MCM's Tennessee Titans Team of the Decade
by Jimmy on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 AM CST
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We are continuing our "of the decade" series today with the Titans team of the decade. This list was compiled by August, Hal, Gramsey, and me. It was a fun exercise. Some of the selections were no brainers that were easily agreed on by all parties, but there were a few that were hotly debated.
The team and some comments on it after the jump.
OFFENSE
QB- Steve McNair
RB- Chris Johnson
FB- Lorenzo Neal
WR- Derrick Mason
WR- Drew Bennett
TE- Frank Wycheck
OT- Brad Hopkins
OT- Michael Roos
OG- Bruce Matthews
OG- Zach Piller
C- Kevin Mawae
DEFENSE
DE- Jevon Kearse
DE- Kyle Vanden Bosch
DT- Kevin Carter
DT- Albert Haynesworth
LB- Keith Bulluck
LB- David Thornton
LB- Randall Godfrey
CB- Samari Rolle
CB- Cortland Finnegan
S- Chris Hope
S- Michael Griffin
SPECIAL TEAMS
K- Rob Bironas
P- Craig Hentrich
RS- Derrick Mason
LS- Ken Amato
A few thoughts:
- The first debate we really had was between CJ and Eddie George. It seems somewhat blasphemous to keep Eddie off the team, but you can't include 1999 and without that CJ's numbers in 2 years are more impressive.
- We all wanted to come up with a way not to put Drew Bennett on the team because all any of us can think of when we think of Drew is the drop in New England, but when you look at the numbers he had to be there.
- Gramsey wants Sarge over Lorenzo, but the thing that gave Lorenzo the nod for the rest of us was the decline in Eddie's career when he left.
- Everything else offensively is pretty much a no-brainer.
- We cheated a little bit on the defensive line putting Carter in there at tackle. He did play some tackle in his time here, but it really came down to the fact that those four guys are the four that it had to be. Who else would you put at tackle? Tony Brown was close, but Carter's numbers were so good that it was justifiable.
- Linebacker was a little bit of a debate between Randall Godfrey and Peter Sirmon, but Godfrey was more dominating so he got the nod.
- The safety positions might have taken us the longest. Blaine Bishop was the first thought in everyone's head, but when you look at the numbers from this decade his aren't that good. Griff would have made it a lot easier on us had he not gone in the tank this year, but his season last year was better than any season posted by a safety in the last 10 years- ergo he makes the list.
- The returner debate is still going on between the four of us as I am writing this post. The numbers are close enough that I can put Mason on the list and not feel bad about it. Gramsey and Hal are all about he who shall not be named. He was electric, but he only did it for 2 seasons. That is how I am justifying leaving him off. Gramsey says I will close the comments so no one can prove me wrong. He doesn't have that "Hater" title for nothing. Have at it..
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Drew Bennett?
Is this the same Drew Bennett that dropped a game winning touchdown in the end zone in Foxborough back in (I think) 2005? I mean, I grant you that he had good years in McNair’s MVP season and in his right-on time with Billy Volek, but the guys was by no means a clutch player. He was, in fact, far more likely to drop the ball when the game was on the line. Urgh.
Gimme either Britt or Justin Gage any day, and that’s even with Britt’s small sample size. He’s just a MUCH better player in every way.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
BTW, you could have EASILY put a second TE on the field in the All-Decade team...
…and successfully made the argument that that was the Titans base set. Scaife is MUCH more deserving than Bennett.
DannoE
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Erron Kinney?
Not much of a prolific catcher, but a helluva blocker if I remember right. Him and Wycheck were great together, much like Cook and Stevens will be soon in the near future.
by groovymountain on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I could agree with that, certainly ahead of Bennett.
DannoE
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Had a 1200 yard recieving year
He was not my favorite…but no one else excpet mason has put up even close to that kind of year. Pair that with a couple of decent years. Then add to that this franchise has been hurting for WR basically this whole decade and you’ve Drew Bennett on the all decade team.
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
2 years of bruce
is a lot better than 10 years of pretty much everyone else
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Although
in all seriousness I think you could make a case for Benji Olsen. Not for a career…but for the 2000s decade.
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
I knew this would draw you out of hiding!
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
I think Pacman deserves the nod. I can't think of one return by Mason that really "wowed" me.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions
But consistency counts... for a lot.
And Mason was consistent. AND, lest we forget, Mason also broke the total yards in a single season record, much of it on return duty.
DannoE
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Look to the numbers Smash provided
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
I did.
He proves my point. 4 years > 2 years. By a lot. Especially when the averages are close.
DannoE
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2 less years yet double the touchdowns.
Who is better?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
The guy who was on the field for more attempts with the same yards/return average.
That’s not even close. Availability is the most important stat in Pro Football.
DannoE
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4>2. you were right
just change “years” to “touchdowns”
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Clearly we are not going to agree.
That said, you are as wrong as virgin caught in Pacman’s house after curfew.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
well considering it was only 3 years to 2
it kills your argument even more. Plus if thats your argument, years played, then why arent you upset about CJ over Eddie?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Because Eddie wasn't thrown out of the League, leaving the Titans in a lurch.
But I am holding that against Pacman because I think it’s part of the total package.
DannoE
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Actually,
Mason didn’t return for the 2002 season, so it was just 3 years
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
i disagree
pac man could turn a game around in one play. no one was EVER afraid of mason.
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Pacman could also turn a season around. And not in a good way.
As in, “Titans Kick Returned Pacman Jones was arrested for the 18th time today. Sources at ESPN wonder what in Hell the Titans are going to do about Kick Returners now that their best one is in jail again.”
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
that's all well and good too
still doesn’t address the fact that pac man was simply better at returning than mason.
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How can you return kicks when you're in prison?
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
How can you return kicks for the Titans in a Ravens uni?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Fair point.
But that said, he’s not still returning kicks. And… I blame Floyd Reese anyway. What realistic effort was made to keep the guy?
DannoE
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Mean Machine
Michael Vick was the quarterback.
by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHA
Rec’d
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
OJ as the runningback?
He finally went to prison so he now qualifies
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
That would be one nasty team in the WILDCAT!
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Michael Irvin and Plaxico as the WRs
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Slot on a 3 wide set, but he doesnt hold a candle to these two
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Pacman as the RETURNER
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Lawrence Taylor
MLB
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Jeff Reed
kicker
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Nice, forgot about that douche
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Cecil Collins at backup RB
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
TEBOW for H-back
prison chaplains count too right?
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That's not the point
This is the best players on the field of the decade.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just saying if we can put CJ over Eddie for 2 years of great production
Then why not Pacman over Mason? It’s the same logic, just different reasons for only playing 2 years, and I don’t think the reasons should matter.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Is this not clear?
Because Pacman blew it for the team by screwing up his ability to perform. I consider that part of his job—being available to play—and he f’ed it up. Ergo, I choose the other guy.
DannoE
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no one is voting for "man of the year" here
but if you are trying to decide who was better at the position (the entire purpose of this exercise) it’s pac man by a mile.
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Only when he was available. Which wasn't much.
And the lack of availability hurt the team at his position.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
If availability is that important...
take Haynesworth off the list. He stomped a cowboy, he was perpetually injured and in search of more money he went to a differen team. If he had stayed, the Steelers game this season would have beena W because the 4 man front would have worked. Not only that but he was only the best for 2 years he was with us… JUST LIKE PAC MAN.
Pac man was an asshat off the field. I agree 100% with that but completely ignoring the fact that while he was playing he had the best stats makes no sense whatsoever. If you use that reasoning… you have to agree Haynesworth needs off the list as well and I just don’t think you are willing to do that.
Oh and… sorry I been away so long. I have still been reading every day, just haven’t commented in a while but this one pulled me off my butt and made me log in.
