Vince Young: Better Value On The Titan's Roster Or In A Trade?

by August West on Mar 20, 2009 3:02 PM CDT in Reader Surveys

Football Outsiders contributor Ned Macey has an article on espn.com covering the NFC North (Insider Subscription required) in which he makes an interesting proposal considering the conventional wisdom is that VY has little-to-no trade value:

With a team designed to win right now, there are two potentially palatable options in trade. Matt Leinart and Vince Young have become linked as busts from the 2006 draft, but neither's really had much of a chance to prove that he's a bust...

Young became a much more accurate quarterback in 2007, even as his touchdown-to-interception ratio dropped. He's had all of 31 starts as a pro, and considering the lack of receiving options around him, it's pretty harsh to already place him firmly in the "bust" category.

Buying low on either Young or Leinart gives the Vikings the chance to acquire a potentially elite quarterback on the cheap. Either one should be an upgrade on the devil they already know.

This isn't telling Titans fans much they don't already know, but any positive statement about VY by a reputable analyst deserves pointing out these days! It's also nice to see someone talk about VY's future without being a mouth-breathing... (you know what I wanna say) pessimist.

So, what do you folks say: if there were no salary cap implications would you rather the Titans hang on to Vince for another year to see if he can still have a great NFL career, or would you take a low-end draft pick?

* I'd like to note in advance that it was not my intention to make my boy Superhorn's head explode with this post.

Poll

Does it make sense to trade VY?

Keep VY: Since his trade value is so low, lets see what he can do with another chance to start.

635 votes

Trade VY: Even if it's just a 5th round or later draft pick.

238 votes

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Let him go and bring in Jeff Garcia to back up Kerry

Vince doesn’t seem to possess the mental horsepower to play in the NFL

by vancouverTITAN on Mar 20, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions

Do you think he had the mental horsepower in 2006?

Or did you think he couldn’t cut it in the NFL then either? He’s obviously a different player now, but I find it hard to believe that he got dumber in his two extra years.

by SuperHorn on Mar 20, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions

It's not that

Other teams just figured him out.

by Rustmeister on Mar 20, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions

he wasn't the brightest star in the sky before we drafted him

remember the wonderlic test? worst resulet EVER! we should have never drafted vince in the first place, but there’s no use crying over spilled milk – all you can do is clean up the mess.

by vancouverTITAN on Mar 20, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions

It depends.

If the Titans would then turn around and go all-in for Cutler, I would say take what you can get.

Just losing the salary that would soon be due to Vince would open up a lot of possibilities for the Titans. This is espcially viable in the instance that they already have a franchise QB in Cutler via trade.

I am not all that interested in the return on investment if the net means a franchise QB for the long haul. The Titans still have lots of cap room to work with, and will have 11-12 draft picks as it stands. Losing a few and gaining a few in a set of deals unlloading Vince and acquiring Cutler will not set this team back.

I suspect it will improve this team for the long run. Also, let’s face it, Cutler will be given a lot of slack that will not be given Vince Young, just by being the product of a Tennessee college.

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 20, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

Eh....

Just losing the salary that would soon be due to Vince would open up a lot of possibilities for the Titans.

If traded, all his incentives become due immediately. It’d have larger cap implications on the team this year than if he just rode the bench. Next year, we can cut/trade him without consequences.

Provided Vince’s attitude stays the same, I see him playing out this year and then renegotiating things for next year.

by SuperHorn on Mar 20, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Where do you get that info?

Vince is still on a draftee’s contract. It is highly unlikely he would be due all of his contract incentives.

