more year and he is more than likely gone. That’s such wonderful news.

http://t-racsposse.blogspot.com

by T--Rac's Posse on Apr 8, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

a gret example of why rookie contracts desperately need reform

top choice qbs get a contract that basically assumes they will become a pro-bowl quality starter before they even attend training camp. that’s a completely ridiculous assumption. it’s like the top 5 picks are now some twisted form of high stakes gambling for teams that generally can’t afford to gamble.

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by hal41605 on Apr 8, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Truer words have not been typed.

It’s ridiculous what these unproven rookies demand – and get.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Apr 8, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a huge cap number after this year

And if he is still our second stringer he will definately be released next off season.

But I have a question for all you VY naysayers; If VY isn’t the QB of our future, then what exactly do you want them to do? Hope that freaking Patrick Ramsey suddenly becomes good? Draft a QB in one of the first three rounds? Hope that Kerry Collins can play until he’s fifty? Everyone has their opinion that we should get rid of Vince, but no one has a realistic solution to who our future QB should be.

I am a VY supporter but more than that I’m a realist so you guys want to cut him, who will be the Titans future QB?

Cortland Finnegan is a beast

by Titansfan_559 on Apr 8, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

They could

Cut Vince, draft someone like Josh Freeman or Nate Davis, and groom them for a year or so as Collins’ replacement.

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by Brad Wells on Apr 8, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course...

there’s always the possibility that some other team might cough up a Cutler caliber QB because they dont like his aftershave?

by stetix01 on Apr 9, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we will need to replace Scaife and Alge after next year probably

and TE is about the only way he’s going to stick in the league, IMO.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Apr 9, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

VY wuts wrong witjh him

VY he still is still young. chow tried to make him quit running the ball for less injurys. u cant do that thats wut he is he runs he makes passes to but just not a pocket passer.u cant take away wut he has done all his life. go to youtube or some were and look at some of his passes they arn’t bad passes the recivers just dont catch them. then look at collins passes juust the same pretty much

by westside_thug1 on Apr 8, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Rhett Bomar this year though

If we could trade up and get him in round three I wouldn’t be opposed to us grooming him behind Kerry for two years

Cortland Finnegan is a beast

by Titansfan_559 on Apr 9, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll be so happy when this saga is finished.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

by DannoE on Apr 9, 2009 6:52 AM CDT reply actions  

With that kind of upcoming salary, Vince needs to go.

I’d much rather hang on to our established vets and team leaders like Bulluck, than to waste the money on Young. He’s no team leader; that’s for sure. He can’t read defenses, can’t hit the broad side of a barn with his passes, is too unstable, etc.

We need to look for a quality pick, 3rd round or later, to draft as heir-apparent to Collins. A late rounder has as good a chance to make something solid out of his opportunities as a first rounder. (See Tom Brady.)

by Titans_Girl on Apr 11, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

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