People were afraid of Mason in the early part of the decade
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Who?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
The other teams we played against
That was a silly question Posse.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Not like they were of Pacman
Not only for scoring on a punt return, but for the potential he was carrying an Uzi or a switchblade. Last Boy Scout style.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
People were afraid of Pac late in the decade
Other teams
Strippers
Dudes who just happened to be at the wrong strip club
Opposing gang members who didn’t have enough money to roll as deep as him
by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
so by "early part of the decade"
you mean 200 when scored exactly 1 td. rrrright. they must have been TERRIFIED in 2001 when his numbers in both categories dropped like a stone.
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Another question...
Can we have a negative version of this? For example…
CB Denard Walker- he got burned deep over and over and over…
TE Ben Troupe- This guy never did anything
TE(2)-Algae- FUMBLE
OT- Fred Miller- nickname was “False Start Freddie”
exactly
this is the kind of stuff that is fun to hear
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
these arent neccesarily the “worst” players of the decade. They are just bad enough to be funny.
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Another example
WR- Isaac Byrd- worst TD celebration
QB- Kevin Daft- its amazing how someone who can score so high on the wonderlic can be so completely clueless against 3rd stringers in a preseason game
QB(2)- Eric Crouch- Did you really think you could make it? Your no Tommie Frazier.
WR- Pretty Much every WR- why have you all been so bad the entire decade?
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Mason has two return touchdowns this decade while Pacman has 4
Mason’s return average in 117 punts is 23.4 ypr while Pac’s is 26.2 in 63 returns. I think Pacman deserves it.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM CST reply actions
...if they hand the award out in a strip club?
Sorry, I disagree. Consistency + NFL record = Better Player.
DannoE
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More touchdowns in half fielded punts + better average = better returner
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
When available.
What about the other two years, when the Titans had NOBODY?
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Read my above comment...
about Haynesworth. If you are going to judge by availability, you have to hold up all the players to the same scrutiny.
sure he's a better player
too bad that’s irrelevant
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SMASH STEPS UP!!!
Data.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
For punt returner? are you kidding me?
Wins now go to the punt returner?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I am kidding
very few of my posts are serious.
Except this one.
Maybe.
by DonFrancisco on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
hahaha okay good
you scared me
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
It breaks my heart to see Eddie isnt on the list but...
I agree with it. Poor Eddie.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions
That's exactly how I feel.
Eddie George is and probably always will be my favorite professional athlete. He is a seriously inspiring dude.
DannoE
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it's his own fault
for straddling the decade like that. gotta plan your career better.
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by hal41605 on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
totally
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
here's how you know pac was better at returning:
if mason and pac had been rookies at the same time, mason never would have has a shot. it took that ratbird 4 years to get his average as good as pacman’s was on day one for both punts and kicks and mason never even sniffed pac’s big play potential. game over.
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Which would have left Mason with the job after Pac was arrested for 21st time.
It might also have left a GAPING hole in the roster, which you could (and I do) blame on the incumbent for not keeping himself eligible to play. And especially since those non-available years ALL occurring in the Aughts, I’m holding them against Pac for the purposes of the All-Aught Team.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
stop moralizing
and pick the person who was the best at what he did on the field. as far as returns go, it was pacman
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I'm not moralizing.
I’m not. I’m still pissed at the guy for f’ing up my favorite team’s return slot.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
but that's a really tenuous stance
he hurt the team because the drop in talent from him to the next guy was so great. we only missed him because he was so good.
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It doesn't change how I feel.
And with another guy close, I’m going with the other guy.
DannoE
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You couls also argue
That the Titans would have drafted another guy with a good skill set had they not foolishly been counting on Pacman.
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Thank you.
It’s like saying that one of the things that makes Bulluck such a good OLB is the fact that he’s been available for every game in his entire career. No back-up necessary, no contingency plan, no need to draft another guy. Boom! Bulluck! It counts. Ask Fisher, and he’ll say it counts A LOT.