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 20, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

it's a draftee'd contract

for the 3rd overall pick. His entire bonus would be do the day we cut him, rather than being pro-rated over the contract. Right now it would probably be around 7 mill in dead cap space to cut him.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Mar 20, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Vince Young will be our starting QB again

They just need to repair the disgusting damage that Norm Chow did to him. YOU DO NOT FORCE A YOUNG RUNNING QUARTERBACK INTO A POCKET PASSER IN YEAR TWO OF HIS CAREER. Let Vince get back to what he does best, making plays with his legs and throwing the ball on the move, and he will not be called a bust for much longer…

Cortland Finnegan is a beast

by Titansfan_559 on Mar 20, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions

titans

yes he will he will also be one of the greats

by ALLPAINT on Mar 22, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions

why trade for anything less than a second rounder?

nowadays you need 2 solid qbs. why trade a guy who’s made the probowl 1 out of 2 years starting and still has a chance to become alot better.
to me this, is a free, no worries year with vince. keep him the whole year and see how he develops/plays. if he’s good keep him. if not, cut/trade next year.
no need to rush the decision a year early to pick up a middle round pick.

by rolypoly32 on Mar 20, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions

I know it's been real hard to watch

But I’m still a VY fan. And if he sucks, I don’t think we should use him. But I can still see his potential.

by jmac1383 on Mar 21, 2009 2:44 AM CDT reply actions

It is plenty early to call him an outright BUST !

He had some growing pains no doubt with the dismal performance in the 2008 opener.
He has the physical skills to run well and be elusive, but accuracy has been an issue and most importantly making good decisions has plagued him. He is not an intelligent qb. If you don’t think so, just listen to him when speaks at a press conference.
Let him go and maybe he can find himself elsewhere and start anew. I am not going to call Leinart a bust either, he has as much or more potential in my book than VY does. Cutler is in a class by himself and will be sought after by many. There again another huge ego to deal with, but who in the NFL doesn’t think of themself very highly, some are better at others at hiding it is all.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Mar 22, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions

vince young

dont trade him he will be one of the all time greats!! just give him a chance did you see him at texas he was un stoppable.one of the best QB i had ever seen just wait and watch!!!!

by ALLPAINT on Mar 22, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions

titans

give VY some good WR and a goog TE ptotect him and watch him work!!

by ALLPAINT on Mar 22, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions

titans

jeff fisher will do what is best he will not get rid of VY they do have a plan for him we all no the titans got cheated last year witch i still dont understand you no the snap count!!! it is a bunch of bull the super bowl was not the teams that should have been there and we all no its true

by ALLPAINT on Mar 22, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions

dude, you need to get hooked on phonics!

by vancouverTITAN on Mar 22, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Vince Young

Come on guys, I dont know how you can put everything that has transpired over VY,s career on his shoulders alone? He was thrust into the starting position way to fast without any kind of help. No recievers, No running backs that can make plays out of the backfield, and really no Big time linemen blocking for him. Had it been anyone else thrust into that spot so fast his career would have allready been over with. I know there are a lot of things happening behind closed doors we the fans never know about but I think Coach Fisher and the rest of the front office has realized that if it had not been for VY and his abillities durring his rookie year, maybe we would have more than just a new offensive coordinator by now. Not saying anything bad about Coach Fisher But We have now gott new Linemen, The best runnung back tandem in the NFL and The best OC for VY. Now just realize we need the best Wide out we can get VIA free agency, trade or draft. Nate Washington was the last piece of the puzzle we needed to put a wide out in place. Then we can put the rest of our picks on defence and special teamsYes VY has some baggage but nothing Coach Fisher cant deal with……..With the 30th pick in this years draft the tennesse titans pick…………..? Wide reciever, from ?

by aKILLez on Mar 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions

Who would trade Vince Young?

I think Vince needs another chance to start especially if they can Draft a reciever like Hakeem Nicks, Or Ramses Barden. They should also look at a player like Mizzou DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood. But i think Vince Young has too much talent to give up on. Didn’t anyone see the way he played in the Rose Bowl vs the USC Trojan “LA’s Pro football team” in some eye. He will be an elite QB. He just needs some recievers. Torry Holt /Marvin Harrison with Nicks/Barden would give him all the weapons he needs.

by mgarc3000 on Mar 22, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions