Tennessee Titans Morning Links: For The Truth Shall Set You Free Edition
by August West on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 AM CST
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Chris Johnson ripped-off almost 200 yards on the ground against the Texans in week 2, and this time around he's looking to ditch the 'almost' in that statement. If he has another game like that on the Monday Night stage, you're going to see him become on of the most popular players in the league. I'd guess if he breaks 180 his jersey sales will hit top 5 by the Cardinals game.
Ok, so you remember how Texans owner Bob McNair called their week 2 victory 'The biggest win in franchise history'? (That's cute isn't it?) Well I'm starting to feel bad about that, because should our boys stomp them Monday Night it's almost like we would have made all their dreams come to life, then slayed them as quickly as they came... just like that line in Laid to Rest, by Lamb of God! Took the long way around for the set-up to this week's Friday Tasty Jam.
The Big Marine, Ahmard Hall, came up with a very fitting nickname for Vince Young as he heads back to his hometown looking to cement his resurgence:
Mayor of Houston
No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No. Somebody tell Fisher that we don't care about the past three years because we're in the now now. Everything that's happening now, is happening now. We can't go back to then. Why? Because we passed it. When? Just now! ( FYI: I have to bring that quote out twice a year. It's in my contract.)
Follow us through the jump as we try to forget the pain of that last link...
I 100% agree with T-Rac's Posse on this one: it's way too early to be thinking playoffs. I do wonder though, who in T-Rac's Posse is the party supplies guy? No need to be all obvious about it though, just a little wink would do...
At least some folks in Houston realize there's the distinct possibility they're about to prance into a buzzsaw on a very big stage...
Since Fisher isn't all the way out of the woods yet, here's a list of the hottest coaching commodities heading into the offseason. At least there's a nice mix of wily veterans and burgeoning talent should we be in the market.
Just a refresher to remind everyone why Monday's game is going to be physical no matter how it turns out.
How crazy is it that we're finally a relevant team in fantasy football circles?
For all the complaints people have about Bud, at least he's not Daniel Snyder. Read the second paragraph of this list for a crash course in how ruin a storied franchise.
I heart Taylor Mays. Please don't come with a bunch of comments about where he went to school because he could have played for the Appalachia School for the Blind and I'd still take him no.2 behind Eric Berry. Yeah I said it: the two best players in the draft, by a mile, are safeties.
This list from Houston Press writer John Royal is classic if you're up-to-date on your Houston sports journalists:
2. Speaking of which, I'm sure John McClain is working on a column right now reminding us all that Bud is just misunderstood and that all he ever wanted to do was to be liked.
8. If Texans win, Justice calls Gary Kubiak a genius for drafting Williams.
9. If Texans lose, Justice calls Charley Casserly an idiot for drafting Williams.
21. There will be a discussion of Vince Young's problems from last year. By everybody except Richard Justice.
and this gem:
25. Bob McNair will be called a class gentlemen. As will the entire team. But most fans would probably prefer a playoff team.
Every time you read a great Titans-related story on the web and don't share it with the MCM community through the fanposts, fanshots or by emailing me at mcmaugustwest@gmail.com Matt Schaub gains one health point. Is that what you want?!!!!?!?!
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Love, love, love the Spaceballs reference!
-What’s all this bubbling and churning?
-Mr. Coffee! Would you care for some, sir?
-Yes. I always drink coffee while I watch radar. Everybody got that?
-Of course we do, Sir!
If I hit a hole-in-one on this grand slam the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by jasonkylebates on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is Fisher high or what?
Seriously? I wasn’t originally in the “Fire Fisher” camp but if he puts Harper back in and our secondary starts getting torched again I will be. Hood has been nothing but lights out. Why fix it if it’s not broken? This news really pisses me off. Seems like the best “coaching” moves this year were results from injuries (Harper getting hurt), blind luck (Hood actually being on the street), and calls from the owner (VY).
F*CK!!!
by Titan9 on Nov 20, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I guess that fisher's logic about injuries not costing players there starting job...
does not apply to the QB position. I seem to remember him stating that as long as we were winning (which we are) he would not change QB’s just because VY was healthy.
Back To The Future
by Voluntitan23 on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
+1
and rec’d.
Fisher is a mush-melon fuckwit.
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And this...
Defensive coordinator Chuck Cecil said Harper played well before he was injured.
…makes me think that Cecil is as much of a brain-trust as his batshit crazy boss.
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This staff will say whatever it takes to the media to defend their players
and it doesn’t 100% mean that’s what will happen on the field. That’s why players love them and play their butts off for them.
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
They SAY Harper is going to play, and if we were still down to Mouton and company, I bet he would. However, I bet we won’t actually see ol’ Nick back for at least three weeks.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
by DannoE on Nov 20, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I assume you mean from the Cecil comment and not the VY incident, since Fisher totally threw VY under the bus and stuck with Collins because we were winning.
If my assumption is correct, and you are talking about Cecil’s comment, then fine, I’ll agree with you. But he said that Harper played well, not that Harper had good practices or bolstered the team in the locker room or watered coach’s lawn during the bye week.
He said he played well which is not debatable: it’s patently untrue.
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding on the VY part, right?
Fisher went out of his way to defend Vince last year, and never admitted that there was anything other than the injury that was an issue even when the rest of the word knew he was full of it. Fisher didn’t throw VY under the bus, VY put a brick on the pedal and jumped under the tire while Fisher was saying there was no bus. That’s what good coaches do.
They’ll always defend players even if they know they’re toast (see Thompson, Lamont and Kearse, Jevon). They’re under no obligation to be brutally honest at the expense of their players.
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Fisher believed in VY
Then why did Collins continue to be the starter?
We were winning- agree with it or not, it was the decision that Fisher made at the time.
Now, we are in a similar (not exactly the same, mind you) situation, and Fisher says he doesn’t believe that starters should lose their starting job due to injury.
ORLY?! I’m not talking about Fisher “defending” VY to the media, I’m talking about our starting quarterback losing his job to a backup due to injury because we were winning.
That’s what I meant by “thrown under the bus.”
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Upon further review
I think we’re talking about two different things.
I agree with you that coaches should defend players to the media, although I don’t think that includes claiming that someone is playing well when they clearly are/were not.
However, I have a huge problem with Fisher’s assessment that players should not lose their starting jobs due to injury when he did exactly the opposite last season.
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got ya know.
Agreed that it’s amazingly hypocritical, but some part of me just doesn’t believe that Harper will be back until I see it…
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean Kearse isn't on the injury report either...
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true
I wonder what Fisher actually said about starting, since he also said
“You’ve got a plate, you’ve got screws, you’ve got a fracture,” Fisher said. “Even though medically the doctor says you’re not going to subject yourself to more damage or injury, that type of injury just takes time.”
This may be an “out” for letting Harper “recuperate” on the sidelines once he comes back.
by TNTitans on Nov 20, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Classic quote:
Fisher didn’t throw VY under the bus, VY put a brick on the pedal and jumped under the tire while Fisher was saying there was no bus.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
by DannoE on Nov 20, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, that was a great line. Especially the part about there was no bus.
Probably my favorite line of the year so far.
by Joy kat on Nov 20, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You would think August is right...
the coaches obviously see what’s been happening on the field the last 3 weeks. Seems like they wouldn’t try to fix it if it’s not broke. I mean, after all, they’ve got a big incentive to do whatever it takes to win, right? That incentive being to KEEP THEIR JOBS!!
by titansfan4ever on Nov 20, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And just to play Devil's advocate...
and definitely NOT because this is what I actually believe but what if Harper was playing well and it was the schemes and calls that were sucking?
Again, NOT what I believe but thought I’d throw that out there.
by Titan9 on Nov 20, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're not mutually exclusive.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
by DannoE on Nov 20, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But what if they actually think he was playing well?
by Titan9 on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/shudder
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"The Biggest Win In Franchise History"
In our defense, some idiot in the organization says that after every time we win a big game. They said it last year twice. I am pretty sure it has been said at least twice this year, too.
But, you are right. If Tenn wins on Monday Night, it will be devastating to Houston’s season.
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by Mike Kerns on Nov 20, 2009 10:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mays is the 3rd best safety
He needs to be doing more… struggled with Gerhart. If he wasn’t so freakish looking, would he get the same amount of love? I don’t buy the “playing to not get injured” story… like reading body language, IMO. But if he looks like that, it’s troubling regardless.