DannoE
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Its why he loves Peyton Manning so much
He’s available all the time.
Of course that availability didnt help him win the Heisman, when Charles Woodson justly won for being better and deserving it more.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was with you
thru the first two sentences.
And then you lost me. I can’t even read that last part. Is it German?
Now that's just downright confusing right there.
There’s smoke coming out of my ears.
DannoE
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Its an easy point to get
Pacman deserves the All-Decade team just like Woodson deserved the Heisman. That simple
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I've also read that Tim Tebow is the greatest college quaterback of all time.
DannoE
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Oh, so you think Peyton deserved it for losing to Florida for the 4th time in a row?
That’s logical
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Dude...
…I don’t care about Manning half enough to get into that whole can of worms. Ask that Suh kid who deserved the Heisman that year, and he might agree with you.
DannoE
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the answer is yes
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Gramsey, your responses are dissapointing me
Jimmy said if I bring this up, it would send you into a Rage unrivaled by anything I have ever seen.
So far I have gotten veiled references to German and shots at Alabama.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
I realized when a guy who wasn't even the best running back on his own team won the award
it just reinforced my notion that it means absolutely nothing.
I have come to accept that MTV ESPN gave the award to Woodson for one punt return (full circle back to our original discussion!) and it’s obvious to anyone with a brain (read:not an Alabama fan) who the better player was.
I'm an Ohio State fan
Who do you think I was really pulling for?
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
go buckeyes!
my godfather went to osu on a hockey scholarship, made me follow them, made me follow eddie, the rest is history. i wouldnt be here without the ohio state university
In other news...
this thread has got to be a record for the most comments in a non game-thread in 30 minutes.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 11:35 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
its amazing....
because these 100+ posts were done by the same 5 people. keep on keeping on gentleman….
Kevin Carter doesn't deserve being there...
as a DT. He was an End and he should be there in place of KVB. To take KC’s spot at DT should be Jason Fisk or Robaire Smith or John Thornton. Probably Fisk.
Eddie over CJ. Sorry but two years doesn’t cut it. So that also leaves Griffin off because one good year certainly doesn’t cut it. Bishop should be in there.
You guys have short memories.
Eddie never chased 2,000 yards
CJ is being mentioned with Barry Sanders. I love Eddie, but he was never mentioned in the company of players like that.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Over 5,000 yards in this decade
I agree that CJ is having a remarkable year. But Eddie shoulder the load for a long time.
Eddie only had 4,644 this decade
And it took him 4 years to get there. The 2004 yards don’t count because he didn’t play for the Titans.
Can you imagine the numbers CJ would put up with Eddie’s touches, but he can never get them because he makes too many long runs.
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Yes it can
when it is one of the best years in NFL history
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Potentially the BEST year in regards to Yards from Scrimmage
Which to me, is the most important stat for a Runningback
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
CJ had more yards last year
than Eddie did in any year other than 2000.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
And Eddie caried more weight because he weighed more
HIYOOOOOOOOOOO
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
exactly...
and look how many yards CJ is getting with so many less carries
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Me too...
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like I need to sleep in my #27 tonight
He will know that I have spoken ill of him!
by gramsey712 on Dec 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Go eat at his restaurant.
BTW, one of my favorite things about Eddie is that his life didn’t basically end when he retired. If you’ve never seen it, go check out the website for his landscape architecture firm. Seriously cool.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Plus he is so beautiful...
/drools on the desk
//freaks out about drooling over a man
///doesnt care because look at this
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
exactly. 4.9 YPC crushes Eddie Georges career high
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Agree completely.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I love me some Blaine Bishop
But his only full year on the Titans was 2000. And his stats for that one year pale in comparison to Griffin’s one year.
Read the post for Carter
And go look at the stats for the others.
