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Titans 34 49ers 27: Winning is More Fun

To say I am shocked by the turn around this team has made would be an understatement.  After the debacle that was the Patriots game, I really thought 2 wins was best case scenario for this team.  I didn't think we would see them play inspired football again until 2010.  I knew a switch to Vince Young was imminent, but I really didn't think it would make a difference.  Being wrong has never felt so good.

Yesterday's win was a good one.  The 49ers are a solid team, and that west coast trip has been a nightmare for even the best Titan teams.  The best thing about these past two games has been the return to the type of football that this team was designed to play, and a lot of that has been due to the play of Vince Young.  VY has been everything Kerry Collins was supposed to be and more.  He has been efficient, 12 of 19 yesterday, has taken care of the ball, 0 interceptions and fumbles in his 2 starts, and has made plays with his legs to help the team.  Just look at yesterday's 7-yard touchdown run.  That dimension gives teams one more thing to guard against in the red zone.

And, of course, there is Chris Johnson.  This guy is having a special season and has a legitimate shot at 2,000 rushing yards.  T-Rac's Posse doesn't think it will happen, and while I will give him that it is a long shot, the Titans have three games left against team with rush defenses ranked 27th or worse. 

You can make the argument that he single-handedly won the game yesterday when he scored on that option play on 4th and inches.  Pretty funny that Peter King gives Mike Heimerdinger coach of the week because if CJ doesn't get in there the Titans probably lose the game and all the talk here would be about Dinger's terrible play calling (and it was a TERRIBLE call).

Star-divide

How about the return of 12 Gage?!?  Justin Gage has to be the most frustrating wide receiver in the league.  It seems like in his 3 years here he has been everything from a legitimate #1 receiver to the one of the worst receivers in the league every single season.  When he is playing well, like he is right now, he gives this team a solid possession guy and a deep threat that makes plays like this:

The biggest turnaround has come from the defense and it is my opinion that most of that is because the secondary has gotten healthy.  The only time a receiver was downfield all by himself yesterday was the touchdown right before the half, and that looked to me to be because Cortland Finnegan left his assignment because Alex Smith looked like he was going to run.  While those types of things still really need to be fixed, I will take one a game over the 42 we saw each game earlier in the season.

The defense has also done something else that was a foreign concept earlier in the season, force turnovers.  Yesterday they picked Smith off three times and forced three fumbles.  From the why did it take them 5 weeks to sign this guy file, Rod Hood had his second interception in as many games.  Frank Wycheck said on the radio this morning that Nick Harper will get his spot back when he is healthy.  I think the next MCM petition might need to be one that demands Harper remain on the sideline.

Things are starting to look better around these parts.  The Titans have a game they should win this weekend when Buffalo comes to town before running the @ Houston, Arizona, @ Indy gauntlet. 

Food for thought/discussion; these two wins have come in large part due to a couple of things/people that make Jeff Fisher look bad in the form of VY and Hood, so while it obviously benefits Fisher's job security to get these wins does it hurt him at the same time because he didn't make these moves earlier?

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When you pose the Fisher question like that

I think you have to look at it both ways. He and his staff have managed to put a few different peices on the field and make some key adjustments that have allowed us to turn this train wreck around in the past two weeks. At the same time why did he have to wait until his job security was threatend by the owner to make said changes? That may be the question that lingers the longest and could lead to the end of the Fisher era. Though a winning second half of the season could make most forget all the wrongs and have a what have you done for me lately outlook.

As for Dinger he made some questionable play calls for sure, but lets look at some of the plays we saw this past weekend. There was the attempeted pass by CJ to Scaife in the endzone, a couple of old school college options, and the one where VY looked like he was going to run then he threw an incomplete pass to Gauge (I think). Though some of these plays were called at questionable times, and none of them went for big gains, thew were pretty creative. This is the one thing that everyone here was whishing for just a few short weeks ago. From wanting the wildcat to just more creative playcalling… I just thought it was refreshing to see some new things in the offense.

by bullrider73 on Nov 9, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

its time to go figure skater on nick harpers arm. he cant return as a starter.

and isnt it amazing what a bit of blitzing can do?

by mattd97 on Nov 9, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

True....

….Nick is a Cover 2 Corner. Rod Hood has the hot hand. Harper has to go.

