Jeff Fisher's Monday Press Conference
Jeff Fisher held his weekly spin session today. Here are some of the more interesting points:
Here is what Fisher said today about why Kerry Collins will continue to start:
One in particular is that we won 13 games with him last year. We hadn't won a game with Vince (Young) at that point.
Well that makes perfect sense to me. He was good last year so it doesn't really matter that has been bad this year.
He went on to say:
I think Kerry's not the problem. Kerry's been making plays and putting the ball where it needs to be put. I'm not pleased with the interceptions but other than that going over the last few weeks Kerry's made some great throws and made some plays. We just need to play better around him.
He is right. Kerry did make some plays yesterday against the Jaguars prevent defense. Who cares if he didn't make any plays when it actually mattered.
(on if there are any coaching or personnel changes coming)
No.
Come on now. Did you really expect him to say anything else?
(on if there's a need to get back to the run)
We stayed with the run. We stayed with the run last week as well. We stayed with the run trailing the Jets and that gave us a chance to get back in it. We stayed with the run as long as we could. C.J.'s leading the AFC in yards from scrimmage and he's the leading rusher right now in the AFC, maybe even the NFL depending on what happens tonight. So, we're getting some yards on the ground. It's one of those areas where we have to do better at. We've got to get better at running the football.
Don't they say that admitting you have a problem is the first step in correcting it? If that is the case, this team will never make an improvements because Fisher will never admit a mistake.
(on if Kenny Britt needs more of a workload in the offense)
I believe Kenny Britt is leading the NFL as far as rookie receivers are concerned. I would say based on that he's been involved in the offense.
So there is no reason to get him more involved because he is doing good compared to the rest of the rookie receivers. Again, makes perfect sense.
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Id say Britt is leading all rookie receivers
Oh, and he’s leading ALL THE TITANS RECEIVERS. So clearly he doesn’t need more work.
He comes off like he’s just pissed that he has to even answer questions.
Who doesn't want to be a promiscuous dope fiend?
I was just about to post this.
That first comment is absolutely infuriating. How do you win a game when you’re injured?
Hey, Fish. I’ve got some news for you. KERRY HASN’T WON A GAME AT THIS POINT. And, he’s played a full game. 4 of them in fact.
And saying that Vince hasn't won a game is, at best, disingenuous.
Vince hasn’t PLAYED a game. Granted, I’m not sure Vince will win when he plays—I’m still not a believer in the VY department—but what Fisher said is an obvious falacy of logic.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I feel...
Jeff Fisher is going through a mental break down!
by datboybevans on Oct 6, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never been more frustrated with Fisher
This is just plain arrogance
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
www.manningface.com
If you want to hear real arrogance, listen to the audio.
Skip ahead to about the 23 minute mark when they ask the Kerry question and then the Kenny Britt question. He just sounds livid.
How much you wanna bet
upper management’s been asking him the same thing for the past 24 hours that the media asked him today? Right or wrong, Fisher’s been in the NFL long enough to make his own personnel decisions, and won’t let peer pressure change his mind.
If Collins throws a couple picks and gets sacked 5 times Sunday night, that might change his mind, though…
NOTHING
will change Captain Ahab’s mind, NOTHING.
If Collins starts again Sunday, let Fisher make his personnel decisions somewhere else next year.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it!!
I apologize to whomever it was I blasted for being “rash” in calling for Fisher’s ouster a couple of weeks ago. I don’t know a lot of people here yet, so I don’t know who you were; but, I’m sorry.
With this press conference – blaming injuries now, sticking with a 37-year-old QB at 0-4, and the lame excuse as to why Kerry Collins is starting indefinitely………………………………Let me tell you, the moment Kerry Collins takes that first snap against Indianapolis, I’m officially on board with the “Fire Fisher” folks. As far as I’m concerned, that’s the moment you know that (along with the playing of Collins for every snap this past week) it’s time to go in a new direction.