If this was an all-time team it is easily Bishop, but Bishop only played 2 years in this decade and was hurt for most of that second year. Like I said above, Bishop was the first thought for all of us, but after going back and looking at his numbers from 2000 on he wasn’t even close.
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Carter played quite a bit of DT, and he was EXCELLENT when teamed specifically with...
…Haynesworth. As a matter of fact, I can’t name a better DT, and certainly not one who wasn’t ALSO teamed with Big Al.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
That said, you're right that Robaire Smith could be a worthy choice also.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
hold on, hold on
this is just bullshit. i just actually looked long and hard at mason’s numbers, and within this decade he has 1 season, 2000, as a returner that is even remotely buzzworthy:
Punts:
13.0 avg, 1 td, long of 69
Kicks
27.0 avg, 0td, long of 66
now pac man in 2005 and 2006
Punts:
9.4 avg 1td, long of 52
12.9 avg 3tds, long of 90
Kicks
26.2 avg 0tds, long of 85
26.1 avg 0 tds, long of 70
so in pac man’s only 2 season here he was a better punt returner than mason ever was, and he was basically the same as a kick returner except more dangerous.
mason’s numbers for the rest of the decade (2001-2004)
Punts:
6.2 avg, 0tds long of 21
Kicks
21.9 avg, 1td long of 101
it’s just not even close. unless you include something about pac’s personal troubles there is no way to justify mason over him as a returner. go look at his stats from other years. he sucked for most of his time outside of that one year.
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My only point is this:
It’s not the personal problems, per se, it’s the way that the problems impacted the team over the course of the rest of the decade. So in my book, Pac gets negative points for those years.
And now I’m done.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
that's just bias
we are asking who the best punt returner is. the answer is pac man. end of story. if you want to talk about negative points, how about assigning them to mason for being really below average at the position for all but one season.
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The Hell with that.
I like my bias and I’m sticking to it.
DannoE
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!
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FYI, Hal i am totally with you
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
We (meaning you) made a Titans All-Decade list.
You put Pacman Jones and Drew Bennett on it but left Eddie George off. And you call yourselves fans…?
That’s all I’m sayin’.
DannoE
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When you put it like that, my heart hurts
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you.
We must all try to keep our souls right with God. Which is why this list ought to be a two Tight End set with Erron Kinney or Bo Scaife starting opposite Frank Wycheck.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Valid point
I was emotionless in my voting minus Pacman.
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you were also right in your voting
minus pac man
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HIYOOOOOOOOOOO
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you sound like...
Brady Quinn in that Myoplex commercial….now Im done..LOL!!!
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
I've been waiting for this post all day
Except in serious form. I think somebody has at least thought it if they havent posted it
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Me too.
Where’s Superhorn when you need him?
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Let's leave SuperHorn out of it
He has been very reasonable this last year.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
I wasn't picking on the guy.
How the Hell else would we ever get decent stats on VY without him?
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
C'mon, even I'm not that biased!
And, it’s not hard to produce compelling stats, when you’re arguing against Kerry Collins, though.
Here’s some food for thought, though:
Players that would likely make the All-Titans Rookie Team:
Vince
CJ
Britt
It’s exciting to have young guys at the skill positions, all with exceptionally high ceilings.
I just want everyone on this forum to know
That hal has threatened “or else” against me if I don’t change it to Pacman. I think we now see why he is such a big fan of Pacman.
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i know what strip clubs you frequent...
and i know a guy who likes to shoot em up
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by hal41605 on Dec 17, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Banana Slings, probably...
/Office’d
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
VY is good and should have gotten one vote but....
we are talking about STEVE “AIR” MCNAIR here..nuff said!
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions
I'm just gonna ignore this...
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
anyone who even paused
to think about thinking about maybe possibly even thinking about vince in any way shape or form up against mcnair and his mvp year should stop wasting my oxygen.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions
all because of Pacman
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
No kidding...
I’ve not even tried posting yet because it’s piled up so fast .. I’m having trouble just trying to keep up with reading them. Is it a slow work day? lol
I would say...
