Mel Kiper And The Hilarity Of Hindsight
by August West on Mar 3, 2009 4:42 PM CST
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Here's Mel Kiper's draft grade for the Titans' 2005 draft:
Tennessee Titans: B
Corner Adam Jones fills a huge need for the Titans and Michael Roos is a very good tackle for Tennessee to add in the second round. Courtney Roby is an average receiver and Brandon Jones is OK, but I actually like fourth-round wideout Roydell Williams more than either Roby or Jones. Running back Damien Nash was a stretch in the fifth round but offensive tackle Daniel Loper is good in pass protection, and there is some question as to whether tight end Bo Scaife can stay healthy.
Here's where these cats stand today:
Adam Jones: If you need an update, then what are you doing here?
Michael Roos: Stud, and long-term bookend left tackle.
David Stewart: No mention in Kiper's grade, but he was near Pro Bowl level this year.
Courtney Roby: Keeping the Saints' bench warm.
Brandon Jones: Solid but hasn't developed... just got a hilarious contract with the 49ers.
Roydell Williams: Out of the league.
Damien Nash: Tragically died of a freak heart condition in 2006 after a charity basketball game. He had just caught on with the Broncos.
Daniel Loper: Looks like a career back-up, but a good one.
Bo Scaife: Just got the franchise tag. 'Nuf said.
Kiper's grade is about right, but the funny part is that it's for all the wrong reasons. Stewart was the second best player we got and didn't even get mentioned.
My point is, lets not get too caught-up in the false sense of certainty that accompanies draft day.
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most teams will take this every year:
2 home runs (one of them was slightly defective….)
1 good starter-still improving
1 decent starter-still improving
2 decent subs
1 wash out
The Official Enforcer of MCM
Roby is still in the league
he returned kickoffs for Indy and NO last season.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RobyCo00.htm
he was barely in the league in 2007 (active for one game for Cinci, but didn’t play), but he’s back around.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
with that D in New Orleans
I think he found his way off the bench to return kickoffs pretty often, but he’s pretty much a dedicated kickoff return guy. That’s why he got cut by Indy when they started having injury problems. No versatility is a bad thing for a fringe player, when someone has to go, it’s usually the guy that will only leave one hole on his way out.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
super harsh on the vote
50% c’s and d’s???
if you look at it from a purely football standpoint, that was a great draft. you can’t really blame them for not realizing moron would become public enemy #1 of the nfl and ruin his career. sure it’s easy to look back in hindsight. but tons of guys enter the league with rap sheets every year and almost none of them ever screw up as big as pac-man did. sure you could say he had character issues from the get go, but again, he’s not the only one, yet he was the only one to draw a full year suspension for repeat ed thugish activities. i mean he was really a one in a million character, like winning the lottery in reverse.
great football player though. who knows how good he would have been if you could replay his career and subtract all the nonsense.
if you don’t think pac is the return man for the titans/oilers madden all-franchise team, you are kidding yourself.
The Official Enforcer of MCM
no kidding
you can’t control what a guy does with his life after he’s drafted. if pacman wasn’t such a low life, he’d be the best corner/return man in the league.
and what about michael roos? he’s becoming a premiere tackle in this league. that pick alone makes the draft at least a B….
It is very rare to get two bookends in one draft
so therefore this was an awesome draft, I would take that every time!
Cortland Finnegan is a beast
Titan fans
probably aren’t giving the C’s and D’s
by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 3, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions
maybe to some extent
it’s true among the commenters in the thread, but I don’t think it’s a 72-61 ratio of Titans fans vs Others reading the site. I think a lot of people are grading them poorly for taking an extraordinary bust with the 6th overall pick.
I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It
Obviously the
Adam Jones thing went horribly wrong, and the receivers were all pretty much busts over the long term, but as Titansfan_559 said you almost never get your 2 tackles in the same draft. That alone gives it an A.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
true
but we wasted millions upon millions on Pac, and he gave us a very public black eye… that one hurts a lot. It would have been much better if he’d have just been a wash-out.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
We would've taken Antrel Rolle instead of Pacman though
and he hasn’t exactly been an elite player so it was sort of a lose lose with that first pick.
Cortland Finnegan is a beast
He is a safety
just like Floyd Reese said he would be.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
I agree that this was a B. PacMan Jones is the reason why.
You get big points for getting a long-term LT and a near pro-bowl guard in the same draft. Also, as mentioned, Daniel Loper was a great pick in the late rounds. Clearly Bo Scaife was as well.
And, I think, Roydell Williams was also a good pick, and as Kiper said (though I hate agreeing with that guy), of the WRs taken, he was the best. In fact, I wish the Titans had put him on IR at the start of last season; we could use him right about now if he’s ever gotten healthy since last year. But still, given how much trouble the Titans have with WRs, the fact that he and Gage made a credible pair there for a while in VY’s sophmore season is ample justification for that pick—a 4th rounder.
So, all of that would have been an “A” in my book, but you deduct 10 points for the Pac-Man Jones fiasco.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I am still excited for draft day.
Can’t wait.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
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