Tennessee Titans Morning Links: These Are Big Boy Days Right Here Edition
by August West on Apr 2, 2009 8:54 AM CDT
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Boom.
A source close to the situation said Wednesday night teams joining Washington in the Cutler sweepstakes include Chicago, Tampa Bay and Tennessee.
That's my boy, Mikey. Now here's the deal that makes sense to Jimmy and I: our 1st rounder this year and next year, Bo Scaife, and maybe a little more sweetener like a late pick next year. I don't know it that seals the deal, but it's a legit offer that fills some needs for the Broncos (who are weak at TE and don't want to pay the salaries required by super-high draft picks).
The Titans have requested that the NFL investigate tampering charges against the Washington Redskins since they pretty undeniably tampered with Albert Haynesworth, and the league appears inclined to check into the situation.
There was a special guest at Cortland Finnegan's karaoke benefit (hopefully we'll get some videos soon like last year) last night at Cabanas: Torry Holt! Glad to see he was getting some love and experiencing the city as the free agent wide receiver prepares to meet with the Titans brass today.
Speaking of Torry Holt, ESPN's Scouts Inc. has an extensive breakdown of Holt's remaining physical skills. Despite what he's lost, he is still brining more to the table than any WR we've had in several years.
Terry McCormick has notes on a slew of other NFL draft prospects who are visiting the Titans over the next few weeks, and a fascinating read on how Mike Reinfeldt is juggling the pre-draft visits, free agent negotiations and free agent visits all at the same time.
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2 first rounders for Cutler?!?!
No way. The most I’d offer for him is 1st and 3rd plus Scaife. And that’s a lot as it is.
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
that would be my opening bid
but I get the feeling they’ll come back wanting more since there are some desperate teams involved…
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
No.
Look, if you’re gonna trade for Cutler, and you’re the Titans, you pretty much HAVE to trade Kerry Collins in the deal. KC, a first, and a third. Or KC + Scaife + whatever. But you can’t keep Collins and take on Cutler, too. Among other things, that’s a stupid use of salary space, and it’s also an instant QB controversy. Both dumb things to take on voluntarily.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
There's no controversy.
Kerry may be pissed about it, but there will be no debate on who is the starter. As for the cap room, you eat it if you have to and cut folks if you must.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
I don't think Kerry will be involved in any trades...
If we somehow acquire Cutler he’ll just be cut
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
by Michaeltastic on Apr 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
On paper that makes sense...
But, you have to at least consider that Kerry might just go ahead and retire if he gets traded. I don’t think he presents any value to the Broncos.
I don't think he'd retire...
…because he would be a starter. I think that was his biggest sticking point.
Can we actually trade Collins right after signing him?
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 2, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Well if they want more
then it’s just plain not worth it
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
by Michaeltastic on Apr 2, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Torry Holt
will be wearing 2-toned blue byt he end of the day
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
Not according to Kuharsky
on the radio this morning. He expects the Holt thing to drag out past the draft.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
That would be a dumb move on Holt's part.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
The fact that both sides have been talking for some time now
makes me think this won’t take too long to get done
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
by Michaeltastic on Apr 2, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure we will.
At least I hope I’m sure we will. At least at least I hope that we will try. We better. At least.
Official MCM Hater!
Weak at tightend????!!!!!
“I don’t know it (if, correction) that seals the deal, but it’s a legit offer that fills some needs for the Broncos (who are weak at TE and don’t want to pay the salaries required by super-high draft picks).”
What!!!:
Denver weak at TE? Come on, atleast check your facts before you post them. Daniel Graham(blocking), Tony scheffler(receiving). Check the stats don’t take my word for it!! Not to mention the fact the they were 37 million below the cap….which was 3rd for most cap room in the NFL. Atleast be some what conscience of what’s going on.
Easy killer
Bo is better than either of those TEs, and the draft pick/money thing is a well established thought. Just because they have the cap room doesn’t mean they want it locked-up in a small number of rookies.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
Here's why they might want a more balanced option at TE
From PFW
Although some have questioned why the Broncos wouldn’t be determined to make a player with Tony Scheffler’s ability fit into their system, we hear the team is entertaining offers for him. Word is head coach Josh McDaniels doesn’t view Scheffler, a pass-catching tight end, as a good fit for his scheme on offense, which is supposed to feature bulkier, blocking-oriented tight ends.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
McDaniels is an idiot!