MrDeeboi33

by MrDeeboi33 on Nov 9, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

which makes me ask the question Why in the hell was Hood on the street a few weeks ago and not playing somewhere?

by bullrider73 on Nov 9, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And especially why wasn't he playing here

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by Jimmy on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He said he didn't get cut from Cleveland because of his play.

He said he was thrilled to get out of there because of Mangini.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Nov 9, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think wins will be all that matters with Fisher by seasons end

By Week 15, if we’re hovering around .500 these talks of Fisher being fired will be long gone, especially with his contract (which Bud Adams hinted at).

by T--Rac's Posse on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The front office made some BAD calls to start the season…

…but I don’t think you can hang them for the QB situation. Coming off a 13-3 season, it was unreasonable to think they would go away from starting KC at the beginning of the year. Now maybe you could make the point that they should have made the switch after the Jets or Jags game, but then you’re throwing VY to the wolves vs. Indy and New England, and I personally don’t think that’s the plan. A better question: how/why did we basically marry KC over the offseason. The man got a pretty big payday for mediocre play last season, record notwithstanding. I mean, yeah, maybe Kerry made some plays that Vince wasn’t ready to make last year—there’s definitely evidence of that—but at the end of the season, was he REALLY a better option than say Chris Simms? Seriously? He managed games for a GREAT team. We all said at the time that he was replaceable, and indeed, this year he’s proven to be exactly that.

If you want to hang the front office, then hang them for the return/CB situation. Specifically, we let Chris Carr walk when we had plenty of cap room to spare. He could have been promoted ahead of Nick Harper without the Defense losing a step, but more than that, with that much money available under the cap, they could have just paid the man. Seriously, the idea that you were gonna let Carr and King go and just replace them with two rookies was insane. Meanwhile, having no plan for the Return Game seems to be one of Fisher’s consistent failings as a Head Coach.

With all that said, I still think Fisher has done a great job of keeping the locker room and turning things around. Yes, it helps to have people back on Defense, but at the same time, the guys are obviously also playing harder now. Gage is the perfect example, but he’s hardly the only one. Both Safeties are also playing better, and that’s even from where they were against the Steelers back when everyone was still healthy at the start of the season.

To me, it looks like Fisher used the Bye Week to step in and get some control/quality control in a couple of critical areas. I also think he started the year a little shell-shocked from Steve McNair’s death and perhaps a little underprepared based on hubris from last year’s success. Maybe Fisher himself wasn’t underprepared, but certainly his Secondary was. And his receivers had alligator arms, and his QB was off-target. I mean, there was a lot going on there. Even in that first game of the season, KC was hideously bad in the fourth quarter. It’s just that it only got obvious and out of control at the end of the Jets game.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

by DannoE on Nov 9, 2009 2:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty well reasoned analysis.

As a VY supporter, I have held it against Fisher that he didn’t go to Vince sooner, although the concerns over what would have happened (particularly against New England) are quite valid. Vince has always thrived when the moment was big, and he is great at building upon momentum. Starting with a win, at home, against the Jags, seems to have done wonders for his confidence, and I don’t think that he would have made the difference against NE or Indy.

That being said, doesn’t credit need to go to Bud Adams instead of Fisher? If your boss says “do this or you’re fired” and you do it, you shouldn’t get credit for it. I know we don’t know precisely what happened, but it certainly seems like Fisher would have stuck with Collins if left to his own devices.

by ctex80 on Nov 9, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then what about Cecil?

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Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We don't see the inner workings of the staff, so it's hard to judge. But...

…we do know a few things:
1) Cecil was very good as the Secondary Coach.
2) The Secondary has had more breakdowns than the D-Line or LBers put together.
3) Cecil was known to blitz as a player and probably has feelings about the right and wrong way to do it.

That’s why I tend to think that the problem was specifically with the Secondary being under-prepared—and hence, on that specific coach preparing his group. We don’t know that, of course, but that’s my guess.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

by DannoE on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really liked.....

most of he plays called, but you’re right, that option on the goal line was not the best of calls. I actually yelled at the TV on that one.

I don’t know. Maybe it was a good call. They did score after all.

Big Bill "You never lose a game if the opponent doesn't score." Darell K. Royal

by Hook em Titans on Nov 9, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Loved the catch

First time I’ve seen it.

