Titans Sign Kerry Collins To Two Year Deal
by August West on Feb 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST
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Jumpin Jehosaphat, Kerry is back! I never thought I'd be this relieved, but losing him and Albert today would have been a bit much. They price feels a little steep, but it's better than going into the season with just Simms and VY:
The deal is for 2 years and is worth $15 million, along with $8.5 million in guaranteed money, according to sources familiar with the situation.
Hopefully that garaunteed money is almost all for this year, when you know he'll be the starter. I still say that Kerry is the starter on week 1, and VY is starting by the end of the season. If not then VY's career here is on life-support.
* Hat-tip to Air McNair 9 in the fanposts for getting this first.
Vinny Fuller got a 3 year deal from the Titans as well... who says we aren't big spenders!?!
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Thanks August...
with Kerry here for 2 more years, are we still “very interested” in re-signing Chris Simms? I’m not sure what this exactly means for Vince. Do we want to have Simms back up Vince for the future or is Fisher that skeptical VY can get it together?
I still say that Kerry is the starter on week 1, and VY is starting by the end of the season. If not then VY’s career here is on life-support.
It boggles my mind that any Titans fan still thinks VY is worth the time.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
He'll have to earn it
but I think we’ll all be disappointed if he can’t earn the starting spot back at some point. I mean, the kid’s on our team so we’re not just going to root for him to fail.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
For real
People expect us to be happy he’s not starting, like we want to waste 3rd overall picks and shit. That’s hard to accept, especially with the way a certain 6th overall pick already hurt us.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Well consider yourself boggled.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
oh sorry
that was meant for that dude…
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Its called
Wishful thinking… I’m sure you probably had it with Jeff George for a while…
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions
I think so too
Then again, it’s not a gross overpayment. But for an average QB who is old, I wouldn’t have forked over that money. But I guess the Titans are sitting on cap space so they might as well. After hearing Fat Albert’s Fat Contract, it doesn’t seem like anyone else is overpaid anymore.
by TheElusiveShadow on Feb 27, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
but there’s nobody else out there I’d trust to come in and win this year, so that makes it easier to stomach…
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
Why?
We have to spend it somewhere at some point… We have a lot of money to spend, especially now that we aren’t spending it all on Albert. This gives us plenty of space to get a guy like Canty and a CB. Obviously the Titans as some of the rest of us feel Kerry is important to our chances at winning next season. What are we gonna do go spend a fortune on Warner? Go with Vince?
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
I would rather use the money
to lock up guys like KVB and Bulluck. Collins played fine last season, but he is by no means worth throwing $15 million at. Honestly, I would rather of had them give less money to Simms and have an open competiion in camp between he and Vince.
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I understand...
But in my opinion is that 8 Million guaranteed over 2 years isn’t too bad… Especially when not spending that money could mean not winning the Super Bowl. I like our chances better with Kerry a lot more than with Vince or Simms at this point. I’m also probably in the minority when it comes to thinking Kerry was more than a manager, especially in the big games.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
We had Kerry this season
and didn’t win the Super Bowl. Simms is just as likely to be a game manager with the stats Kerry put up. There is a very good chance we will never win a Super Bowl with the way this team is constructed. Think about it; We have had a truly dominant defense 2 years. Both seasons we were 13-3 but lost in the playoffs because we didn’t have the firepower to overcome some bad breaks.
For this team to win a Super Bowl, they are going to have to catch pretty much every break in the Super Bowl. Think about it again; One trip to the Super Bowl in 10 years and it took the Music City Miracle to get us there.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Right
But it was hardly Kerry’s fault we didn’t win the Super Bowl… We had the firepower to win it if not for CJ getting hurt and Huge turnovers by Lendale and Alge. Add a WR and we have more than enough firepower with the Defense we have. I don’t think Vince nor Simms can make a lot of throws Kerry can when asked, that’s the difference. In some cases Kerry, I admit was a manager as anyone would have been with the way we ran the ball at some points. I just really feel neither of those QBs would have been able to make some of the throws Kerry can when they were needed.
Every team has to catch some breaks to win the Super Bowl, that goes without saying, us no more than anyone else. Health, a few good bounces, good solid play without turnovers is what it takes. The same way Pitt has done it. We are kind of built the same way, just haven’t had Vince work out like a Roethlisberger.
