Tennessee Titans Morning Links: It's Vince Young's Time Now Edition
If you listened to last night's podcast, you'll know that both Jimmy and I are completely of the mind that Vince should be the starter Sunday against the Colts, and it should be his job through the end of the year. But, we've both watched Coach Fisher run this team long enough to know that he isn't going to say peep about it until the change is made. So I found one small part of his statement interesting [emphasis added by AW]:
"Kerry’s our starter. Kerry gives us the best chance to win," Fisher said. "There was a little bit of life left. We got some points, and if we would’ve gotten the onside kick, it might have quieted down, and he might have put his starters back in. That was my decision today, to stay with him and try to find a way to win."
Also check out the podcast to hear more on the end of the Titans' season, what Jeff Fisher would have to do to get fired and the few bright spots from Sunday's game.
Peter King says Jeff Fisher told him last night they weren't changing QBs. In spite of his own stupid, non-1sensical reasoning (the Indy game is our season!?!?!!!? 1-4 and we'd still be screwed) PK and I agree that you have to start VY here. I say so because the Colts' D is still soft to my eye, and VY always excelled the big stage. Expect to hear a lot more about this decision over the course of the week.
Two days ago you could've made the argument that we were one of the best 0-3 teams in modern history. The Titans took a dump all over that reasoning Sunday with a completely uninspired performance.
Follow us through the jump for more punches to the gut...
More calls for VY to start. I get the feeling disappointment is about to turn into rage if Kerry trots back out there next Sunday.
McCormick breaks-down the terribleness that was that performance.
Reasons we lost yesterday: field position and injuries, but mostly it was just not being a very good football team.
Nick Harper left yesterday's game with a rib injury and didn't return, but a less noticed injury was Nate Washnington leaving the game after a hard hit. Washington had a bad headache, and will probably require further observation.
From the same link that started out this post we have the following quote, wherein LenDale White shows that he gets it:
"There’s enough talking around here. We can’t keep talking. Everybody can’t keep saying, ‘I’m going to do this, or what am I going to do.’ You’ve got to walk. There ain’t no talking all the time. We’ve got to stop the talking. If you ain’t ready to walk, after you talk, then don’t talk at all,’"
Big ups to Kenny Britt for a big game, and Jared Cook for his first catch in the NFL.
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"Kerry gives us the best chance to win"
Is there anything more depressing than that statement?
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what if it's true?
the only way to read kerry staying the starter from here on out is if fisher is 100% convinced that VY is a bust.
side speculation:
fisher realizes this season is dead in the water and doesn’t want to debut VY’s comeback tour with 2 of the best teams in the AFC. regardless of who we play at QB over the next 2 weeks, the passing defense, as it stands now, is going to lose those games for us on its own. if we start vince twice and get blown out twice, then where do we stand?
maybe he figures he might as well wait for the bye week and then install vince and start working toward the future against lesser opponents and no pressure to win immediately.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of these are definitely possible.
The other one, which is feeling more and more likely, is that Fish just doesn’t like Vince. We’ve heard rumors about that since his rookie year. Maybe there is some truth to it.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
forgot that one.
also possible:
fisher isn’t going to second guess himself as long as there is at least a mathematical chance of making the playoffs. there could be a significant amount of denial going on too.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys seem like they've been drinking their own kool-aid since before the offseason.
I’d say this whole thing is 3-parts denial, one part failure to realize that KC has been toast since late last season.
Which isn’t to say that KC doesn’t necessarily give the Titans the best chance to win. He probably does. VY was dreadful in both of his opportunities last year. But still… I think Fisher’s been living in his own Fantasy-land since the Steelers game last season.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
…the whole team and a lot of us have been in fantasy land since the Steelers game.
That’s not to say it wasn’t a good team last year, it was… But I think somehow they managed to get it into their heads that they’re the best NFL team since the merger and that as long as they walked onto the field they’d win.
by Antoniemey on Oct 5, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcnairs untimely death....
brought them closer together.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if it's true
Is exactly my point.
If it’s true, and Kerry Collins is the best quarterback that we have, then we are in MUCH bigger trouble than our 0-4 record hints at.
And if Fisher is not starting VY because he “doesn’t like him” then he’s a bigger damned idiot than I thought. This isn’t voting for prom king, it’s professional G-D football.
That said, I highly doubt that this is the case. But if it is, Fisher is not the coach that everyone thinks he is.
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not looking forward....
to the next game. If Garrard can put up 300+ passing yards, how many will Manning get? What’s the record for passing yards in one game? I have a feeling my “friends” here in Indy will have a field day after this one.