Damn you, WREG, and damn you, CBS for not showing the game in Memphis.

by Rustmeister on Nov 9, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

For real

How do you not show a TENNESSEE TITANS game in WEST Tenn! At least I had the game on the radio.

by Reinhold Messner on Nov 10, 2009 3:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What I love most:

The team didn’t quit with Vince. They had looked like quitters with Collins in the lineup the first six games. I think a lot of people said that Vince quit on his teammates, and that his teammates wouldn’t play for him, but I think that’s proving to not be a concern at all.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, but it’s very promising to see the team pulling together and playing some decent football.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 9, 2009 3:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

did u get the chance.....

to see michael irvins evaluation on NFL network of the play since VY has taken over the reins, seems those concussions have not effected his ability to see things that are right in front of him. if everybody didnt see it i suggest you take a look.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

things would have been alot....

more funner if the decision to bring VY off the bench was made sooner, but as i thought all along, that damn contract KC signed last year weighed heavily on that decision for fish since it was up to him at the time. but finally a smart decision was made by the owner to bring in Young, and here we are on a two game win streak with him off the bench as opposed to the 0 and 6 start with him on the bench. now im not here to gloat and say that VY is the only reason we are winning, b/c he isnt, a healthy defense and great performances by CJ are GREAT contributions. but i believe it all comes down to the play of VY and what he can bring to the table, which is something that he always could but fans have seem to forgot about that. making defenses account for his abilites to both run AND THROW the ball have opened up the run game for CJ, hesistation kills, and just a little is helping to spring CJ for big runs. and i would think his production has risen since VY has stepped under center, yes its only been 2 games, but he did break the franchise record in one of those (unlike alot of ppl, i dont have the stats right in front of me). and his abilitiy to make plays with his legs are both moving the chains by himself and giving WR’s time to come back to the ball for gains. and yes as i said both the D and CJ are starting to run on all cylidners, but VY brings the emotion, the intensity, and the passion that will raise others games as well. the players are starting to play their asses off for VY if ppl want to believe it or not, they see their leader giving it his all to win the game, they want to match that intensity and that is what your seeing on the field as of late. the man is a winner and everybody in that locker room can see it (so much for them not wanting to play for him huh????), when is the last time you saw KC go to the receiver to correct the problem that just happened on the field, or for that fact any of the players surrounding KC when he was the QB, all that should speak volumes. and ppl, he is not done nor should he be evaluated on just these last two performances, he is going to get better and get that rust off. but at the same time dont expect perfection, this is the NFL and qb’s will struggle, but for right now if getting the rust off is just getting his timing down w/ his WR’s, ill take that any day than him throwing picks. i hope he continues to grow and become that more better for the sake of the titans b/c i do think he can lead this team, it may not be the traditional way alot of you ppl are used to seeing…now, but give the man time to learn and see what he can develop into, he may continue to surprise alot of you. keep the man on the field, he knows how to win, and all the things that have happened in the past are exactly that….IN THE PAST. focus on the now and the future, this is a changed man with his head on straight, and i think he will strive. for himself, for the team, and for mncair. and somewheres hes up there smiling.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you wrote a novel

"We really feel like we can go 10-0 in these last ten games...we’re trying to do something nobody has ever done." Chris Johnson
"This is the only building in the NHL that the fans get up and cheer for no apparent reason just to support us." - Dan Ellis

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He also started it off with "alot more funner"

and then i stopped.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 9, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if that's all you got....

im glad you didnt waste your brain power reading it. wouldnt have heard from you in a while…….on second thought, try reading it. left to right, top to bottom, come back for any helpful hints.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

helpful hints?

Try putting it in paragraph form or something so people will read it.

"We really feel like we can go 10-0 in these last ten games...we’re trying to do something nobody has ever done." Chris Johnson
"This is the only building in the NHL that the fans get up and cheer for no apparent reason just to support us." - Dan Ellis

Official Graphic Designer/Researcher/Grammar Police of MCM.
Official Graphic Goon of OTF.

by Aditya T (smashville) on Nov 9, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

didnt mean....

to hurt your mans feelings.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it should be.....

published.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its true, damn! That a was a long read

And this come from a VY supporter, my eyes are still hurting.

by Lord_Drist on Nov 9, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

still appreciate.....

the effort, sorry about the length, sometimes i get going i dont think about the indentions and paragraphs. lol so sue me.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Nov 9, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

its cool

really good book btw nice forrest gump ending lol

Que Where?!?!

by SouthTexasTitan on Nov 9, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, that play call was soooooo bad.