Enough is enough! I’m tired of going down with Captain Ahab. Let’s get a new captain – preferrably one with enough of a sense of humility to recognize that he’s not perfect, so that by recognizing it, he can become a better coach along the way. Jeff Fisher is the same coach he was 16 years ago – and it’s no longer quaint.
16 years of coaching, and we’re hearing lame excuses now: “we were just an onside kick away…” “We’d hadn’t won a game with Vince yet at that point….” “understand that we have had injuries!…”
As of that first Collins snap this Sunday night, I’m ready for a new Head Coach – someone with a sense of urgency, and someone who does not feel their job is completely secure. Most of all, someone who understands the importance of having a franchise QB to be a consistent contender in the modern-day NFL.
Let Fisher go elsewhere at that point, and trade him Collins for some Draft picks.
I don’t care who hates me for it — when Collins takes that first snap, I’m 100% in the “Fire Jeff Fisher” crowd.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
iam with you
theres a reason hes the longest tenured active coach cus all the other owners firgured change is needed. get rid of fisher its been a good run but you suck now so go away. and take your over the hill has no future in the nfl qb with you.
Doesn't Vince have a pretty good record as a starter? I know he didn't win any games last year, but it's pretty hard to win games when you don't play. Even Joe Montana didn't win any games last year.
by Texas Wahoo on Oct 5, 2009 9:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Oops
That wasn’t all supposed to be bold.
by Texas Wahoo on Oct 5, 2009 9:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Given Fisher's personality
I think the more he feels pressured to bench Collins, the more he’s going to dig in his heels and stick with Kerry. He doesn’t want anybody else telling him what to do. Wouldn’t you love to listen in on the conversations between Jeff and Bud?
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 9:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
After this coming Sunday.....
….the only one of said conversations I want to listen-in on is the one that starts, “Thank, Jeff, for all of your years as Head Coach, but we’ve decided to go in a different direction……..”
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad Leadership
All in every aspect of life, leader always have someone in their ear. The President: his cabinet and his White House advisors,: Kings advisors; Mafia bosses; the consigleri; the pastor at any Protestant Church; deacons, elders, trustees, etc.; even when you go to court your attorney is called ‘counselor’. Pride before the fall, Jeff Fisher, Pride before the fall.
MrDeeboi33
i have a question for all of you
what if Kerry Collins torches Indy’s defense on sunday night, the defense steps up and plays solid..and the Titans actually beat the Colts. Yeah i know, it’s not going to happen right? Because there isn’t anything he’s shown thus far that he can do that right? I’m not giving up on Kerry Collins, very simply because he is our best chance to win, I understand why all of you want to put Vince in, but I don’t see him being a better option than Collins.
You're not wrong walter, you're just an asshole.
If we beat the Colts...
It’s going to be Chris Johnson, not Kerry, that does it.
Who doesn't want to be a promiscuous dope fiend?
by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 5, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
At 37 years old? And after his last ten games?
Then you have a learning disability.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not going to happen. Have you EVER, I mean EVER seen Kerry "torch" a defense as a Titan?
He hasn’t once thrown for over 300 yards, and only has one 3 td game.
And, the biggest point, is that you don’t know without a doubt that Kerry is better. A big decision needs to be made this offseason and the team needs to know what they have with Vince.
And after this coming Sunday...
…I think those big decisions this coming offseason include what direction the team is going to head in the COACHING department.
My tagline changes the moment Collins takes that first snap………….
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If the team starts winning consistently
and Collins plays well, I’m sure we’ll all shut up and quit calling for Fisher’s hide. Winning cures all ills.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You think 7-9 with a 37-year-old QB
would cure all ills?!
A fourth .500 or under season in the last six years? Not a single playoff victory since 2003 (it’ll be 2010 soon)?!
Horsecrap. This ain’t some new coach building his new team – this is a coach on his fourth or fifth rebuilding swing. Enough is enough after this Sunday – if Fisher shoves Collins out there and officially becomes Captain Ahab, he should be shown the door this year.
