but you can’t deny what kc did for us this year, and when vince came in and played those games like the lions and the colts he really didn’t look that great, but he doesn’t have the receiving help i think he needs.

I would love to see Vince do well…..but, it does not look that is going to happen. He tried to take himself out of two games. He quit on his teammates and on the fans. This will be his last year in Tennessee maybe even in the NFL. Hate to say that.

debating whether we should take our chance with VY next year or with Collins. I now think I have made my final decision and am sticking to it, I believe it should be VY. We would probably win more games with Collins next year and that would be great, but it is not what is best for our future. We can not give up on a guy that we drafted third overall, we have to grind this out and get his confidence back. Vince is still the same amazing athlete, he just doesnt believe in himself anymore and neither do most titans fans. So regardless of if it makes us a better team for next year alone VY must be our starter next year or this franchise will have a major setback in a few years. I believe in you VY and hope you work your butt of this offseason.

Kerry being the QB… I think more important than any stat was the way Kerry made the plays when we needed them the most. If not for fumbles in the playoffs we woulda been even happier w Kerry overall. He really only played 2 bad games… The Jet game, and the Texan game, the 2 games we lost, that should tell you how important he was to this team winning.

Kerry pissed you off w stupid ints? What did Vince do the year before?

When did the Titans try and turn Vince into a pocket QB? I’ve never seen this anywhere? I’m pretty sure Vince is the one that tried to turn himself into a pocket passer to prove some critics wrong.

I can’t believe anyone is willing to give up a chance at a Super Bowl and or winning more games next year just to make sure our 3rd overall pick succeeds down the road… That’s just crazy in my opinion.

we went 13-3… 13-2 as far as I’m concerned… Also, as far as I’m concerned he should have been the winning QB in the Bal playoff game if it wasn’t for everyone having too much butter on their pancakes and toast for breakfast that day. Kerry put us in a position to win games much more than to lose is just the way I see it.

It was evident to me that Vince’s head messed Vince up in 07

It’s time to realize that picking Vince was a huge mistake, and move on. He won some games for us with his legs, OK, but everytime that he alligned behind center i felt that something could go wrong. An interception, an overthrow, almost all the time.

Kerry did enough to deserve to start next season. With this defense and this running game, we need a QB who can make the right throws, and doesnt turn the ball over.

But one thing intrigues me. What would’ve happened if we had traded down some few spots, and got Jay Cutler?

If I’d say it was a huge mistake yet… I just don’t think now is the time with a team like this that can actually win it all. He still needs time to develop. I definitely don’t see him going 12-7 Td to int ratio… Which is where a vet like Collins really helped us. Collins is doing well with what he’s being asked to do. He has always been asked to use his big arm and throw the ball down field all game, now he’s being asked to do it occasionally and thats working really well for us.

He has two years left in him at best. Starting him to win a few more games this year is a mistake, we need to put the future of our franchise back on the field to see if he can cut it or not. Kerry Collins did not do that much better than VY, for christ sake VY only had one year as our full time starter and that was with an offensive cordinator who didnt want to work with him. I understand your points Big Bad Bullock but if you want to have the opportunity to turn this franchise into a constant competitor for super bowls down the road VY needs to be our quarterback.

Then we waste next season which looks like it could be another good shot at a Super Bowl. 12 Tds to 7 ints while not Tom Bradyish is way better than the number Vince put up.

lets say we sign Kerry Collins. I don’t want him automatically handed the Starting Job. What I really want is to see Collins, Young, and Sims to battle it out. I really would like to see what Vince can do, if he really learned anything. I would like to see- If VY can still blow people away, then lets see him bring us to the superbowl and prove everybody wrong. Or I want to see if 2006 was the fluke and and he really was a mistake. I mean, he really did look bad against the Colts. But then again, it was the Colts and they acted like he wasn’t planning to pass unless he had to. I still say that if we had an elite receiver then even Vince can make huge plays on the team. I think even Sims could do it. In fact, I think that Sims might even be the happy medium that could surprise every one. Either way, whatever the Titans decide to do will be making a statement.

Prediction: Collins is back, with VY and Simms fighting it out for the #2 spot.

I’m sorry, but I just don’t think Fisher likes VY all that much, so regardless, VY is done as a Titan. It is what it is.

Look this year i think they should let them battle it out in preseason and training camp, why give all that money to Vince if your not going to atleast give him a chance to start, what is Kerry Collins supposed to be untouchable because he went 13-2, i think not, cuz he definately aint a John Elway or Joe Montana, or Warren Moon, and last time i checked we lost in the 1st round of the playoffs, so its not like KC got us to the promise land, and i know its not all KC’s fault but he did throw that INT, which cost us points just like both of the fumbles. So my point is basically this, unless you are a franchise QB which KC is not, then you have no right to demand you be a starter or you will retire, thats like holding the whole team hostage, this ain’t a bomb threat this is football, and to me that is really a selfish act of KC.

and that whomever wins is better for it and whomever is prepared every week to step in because neither one of them deserves a lot of security based on their previous season starting.

…with broadswords over a pit of flaming coals. Because I think that’d get some monster ratings on TV.

Some of you already know how i feel bout KC, but now heres my take on Vince….
Does anyone remember the years we had before Vince. 5-11, 4-12
Then with the 3rd pick of the NFL draft the Titans select Vince Young of Texas
Rookie Year we start out 0-5 shit here we go again then the Fish lets Vince off of his leash and we finish 8-8 and I’m pretty sure a win against New England in Week 17 and we’re in.
Next Year Vince starts we go 10-6 which easily could have been 11-5 i know you remember that choke against San Diego in the regular season. Playoffs here we come damn loose to San Diego again…Anyways It may not be pretty it may be hard to watch but Vince can win….and thats all that matters….Plus now we go CJ…

Fisher+Vince+CJ+a receiver that isnt god awful if we ever get one+our D=Rings

Why Do People Hate On Vince

Interesting reading the comments. I’m new here so be gentle the first day

Here’s my two cents. I am a die hard VY fan….however the fact is he was crappy althrough pre season and so rattled his first game he didnt want to play. I believe thats where fish lost confidence in VY along with his teammates. KC came in and went 13-3. With the same receivers everyone complains about. (don’t get me wrong ….I want harvin or Bey as well)

KC is solid…last time I checked his rating and numbers are close to Big Ben’s. Ratings/Stats are overrated. (except for turnovers and Win Loss)

I want to see VY play and i believe he can be great..but IMO he has to truly beat KC out and show he can lead. If you are trying to lead and no ones following you….your just out for a walk.