McShay’s got Mays as his #3 S, after Earl Thomas, RS-Soph from Texas. Thomas looked horrible at times last year, like the effort and instincts were lacking, but he has been absolutely dominant in every phase of the game this year. He’s making plays in the backfield, in run support, and has been an absolute ballhawk. Compare the production:
Thomas- 6 INT, 2 TD, 48 tackles, 29 solo, 3 for a loss, 18 passes deflected, 1 forced fumble. 5’10, 200, 4.4 speed, 20 yrs old
Mays- 1 INT, 73 tackles, 37 solo, 0 for a loss, 2 passes deflected, 0 forced fumbles. 6’3 230, 4.4 speed, 21 yrs old.
Thomas is putting up those numbers with opponents having run 356 pass plays and 306 rushing plays, so 662 total plays. Mays is putting up those numbers with opponents having run 362 rushing plays and 351 pass plays, so 713 total plays. So if you correct for the higher # of rushes Mays sees, you get about the same rate of solo tackles. Texas has the #37 SOS and USC is #45, so it’s not like Thomas is racking up numbers against the aforementioned Appalachia
No doubt Mays is a thumper, but I’d take the guy who excels against the pass in this league. Thomas has some time to fill out and the guy is getting better every week.
Not sure any amount of combine stats, highlight reel hits and eye candy can overcome the disparity in their 2009 play.
by WC22 on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The reason Mays gets so much love
Is that he is always late on the play and uses the “USC/Polamalu elbow to the head” and makes big nasty hits. Sometimes to his own teammates. I have never seen him do anything that would make me want him on my team.
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by gramsey712 on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy Brown
He’s the inventor of that move.
I’d rather have a guy who plays like Ed Reed.
by WC22 on Nov 20, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I completely believe Mays will be better as a pro
than he’s been as a senior.
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with this
He looks like a NFL player.
Oh, and wink.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Nov 20, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a posse without one!
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone catch the video of Andre Johnson...
on the left side of the page of the “some folks in Houston realize” link. He talks about Finny being annoying and about his trash talking. Pretty funny really.
by back2smashmouth on Nov 20, 2009 11:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
"trash talking" is going to be the least of AJ's problems on Monday Night.
by titansfan4ever on Nov 20, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can be a big asset, IMO, as long as he doesn’t get caught up in it himself and commit stupid personal fouls. It really looks like it wears on some of these guys and gets them playing outside themselves. TO made a few plays, but seemed to lose all mental toughness as the game went on and he just quit on his QB. That stuff isn’t gonna affect AJ though, that guy is a pro.
by WC22 on Nov 20, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YOUR MY BOY MAYS!!!
Mays has definitly looked bad this year to years previous but I attribute it to one thing and that he misses Kevin Ellison. He was USC other Safety last year before entering the draft and their play together was one of the reasons why USC defense specifically pass defense was so great. They had a bond that had developed over the last few years that allowed them to know each others moves without speaking. They were a great tandem…
Taylor Mays > Eric Berry
by SoCalTitan on Nov 20, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's missing those LBs as well
you don’t lose 4 guys from one unit to the top half of the draft in one year and not feel it…
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
Its hard to be great when almost your whole defense has changed but I think its great that he stayed. Keith Rivers and Rey Maualuga both could have came out after their junior year and been 1st round picks but stayed to become better players.
Taylor Mays > Eric Berry
by SoCalTitan on Nov 20, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So...Chuck... What day is it?
“Obviously, Nick is coming back so he’s probably going to get the lion’s share of the work to get the rust off,” Cecil said. “But as far as what we’re going to do on Sunday, we’ll find out on Sunday.”
or Monday. WTFE.
by palpacino on Nov 20, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Mays has "Roy Williams" written all over him
and that’s not a compliment
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GET OUT OF MY WAY, ALL OF YOU. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR LOAFERS. JOIN ME OR DIE. CAN YOU DO ANY LESS?
by TitanFan2K on Nov 20, 2009 2:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
boooooooooooooooo you!
that’s a mean thing to say about any football player
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by August West on Nov 20, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Caption:
Quit tryin’ to high-five me and go get yer friggin’ check book!
Best of the year, by a wide margin. I laughed out loud.
by SuperHorn on Nov 20, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I believe ADub brought his A game on the links today
Strong effort all the way around.
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by gramsey712 on Nov 20, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's never too early ..
.. to think playoffs. It’s just too early to start betting on it.
by Rustmeister on Nov 20, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But you get better odds
If you bet on it now.
by Antoniemey on Nov 21, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can we put a ban on the word "playoffs"
at least until we’re 6-6
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by TitanFan2K on Nov 21, 2009 2:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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