Running-up a bunch of meaningless wins with a 37-year-old QB taking all the snaps is a worthless bunch of stat padding for any coach or team. It will exhonerate him from NOTHING after a litany of bad decisions this year, a bull-headed inability to address the problems adequately, and a petty grudge against a #1 Draft pick that he can’t be big enough to get over.
I promise you, you’ve never seen the “let’s move on from Fisher” sentiment you’re going to see by the end of this year……….
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think 9-7 would be enough to
defuse a lot of the criticism. I’m not predicting that record, but a hypothetical question was asked. We’ll probably be 0-6 in two weeks, and then all hell will break loose. At 86, is Bud engaged enough to step in and make a change? I don’t know.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Bud forms his opinions
via Steve Underwood. He sent him here a couple of years ago to be his eyes and ears.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
So, do you think 0-6 might be enough
to get Underwood to encourage Adams to step in to some extent? Or, is anything known about what Underwood thinks?
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't have any idea
but I would think so. I would be surprised if Underwood and Bud aren’t talking about it now.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Please tell Steve
that Jeff Fisher has become Captain Ahab.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You are sadly mistaken.
As a young QB – whose strength is his speed – gets yet another year older sitting on the bench so an aging has-been can add some extra snaps to his career record – you think 9-7 deflects criticism?
I think you are SOOOO wrong on that one.
Missing the playoffs for the fourth time in six years, and no playoff wins since 2003, and all of those bad decisions this year, get deflected by winning nine games?
I don’t think so. Certainly, at the very least, not with this fan.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said
we’ll probably never know who is right because I don’t really believe that 9-7 will happen. We’ll probably be under .500, and then I’m not sure what happens. This is all very shocking. Four weeks ago, I thought Jeff was one of the best, most secure head coaches in the league. It’s amazing how quickly that has changed, and I think it could change quickly again.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
than blind as a bat...
you are. and “he’s our best chance to win”…stiiiillll waiting. you must have some really good connections, but please, take fishers n**s out your mouth. i like fish just as much as the next guy, but its not that hard to tell that he’s shadowing collins with his/and apparently yours best chance b/s.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
We have a chance.......
….Two chances: Slim and None, and your boy Slim just headed back to the locker room!
MrDeeboi33
I will make a deal with you
We will take Fisher’s n**s out of our mouth if you will take Young’s n**s out of your mouth.
Deal?
Official MCM Hater!
Retire #9!
guess I'm slow on the uptake
Took me a while to figure out what n**s were.
But here’s a question: what are Fisher and Young doing with all those nuns in the first place, and how do you fit one let alone more than one in your mouth?
Kerry had a really bad game...?
In the days of ‘0-4’ we shouldn’t PANIC! ‘Ohhh we need to put in Vince!’ I’m with you guys on atleast trying Vince Young, don’t get me wrong…but we shouldn’t lose all faith in Collins just yet. He could have had a GREAT game against the JETS if half of his passes were caught in the 4th quarter. We have cut it close in the last few weeks, except this last REALLY BAD GAME! My guess is Kerry wont TORCH the Colts, but he should turn it around and have a solid game with hopefully NO TURNOVERS! My guess is Jeff doesn’t want to put Young into a losing scenario like this…with a weak defense. When VY came in 3 years ago after the 0-5 start, we had a MUCH better Defense. IF we put him in now, we would score the same amount of points if not less. Sure, we should test Vince out, if he is no better than Collins, just put Collins back in d@m it..lol
well yes we wouldve had a great game against any team we play if the receivers catch every pass collins throws. im okay with 40 completions. great analysis. you know if we score more points than the other team i bet wed win too.
if the receivers catch a few more balls...
I’m not sure if you are directing your comment at me or someone else,..in any case…i didn’t say the receivers should have caught every pass…i mentioned that Collins would have had a great game had the receivers not dropped a ridiculous amount of passes late in the 4th quarter. We should be completing a few more passes. Don’t panic.
When VY came in....
after the 0-5 start, our defense was last in just about every category.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 7, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Eugene Monroe is starting at Left Tackle
Andre or Jason Smith aren’t. That means Eugene is a good left tackle. The fact that he got his QB killed in the first three games doesn’t matter. He played and the others didn’t. Simple logic.