He’s proving quickly that he doesn’t like good players… With them having Daniel Graham there they already have the blocking/receiving TE he wants, there are numerous ways to use Scheffler… They have used him at WR already in his time there. That’s how good a receiver and weapon he is, his only issue is staying healthy.
The only alternative motive here could be he knows how much trade value a guy like Scheff has and he knows how much he plans to use Graham… So why have both I guess?
Didn’t the Pats have Graham and Watson for a while? They seemed to find ways to use 2 different types of TEs for different things.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Apr 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no way...
Bo is better than either of those TEs
I watch a lot of Broncos games, there is no way Scaife is better than Scheffler… A better blocker sure, but a better TE? No Way.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Apr 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there any money
owed if you trade a franchised player who hasn’t signed?
by The Nasty One Lives on Apr 2, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
I don't think there's really a penalty for anything
if it happens before June 1st
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
Crowd roaring after Suter’s goal tied it up… Preds win the faceoff and Arnott crosses the blueline, slapshot and a SCORE! Arnott blows it by Hasek and the Preds take the lead 4-3…
by Michaeltastic on Apr 2, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree to disagree on TE
Broncos are not interested. They are switching to New Englands offense. They dont use tightends anyway. Does two toned blue really need another QB? This trade is purely media driven and will never happen!
Tony Scheffler
They are trading him because they dont use TEs!
no, they just need a guy who can excel at both.
by ‘pass catching TE’ they mean a guy like Scheffler or Dustin Keller who can’t block a cold. Bo has become a pretty solid blocker as well as a good receiver. Nobody build a system looking to reduce what a player at a position can do…
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
Tampering Charges!
What we need to worry about is Albert Hayesworth and these tampering charges!
I know we've discussed it before,
but should these accusations of tampering be proven, what is the upside for us. Would it be a pick in this year’s draft or next year’s, and what is the possible pick value?
Staunch Defender of the Round Mound -
by TrenchantTitan on Apr 2, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
we won't get anything of value
maybe 7th rounder if anything. the skins didn’t hurt the titans because we weren’t even clsoe to signing him. if the charge is upheld, the outcome will focus on punishing washington.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
What, me worry?
This is a Redskins problem, and a Titans gain.
Titans have one of the higher Salaried teams in league
Surprisingly, the Titans are ahead of the Redskins and Patriots in payroll. Good link showing this in today’s Tennessean.com
Just simple mathematics of the payroll should tell you there is no way in h – e – double hockey sticks the Cutler deal can go down. Plus, we’ll have to either purge or increase payroll again next year when half the frickin team is up for contract renewal.
by pigskinpundits.com on Apr 2, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
the USA TODAY thing they link to is just last year's salary number
and we’ve shed tons on dead cap space on top of Albert’s $8+ mill franchise tag salary since then… money isn’t going to stop this from happening
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
here are more updated numbers, where the Titans have the 5th most cap space in the league.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
Thank you.
I had heard that, but had little time to research.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 2, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
the link was at the top of the Tennessean home page today - but now its gone!
I’m positive it said the Titans were at $120,000,000 in salary – maybe it was 2008 – however, even if they shed Haynesworth’s contract, wouldn’t it still leave them up there?
by pigskinpundits.com on Apr 2, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
we need to take that money and give our boys new contracts
Bullock still has three more good years, vandenbosch has at least three more good years, we need to resign tulloch, resign amano, and possibly lendale white if we want to. We are a 13-3 team and MUST keep our nucleus of guys
Cortland Finnegan is a beast
I JUST HEARD FROM AN INSIDE SOURCE
Jay Cutler has been in Nashville all week (noted at the UFC fight). He (Cutler) believes a deal was presented to the Broncos owner last week that was too good to be true, the part about Cutler not calling them back is a smoke screen. He (Cutler) according to this source, believes a deal will be done by this weekend.
It doesn’t sound like it’s going to be the Titans to me. And, from what I get, it’s probably going to be an NFC team.
by pigskinpundits.com on Apr 2, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
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