That said, I don’t know that I agree to put VY in now. The problems are on D. Maybe Fisher needs to take over the D calling for a while or something. And not sure I want VY going up against Indy or the Pats in his first return. Might as well wait until after they bye week. If we’re 0-6, the season’s over anyway. Then we’ll get a look at the “improved” VY and see if he can be our QB of the future before the next draft.
by Evanbio on Oct 5, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that VY isn't the answer
He isn’t going to play safety. That other boy from Texas is playing safety and is not doing the job. I don’t know if it’s the players or the coach but the defense is what has cost this team to be 0-4. Is it Cecil or Marcus Robertson that can’t make adjustments or is it the players are still looking at their probowl selections and thinking the are God’s gift and just have to show up? Of course the D line doesn’t apply any pressure on the quarterback and don’t have any sacks to show for the year. There’s a lot of blame to go around and almost all of it belongs on the defense. The offense had to many 3 and outs but to punt and let them score isn’t the offense’s fault. Especially when the get 30 and 40 yard returns.
by Titanfan on Oct 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like where your head is at
But the defense doesn’t play in a vacuum.
If the offense can’t drive down the field, we lose the field position battle and the defense has a much shortened field to work with. Also, if the offense can’t keep the ball for very long and goes 3-and-out multiple times, the defense is bound to get tired very quickly.
I’m not making excuses for the defense: their play is absolutely atrocious. But it’s time that we re-examine all sides of the football because, as I said, no one plays in a vacuum. True, the defense isn’t getting it done: but dammit, neither is the offense.
The Titans D was ranked 29 going into the game with Jacksonville against the pass. Any idea what team we were playing on Sunday ranked EVEN LOWER THAN THAT?
Chew on that for a while- the only team worse than the Titans at stopping the pass WAS THE TITAN’S OPPONENT on Sunday. And we couldn’t do a damned thing offensively just as we couldn’t do one defensively.
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Jacksonville had a worse pass D
then how come our receivers weren’t as wide open as Jacksonville’s were?
by Titanfan on Oct 5, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really sure if that's an argument
If you’re implying that I just made that up, you are welcome to go to your favorite stat site and check.
My point is that if our QB can’t get it done against a terrible pass defense, then he probably shares some of the blame for losing games too, wouldn’t you think?
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I doubted you
The stats didn’t show how bad we were. I didn’t see any of our receivers left wide open like Jacksonville had.
I do agree that he deserves some of the blame. I said there’s enough blame to go around. But the defense is the glaring problem and everyone calling for VY like that’s going to fix anything, seems far fetched to me.
by Titanfan on Oct 5, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is.....
this is EXACTLY, word-for-word, the same line I heard a couple of years ago before VY took the helm………………
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and....
no sacks to show for the year? what games are you watching, or should i say, not watching.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Brown leads the team with 2 sacks for the year
KVB has ZERO! Don’t take me literal. The sacks we have are insignificant.
by Titanfan on Oct 5, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
insignificant...
because of our secondary at the moment, we still bring enough pressure to the QB, some ppl read TOO much into stats. watch the games.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because you suck
Go Jags! Some people are like Slinky's...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by freek1969 on Oct 5, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
evanbio
that is what im thingkin.. wait till bye week and see if were 2-4 or 0-6 .. thru vy in so we can evaluate him before next draft..cause we are wasting time our superbowl window will only stay open for a while
by TattedTI on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That window closed in the first round of the playoffs last year, brother.
Last year was our year. And we blew it.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am for putting in VY....
although i just think its more of fish sticking to his word last year that KC would be the starter, that was the only way that he would sign that damn contract, which as i take a look is one year too long. we put so much faith into a QB that really, has not been that great all his career b/c if he was he wouldnt have been a nomad most of his career. i just hope that when VY’s time does come up he can step up, everybody shouldnt expect instant success, even a rusty peyton last year took a while to get back to speed.
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"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe montana
couldn’t win with this team
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but he wouldn’t be as big a part of why they’d be losing as Kerry now is.
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely true.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd as well.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
sorry, i’m a big joe montana fan.
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by Pinoy Titan on Oct 5, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry pinoy
but it really is that bad
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peter King, nice work
“That, plus the fact Collins has been more productive (51 more passing yards per game) and just as accurate as he was a year ago.”
Watching a game or even glancing at a stat line would set PK straight there. YPA is down, completion percentage is down, INT % up, and the timeliness of the positive/negative plays has been pretty brutal. KC’s just throwing the ball 15 times more per game.
by WC22 on Oct 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry to butt in, but as a witness to the game
If Kerry Collins was more productive than last year, you would be 4-0. When the Jaguars took Chris Johnson away, Kerry Collins couldn’t win the game for you. He was a liability.
Not trying to be mean or rubbing it in, God knows I hate that. But to set PK and Jeff Fisher straight, you guys need a new option at QB.
Again, sorry to butt in.
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by Tkopa on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I was in NYC this weekend for a family thing, and i was in the Rockefeller center and Peter King was sitting in the starbucks there talking with some guy, I introduced myself told him WE REALLY LOVED him at MUSIC CITY MIRACLES.COM and he should check us out.hahahaha….he stared back…and was like “neat….ok..”…also he looks like 175 years old off camera.