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The only way
for vy to be back at the center is if KC gets injured. Fisher is not going to make any changes cuz he fuking arrogant a$$ hole. So, I’m parying KC to get injured, may be broken finger not big injury. I feel sorry for his old a$$. lol. I’m just frustrated hoping for any miracle to save our season.
Well hell..
I don’t know what eveyone’s so upset about. Did you listen to the press conference? Sounds like we’re doing everything right. Wait, what’s our record again?
by joshuaboone on Oct 5, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
holy crap!
as a fan I’m not happy about the recent turn into the abyss
however I will not sit here and call it quits on Fisher.
Glass houses people…..don’t be so ready to hurl your stones
the greater the struggle the greater the triumph
I hope they get it turned around that’s all I will say.
Or as
The caller on 1045 said today quote “I’m sick of fisher” “I call him Moses fisher…he can see the promised land but he ain’t gonna get you there”
by danomite on Oct 5, 2009 11:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Fisher has been a great coach.
However, he’s also been in his job—a very demanding job—for going on 15 years. At this point, I think it has taken its toll. The man looks tired. His whole team looks tired, and I think they’re getting it from him. “What’s different this year?” you ask. Fisher’s different. He just doesn’t quite have the fire he has had in years past. The collapse last season took it out of him, IMHO.
Fisher has been a great coach. But he’s really had to carry this team at times the past few years. I mean, look, it has been a while since he’s had Eddie George and Steve McNair out there to help him rally the troops. Like it or not Bullock and K. Mawae can’t seem to bring even close to that level of enthusiasm.
Really, I think Fisher’s been out there trying to basically do it all ever since Jim Schwartz left, and he’s just not getting it done. Because he can’t. No one can. And the effort has left him exhausted and out-of-sorts, and it’s having an effect on the way the team plays. And, of course, having an over-the-hill QB, a slow D-Line, and a sickly secondary isn’t helping at all.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I noticed the same thing
The whole team looks tired. The drive and energy don’t seem to be there. Bulluck talks about it as attitude, but I think it’s all part of the same thing. What’s up with that?
by JimR on Oct 6, 2009 7:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Fisher too.
Heck I love the guy, but 15 years is a long time to have the same coach and not win the Super Bowl. Sometimes you just need a change.
I don't know who the Titans would be with someone else in charge...
No more close games won by a field goal… Fisher is a good coach and I’m sure he wouldn’t sit on the sidelines very long. I don’t know who is out there that could replace him and do a better job, but I’m sure someone is. It would be interesting to see how the team would respond under new leadership.
On the other hand, Fisher (and everyone else on the team) has said they don’t know what the problem is. They don’t understand the problems with the secondary. I’m not sure changing KC is the magic bullet.
I'm sure changing KC isn't a magic bullet.
And the fact that these guys literally don’t have any answers is extremely telling.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
There's Nothing More Sad..
when you watch a person you love and respect be so blind to the obvious.
This hurts.
Bring Back Vince Young!
by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 6, 2009 8:00 AM CDT reply actions
hammer fisher all you want
for what they failed to do this offseason. but right now, there is absolutely nothing he can do for the next few weeks. our defense is in shambles and we are going to be 0-6. might as well just get used to the idea.
i think if you really stop and think about it, firing fisher is an absolutely insane idea. both coordinators need to go, for sure, but if we fire fisher, we will head into the CBA negotiations and possible turmoil involved there with an owner in failing health, mike rheinfeldt, and a roster with a lot of holes at key positions. stop and consider that losing fisher could also mean losing guys loyal to him like washburn and munchak. what about that sounds attractive?
fisher gambled that if he kept enough things the same from last year we could compete again, and that gamble went bust. but stop and remember why we got bounced in the first round of the playoffs last year: coaches don’t fumble or take cheap shots on CJ’s ankle. he put together a superbowl caliber team last year and certain players blew it when it mattered most.
we need new blood on offense and defense, that’s for sure. but starting back at zero by firing fisher is a horrible idea. if you want to fire fisher just because of him not throwing kerry under the bus and starting vince…well there’s probably no reasoning with you anyway. rest assured that’s a really stupid reason.