We just haven’t caught the right breaks at the right time yet… Our time will come. We may have only one trip to the Super Bowl, but I feel we could easily have had 4 or 5 had things gone our way, mostly in Raven playoff games. I’m blessed to have had the opportunity to root for guys like McNair, Moon, and Eddie regardless of how many rings we have at this point.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
I would argue that we do need
to catch them more than normal. With the style we play, we don’t have to catch some breaks, we have to catch all of the breaks.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
We play
a smart, tough style of football… All we have to do is take care of the damn ball, if we’d have done that against Baltimore we could easily have won the Super Bowl this year… I guess we will agree to disagree… I see no reason why we would need more breaks than anyone else.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
i would say
it’s not that we “need all the breaks”. it’s that we can’t take too many really bad breaks, like red zone turnovers.
The Official Enforcer of MCM
especially
since the titans are being so cheap that canty canceled his trip. stupid. kerry was going nowhere. how many teams were gonna make him a starter w/ a 2 year deal? not many. part of the reason i was so pro-collins is cuz the man should be a bargain. i’d like to see the structure/ incentives and see what the most realistic amount he will get paid is.
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Lets see
exactly what happens and what the real reasons are for everything with Canty. From what I understand he’s still open to meeting with us. Maybe Canty is looking for a fortune as well?
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
There are
lots of reasons a guy would cancel his trip… All is speculation and presumption right now. Its like we just made up a reason he canceled and are running with it..
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you Jimmy, but...
…there’s A LOT of money to be had right now. They could easily afford this contract. I mean, personally, I sort of agree that they could have gotten as much out of Simms as they got out of Collins—and now they’re likely to lose Simms, too, which sucks—but still… letting KC walk would have left them with SO MUCH MONEY and they’d likely never have used it.
As for locking up Bulluck, etc… I think they’re gonna let Bulluck walk at the end of the year, and honestly, as much as I love the guy and all, that might be the right decision. He’s not a young guy. I’d love it if they offered him a reasonable extension, but I doubt he would sign that. And with KVB, I want to see him play few games and look like himself next season before I re-sign him. He’s had a pretty extensive injury history.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
How about it is a lot of money when your head coach keeps saying that the quarterback of this team is sitting on the bench.
Just come out and say VY is done. You’re messing with my emotions here.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
I'm guessin
you meant to say future qb?
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
OK--future qb. Why are we paying all this money to quarterbacks?
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
Because
so far the the Vince Young pick has been somewhat of a mistake… So sometimes mistakes can be costly.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
OK, then get rid of him and get something in return.
But don’t keep overpaying guys to come in and try to fix it.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
they can't take the cap his this season
but next off-season will be do or die time. That’s a big part of why i think he starts by the end of the year.
Plus, he deserves a season or two of coaching from an PROFESSIONAL coordinator, not a college guy miscast in the NFL.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
It's just frustrating that we have so much money tied up in quarterbacks.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
We lowballed Haynesworth and overpaid Collins. Makes no sense.
Now we probably let Simms walk and we are stuck with a 40 year old quarterback and a headcase that probably doesn’t play another down.
Just doesn’t make sense.
And I am glad we didn’t pay Haynesworth what Washington did, and he would have been gone anyway, but I can’t believe they offered so little.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
And we better let Simms walk cause we are really gonna be in Floyd Reese hell throwing coin at 3 quarterbacks like this.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
Funny...
Everyone keeps saying we lowballed Albert, but pretty much all day on the radio, and from what I’ve seen on ESPN and NFL Network when asked who if not the Redskins would have been the other possible destinations or the so called major players everyone keeps saying the Titans.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Feb 27, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe we just don't know...but like I said, we wouldn't have gotten him back anyway.
Bulluck. B-U-L-L-U-C-K. At least spell his name right....and hate Music City Miracles!
What do you all think about Vinny's deal...
It’s apparently 3 years for 7 mil. That’s a little bit more than I was expecting for them to throw at him.
I think it's reasonable
he’s a key special teams guy and has garnered a lot of respect from the coaching staff for his play in the nickel spot, and in our division that position is on the field more than the MLB.
So it’s a little high, but definitely worth it to me.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
He could easily push Harper for playing time as a starter this year.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
In other news
Apparently Vincent Fuller is back.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939550
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