I was talking about how bad it was even after the touchdown.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 9, 2009 5:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the play call was questionable

they stuffed the Titans on 3rd. I can see running outside, but on the short side of the field

by Great Paperclip on Nov 9, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

People keep saying this, but we scored right?

I don’t think a play call can be classified as “bad” if the desired result is a success. Everyone wants to give all the credit to CJ for saving that play. But, Dinger calls that play because he knows what CJ is capable of. That’s the point. He was confident enough in his abilities that he recognized that if CJ got the pitch, he was fast enough to get to the edge.

by SuperHorn on Nov 9, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You're wrong.

We should have scored more than a touchdown on that play. ;-)

by Baha on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

cj only made the edge

because the LB blew the tackle. a sure tackle there and we probably lose. giving an unblocked LB a free shot 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage is NEVER a good play call on 4th and inches, ever. this is just one of those times it’s better to be lucky than good.

The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.

by hal41605 on Nov 10, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose

I just think it’s tough to second guess a call when it works. That’s not to say that I wouldn’t have called something different.

by SuperHorn on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it was a great play by cj

but the play call really put him behind the 8 ball with the game on the line. why not a VY sneak? of course the guy can fall forward and get 2 feet. pitching the ball 3-4 yards deep to a guy with an unblocked linebacker right on him? if the LB simply makes the tackle, there would be a pitchfork mob at baptist sports park.

The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.

by hal41605 on Nov 10, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hood has been in the right spots

at the right time for his interceptions. He got help from the offical doing a partial screen play on Tory Holt for his 1st INT and the 2nd INT was due to Griffin getting his hands in front of the receiver and keeping the ball alive. I really haven’t paid too much attention to him in coverage and how well he has been playing but I’m not about to call him a ball hawk by any means.

Taylor Mays > Eric Berry

by SoCalTitan on Nov 9, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was at the Jags game

me and Michaeltastic (I think) both agreed that the ref screen wasn’t necessary for that pick. It did help with yards though

by Great Paperclip on Nov 9, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really think the team quit on KC and Fisher

If you think about it, as the season progressed and the loses started mounting you could clearly see the play of the WR’s and TE dropping accordingly.

by Lord_Drist on Nov 9, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah it was like the team was going to force fisher to play vince.

  the owner, team and alot of us fans knew to start vince. just like the returner mistake, fisher refused to acknowledge it untill it was to late and cost us a spot in the playoffs.

by dentureboy on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on this website. ever.

Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...

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by Michaeltastic on Nov 9, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Let me explain

I didn’t mean that the players quit in a concerted effort to put VY in the game. But I really think that the frustration of losing and not seeing any change, not only in the QB position but also make any adjustment in defense and offense got to the players to the point they stop trying to play hard. After 0 – 6 and how they lost to the Patriots does point into that direction.

by Lord_Drist on Nov 9, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree dentureboy

Thank You Vince Young, I Feel Like A Winner!

by pigskinpundits.com on Nov 9, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

me too.

i guess we are all the stupidest people in the world.

by Baha on Nov 9, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the game was like a really exciting college game

fun game to watch. CJ is AMAZING! Best Titans talent, ever?

Fisher will ride CJ’s coattails all the way to a contract extension

Thank You Vince Young, I Feel Like A Winner!

by pigskinpundits.com on Nov 9, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You guys are crazy

that options was a GREAT call. I’ll say it again like I did in the other post this morning, lol. Johnson to the corner is always the best call. Even when I watched it it looked as though he would not make it. But twinkle toes tip-toed into the end zone. So bad ass. GOTTA LOVE THE CALL.

by palpacino on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i do agree that VY pitched a bit early

but, the play was to get the ball to CJ’s hands, which Vince did and the result was as good as any other possible play.

by Baha on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Love the play calling.

The 2 rushes and a short pass is too predictable. Great to see the option, the halfback pass, the deep ball and the QB draw. Let those mfer’s plan for all of that.

by Baha on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hope Fisher doesn’t put Harper back ahead of Hood…

… Hood is playing better than Harper was. I know Coach tends to be loyal but he shouldn’t mess with what’s working…

I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...

by steeler-hater on Nov 10, 2009 7:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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