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by hal41605 on Oct 6, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Well if all of the assistants leave
we can just hire Lane Kiffin because he has assembled THE BEST COACHING STAFF IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
You've got a point, Hal, but there are a couple of falacies here.
1. You cannot seperate the off-season performance from the in-season performance. They are the same thing. And, bottom line, this team went to war without any reasonable plan in the Return Game. Which is a problem we have seen before around here. Only this time, it cost us at least one game and maybe two. There were other problems, most noteably in drinking their own Kool-Aid all off-season, but I’ll stick with the Special Teams for simplicity.
2. You assume there is no one else who could POSSIBLY shephard the team through a rebuilding process. Meanwhile, there are several first-time coaches doing just that, mostly in the AFC. And, oh by the way, there are also a handful of experienced, successful coaches sitting on the sidelines right now as I type this.
3. You assume that a) Fisher is still capable of leading this team, and more importantly b) if he WEREN’T capable, he’d know it. a) may be incorrect. b) certainly is.
Look, between the playoff loss, Steve McNair’s death, and just 15 years of long days and late nights, the guy has a right to be a litle burnt. That doesn’t mean that we have to let him take the ship down as he sinks.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
responses
1.
player personnel is not coaching. reinfeldt is just as responsible as fisher, if not moreso, for the personnel issues, and it’s also entirely possible that Bud put a quash on additional spending—we rarely take the salary cap to the max.
2.
firing fisher assumes things would improve. we could just as easily pick the wrong guy and be the rams or browns for the next 5 years. any of the big guns you speak of will be very expensive and want total control of everything, and will presumably bring in all new people at every coaching position. that could very easily go terribly wrong. also not a big fan of hosting reunion tours.
3.
who in the organization do you trust to pull the plug on fisher? who do you trust to make the right hire for the next head coach?
bud? hell no.
steve underwood? hell no.
reinfeldt? impossible to know since this is his first stop with out being hitched to mike holmgren’s wagon. at best he is a guy who has never hired a coach and was complicit in some of the personnel fiascos you reference in #1.
right now bad things are happening in droves. but jeff has rebuilt this team before and if he agrees to bring in some new blood with new ideas at the coordinator positions, there is no reason to fire jeff. he is everything you want in a head coach most of the time. even talking about this is beyond knee-jerk.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
Fair points.
But I still think that something is fundamentally different this year. This is the first time I’ve ever seen the team simply lack “heart.” It’s that’s intangible difference that makes me see this the way I see it.
Question: what has to happen for it to be “enough” for us to need a real change?
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
look i love fisher too, but you cant tell me that presser didnt annoy you. he seems frsutrated and tired. and i dont blame him, 15 years is hard to do straight in one of the most stressful jobs on the planet. the fact is both his actions, and his words seem different than they have. im not saying fire him, but i definitly say if things dont get turned around (not necessarily wins, but the general attitude of the staff and team) that you sit him down and have a talk about whether hes the right guy in the future.
no you wont necessarily find a BETTER coach, but youd find a DIFFERENT coach, and right now it seems that difference is what will make the new guy better in this situation.
Fisher's comments on the QB change
He was asked “last time you guys got off to a significant losing streak to start a season, you made a change at QB. What’s different this time?”
Fisher just misspoke in his answer of:
“One in particular is that we won 13 games with him last year. We hadn’t won a game with Vince (Young) at that point.”
He meant to say “Kerry” where he said “Vince”. He meant they had never won with Kerry in 2006, so they made the change, but they won with him in 2008 so they aren’t making the change in 2009. It’s really ridiculous either way, but that’s what he meant. It all goes back to this “loyalty” thing, which is either blindly insane or just a holding pattern until the change is made.
VY
Vince basically started the titans 1-0 last year, so Fisher is wrong. He was injured in the fourth quarter against the Jags, a game that the titans were winning up until that point.

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