Sirmon for Linebacker, because of his knowledge of the game, his ability to read Manning, and his activity in the community and fan relations while he was here.
and his activity in the community and fan relations while he was here.
I dont think that should matter at all on an All decade team
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
exactly...
this isn’t a beauty pageant!
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody picked CJ for his work in the community
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
I have never seen so many posts....in a non game thread....
i mean I guess i should say something….Pac was good (on the field…) but hey just my opinion…
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions
Kenny Britt
I know his numbers aren’t there yet, but I would definitely have #18 on my team before Drew.
we based it on performance, not potential
but i have a great feeling about his chances for the 2010 team
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debatable
his biggest problem are drops
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Britt completes 60.1% of the balls thrown at him
compared to 46.8% for Gage and 49.3% for Washington
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
he's definitely better than they are
but regardless, his drops were ap roblem in college and in several games this year
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Did you know
that Lavelle Hawkins catches 77% of the balls thrown at him?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
well, hes gotten a lot of 4 yard crossing routes as the 4th read in the offense
so, that’s a little deceptive. but definitely better than expected
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
i haven't seen him drop catchable balls yet
"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
Watch the 1st Texans game
Britt alone dropped 3
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
i was talking about the Hawk
"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
that may be true. most of his drops came with the 0-6 start
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
that's what she said!
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lunch time
gonna go meet pac man for a nice buffet at scores.
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bring Kevlar
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Gramsey, we need to compile our all-prison team
I’m proud of that effort straight from memory
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply actions
Mason kills Pac as a returner
we can’t base it off of what would have happen, only what did happen. And what happened was Mase getting more return yards in 2000-2001 than Pac every got in his career. Flipping the field that often is just as good as one or two more TDs.
Mason had almost 3,000 return yards between 2000-2001 and 2003-2004
Mason was a workhorse and Pac was a flash in the pan. Pac could have been better, but as Jim Brown once said: It’s inherent in greatness that you actually do it.
That’s why Mase wins. Every time.
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Hal already left for lunch
or he’d threaten you with violence
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
nobody gave me heads up you all would need such simple correcting.
I mean I figured I could trust you guys to get something so easy to see correct…
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by August West on Dec 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
sorry a dub, but this requires fisking
Mase getting more return yards in 2000-2001 than Pac every got in his career
let’s stop right there. quantity of return yards is one of the worst stats you can use, because it’s based on number of opportunities which a player has no control over. 51 punt returns for mason in 2000 was insane, but he gets no credit for the defense forcing so many punts. average is the only way to keep it fair, otherwise you might end up rewarding guys for being mediocre a lot of times instead of for being very good a fewer number of times. oh wait, that’s exactly what you just did.
Flipping the field that often is just as good as one or two more TDs.
“flipping the field” implies long returns, which mason almost never provided. mason made his money on lots of 5-15 yard returns. and while being reliable is a plus, claiming mason flipped the field often is crazy. mason was adrian peterson, pac man was CJ. pretty sure you are already on record about who the best is there, so let’s keep it consistent. this brings us to….
Mason was a workhorse and Pac was a flash in the pan
quick, somebody get this man a purple jersey! but seriously, this is the part where i started to wonder who hacked august’s account and posted this nonsense. mason, was the definition of flash in the pan, especially when this decade is all you look at. mason had a great year in 2000, but his return numbers in every category took an immediate nose dive for the rest of his time in tennessee. i put the stats above. mason’s success was the flash in the pan, seeing as how he was below mediocre in his other 7 years here as a returner. look at the stats. 2000 was a complete aberration for mason as a returner.
Mason had almost 3,000 return yards between 2000-2001 and 2003-2004
yes, and 60% of those yards were in a single season. i thought you said he wasn’t a flash in the pan? nice attempt at making it look like he had 4 years worth mentioning though. that 3.9 yards per punt return over 24 returns in 2004 was quite an accomplishment. that’s right, 24 attempts and he didnt hit 100 yards. ouch.
Pac could have been better
nope, he was better. even if you do say mason’s performance in 2000 was better than pac’s best year, which i dont, pac’s only two years on the team completely annihilate every other year of mason’s career regardless of the decade. in fact, even chris carr in his only year here takes the 4th best season of the decade no sweat over anything else mason did, before or after 2000.
so in conclusion, august forgot his brain medicine this morning and pac man is still simply the best returner ever to play for the tennessee titans.
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ahem.
1) Total yards absolutely matter here! Tons of factors go into how many carries a running back gets or how many throws a QB gets, but total production can’t just be canned because of the number of carries. It helps paint the picture, but the production still matters.
2) even if I give you that both were a flash in the pan, Mason’s year dominates Pac’s career. Yardage matters.
3) You know what else matters? CATCHING THE DAMNED BALL. Pac managed to total 9 fumbles on fewer chances than Mason. I’m not even going to attribute that the stripper-pole brass wax. He just sucked at ball security.
Look, if I was going to pay for a ticket to just watch guys return kicks and punts I’d go to Pacman’s show, but if I’m getting a guy on my team to return kicks in a way that helps us win and not lose, I want Mason.
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Total yards do NOT matter with punts
because the punt returner isnt getting more punt returns due to his production, but because the defense forces that many punts. If a returner does well, the coach isn’t saying, “we need to get him 5 more punt returns next game.”
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
They might say that
It wouldn’t matter if they did, but you don’t know that they wouldn’t say that.
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I decided I couldnt put Pacman on there because it hurt my heart to put Pacman on the All-Decade team when Eddie George isn't
I am just saying, total yards don’t matter in punt returns.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be interested to see the % of our punts/kicks those years Mason returned
and what % Pac returned over his years. I seem to remember plenty of other guys getting chances to return when Pac was here. not so much with Mason.
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your most compelling argument is the fumbles. i was unaware of that
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
nope
mason was crappy except for one year when he was above average an inordinate number of times. great.
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just to be clear
Mason didn’t just turn crappy, he became our no.1 receiver, thus Fisher looked elsewhere.
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he was crappy before too
and he had 54 returns in 2001 and he was crappy.
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the only time he wasn't crappy
was when he had a ridiculous number of total returns, which was totally out of his control.
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I'll give-up the yardage fight
but the fumbles are a deal breaker. Even Ryan Mouton thinks 9 fumbles in 2 years is too much.
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all i have to say about the fumbles/muffs
is that mason was way worse as a rookie and i think pac would have gotten better with experience. you’re damn right i just played the “potential” card. i had been saving it for a desperate moment.
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the potential thing works the other way for me
because Pac and only Pac was responsible for it not coming to fruition.
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Nobody in football does anything on their own
but when you accumulate the stats, that’s what you judge by. I never said it was the end all reason, but it’s a part of the picture.
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dont matter
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
No one was listening when I tried to make that point.
Admittedly, I didn’t bother with the numbers and stuff.
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Okay,
who from MCM is on David Climer’s chat?
[Comment From Brad]
As you mention the tradition of dropping passes, don’t forget the tradition of horrible kick returning. I hate to say it, but I miss Pacman back there.
12:48
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions
probably Brad
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Since someone brought up a comparison of VY to..
Mcnair, I thought that VY’s drive agaisnt the Cardinals was very similar to the Superbowl final drive. Don’t want to be blasphemous, but …
when it happened matters
Super Bowl vs. Meaningless game in which the other team had their backup QB in
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah....no comparison...
I was replying to the comment that gramsey made about HATTEN on VY….LOL
VINCE YOUNG DID NOT GET ONE SINGLE VOTE????
STOP HATTEN!!!!!!!!1
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone
have the video from that game where Bennett dropped that pass? Id love to see it again
why would you want to see probably the second worse moment for Titans fans.....
next to Kevin Dyson (why is he not here…..did I just start something?) failed lunge for the endzone?
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
It was hideous.
There is NO WAY you want to see that again. First off, because that was the “Sun Lamp” game, in which we spent an entire week wondering how the cold would affect Tennessee, only to have Javon Kearse eventually say, “Yeah. I called Mother Nature, and she’s gonne hook them up with some kind of special sun lamps that only they can feel. So we’ll be the only ones who’re cold out there.” It was like 3 degrees, and Eddie was still in short sleeves!
And if Bennett makes that catch, Tom Brady never even gets half as famous as he is now.
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wow!!!
does this post have legs!!! lol!!
ok, the only position i would have any real beef with is the return position. i would replace mason with pacman. for all the trouble he caused off the field he was a real good return man. the only slight beef i have is with kvb gettin the nod over kevin carter at end. carter should take kvb spot at end and tony brown should have made it as one of the tackles.
"Good things come to those who keep fighting"
wow, Drew Bennett
just wow.
anyways, slightly off-topic here: can we start a petition to keep CJ off of next year’s Madden cover? His dreads gracing the Madden 11 cover is the last thing I wanna see.
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by TitanFan2K on Dec 17, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I dont want to see him on there at all....
not even in the manual…nowhere except for when I turn the Xbox on…
by Bonafidebrother on Dec 17, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't think he will be on there.
The Titans are the only team to have even two players on the cover over the years so I can’t see another Titan getting put on there. I would guess that Peyton Manning will finally be put on there.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
2,000 yards is convincing though
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I would imagine Peyton has been asked
and has turned it down.
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he was on he cover of a crappy football game earlier in the decade
I owned it
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by T--Rac's Posse on Dec 17, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
then Brees?
Woodson?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
it may depend on the new feature of madden 11
like when the HIT STICK was introduced, the cover is Ray Lewis.
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you know......
i never really thought about that until you said that…….2 titans already being on the cover of madden (eddie and vince). hopefully cj will stay off the cover. manning is a good choice……maybe even drew bress or adrian peterson (a.d. only because of how popular he is)
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schulters was an all-pro in 02
dont know what that means.. but it means something very small. that his name shoudl be mentioned at least in teh comments of this or something.
He was talked about
And, to be honest, he is probably #3.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
there is a position missing there
LS
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by Pinoy Titan on Dec 17, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That is a good call
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Added.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
why is Zach Piller there instead of Benji Olson?
some stats
Games Played :
Piller 87
Olson 152
Games Started
Piller 58
Olson 140
?
"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
Piller was a better guard
they were both very good, but Piller was more dominant, IMO… plus Olson jumped offsides a lot (going from memory).
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New sh*t has come to light, man:
Bless PFR for their accurate and detailed stats…
Pac was so awesome in 2006 that he didn’t even get the majority of kick returns: Bobby Wade got 50 to Pacs 20.
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When was the last time that happened?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
When Pacman did it
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Dec 17, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
To NOT FUMBLE THE DAMNED BALL
and score a TD if you can. But mostly, don’t fumble the ball.
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August just used PFR against hal.....
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
too easy
teams were obviously kicking away from him. thanks for proving the point. no one would have EVER thought to kick away from mason because he killed you with paper cuts for 1 out of 7 seasons.
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We weren't using 2 return men at once on kick-offs back then, were we?
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Pacman led the league in punt return average in 2006, better than Devin Hester
Derrick Mason led the league in being a douche.
well if we're going there
Pac also lead the league in games suspended for 2007
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august just doesn't want our all decade team
to have a sick back up cornerback/cocaine hookup
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Apparently T. Henry had the good good!
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a little bit of a flaw here
you say that you put michael griffin on the list because of his one good year (I.E: last year) but you left pacman off the list because he “only” did it for two seasons?
griffin did it for one and, while i think he can get back to a top-tier safety next year, pacman deserves a spot.
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