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by titansfan615 on Oct 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like that you are getting the word out
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by Jimmy on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with Hal & Evan
If VY is going in at all, it should be after the bye. Any QB would be rusty after going a year without starting or much playing time, so why throw him back in starting with two of the toughest remaining games. Indy and NE are now longshots no matter who is the QB.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 9:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
if finnegan, harper, and fuller
are all out, we have NO CHANCE against those teams. ZERO. we are looking at having 2 rookies and a guy we cut a month ago as our corners. might as well start the process of forgetting those games now.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how do we match up with the 49ers?
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does their qb have a working arm?
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw 2 TDs against the Rams
AND no picks!
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on what....
…you mean by “working…..”
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it attached at the shoulder?
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty, only about 50% of what I want to see has to do with winning
just as important is that we need to see how he reacts when things are tough. You don’t coddle a 4 year vet like a rookie.
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Fisher assures him that the team is his, I don't think it's a problem.
Remember that Vince came in against the Chargers in a blowout, and then took over against the Cowboys and the Colts. All three of those games were losses before the team started winning football games.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not looking good at all no matter who plays at QB. I can't beleive how
horrible the defense looks, is it all Cecil’s fault or what happened? It is essentially the same personnel as last year with one glaring exception. So why the utter domination by the opponents this season? I don’t get it. No spark, no excitement, just disappointment week after week.
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by Joy kat on Oct 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Combinations
AH + Schwartz gone, VB still not his old self and maybe never will be, NH not been playing well (although he had some pass defenses finally in that horrible horrible game), offense not sustaining drives to keep them off field, and now injuries to other starters to add icing on the cake. Add it all up and it = defense and season go bye bye.
I didn’t see it coming, though. I’m stunned that the defense has gotten as bad as it has. Everybody had secondary depth concerns coming into this season, but I don’t think anyone expected this mess.
by numbertenox on Oct 5, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the logic behind the statements about maybe not starting VY against two top teams in the AFC
But I think it’s flawed. We have to find out what we have with him. He is a 4th year player. What if he plays well in the early part of the schedule? Do we really know what we have if he is able to go, say, 6-4 against an early schedule? However, even if we lost both the Indy and NE game with Vince, if he happens to play well or play decently and keep his poise and keep us in the game and not turn the ball over, didn’t we learn infinitely more about him in those losses than we would with him beating up on the easy part of the schedule?
He is a 4th year player. They shouldn’t protect him from good teams. If he is the starter, he is the starter.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
early? My bad. I meant easy
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is the starter, he is the starter.
agreed.
Which probably means he ain’t the starter. Bye-bye, VY. As it stands, looks like we got KC for the duration.
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what T-Rac and some others are missing...................
Jeff Fisher will simply not start Vince Young of his own accord. It’s never going to happen, ever.
We can debate whether Jeff Fisher’s reasoning is flawed, or why there’s no reason left to leave Vince on the bench for a 37-year-old QB who’s performing poorly — but it’s not going to make Jeff Fisher waver an inch from his “I’m 100%, unconditionally, totally behind Kerry Collins, no matter what, no matter what, no matter WHAT!” stance.
The call is going to have to come from upstairs, just like with McNair, just like with Vince the first time around. That is the ONLY way Vince Young takes another snap as a Titan, unless Collins goes down injured.
Rest assured that if it’s up to Fisher and this team is 0-15 and down 35-0 at the half of game 16, Jeff Fisher will trot out Kerry Collins to take every remaining snap of the last game of the season. That’s just the way it’s going to be.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another one...
of my biggest concerns.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Adams will.....
Let Jeff Fisher go before he lets VY go! Jeff Fishers problem is he’s not creative enough to use VY properly! Theres no question if VY can play or not and if he can make big plays because he’s already proven he can! Jeff Fisher just gotta let his go out their and be VY just like all the other team that have SUCCESSFUL young QBs! They don’t try to tell their 1st round pick QBs how to play they let them go out there and do what they do and that is why their QBs were succeful! Until Jeff Fisher swallows his pride and realizes that VY will not be successful! And if Jeff Fisher blows this season just because he has something against VY then his job in Tennessee is done! And I believe if VY was to get released and Jeff Fisher VY will land with a team before Fisher will! I’m sure theres some young head coach thats actually creative enough to use VY as their QB is licking their chops waiting on VY to hit the free agent list! And when VY goes to another team and has a successful career then everyone will know that he wasn’t the problem, and that he never had the weapons around him to be successful until now and he wasn’t even given the chance to prove himself!
by datboybevans on Oct 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think Vince has a better chance to
succeed in the long run if you don’t throw him back in to start against Indy and NE. He hasn’t really played for over a year. It’s going to take him a few games to get back up to speed – if he can do it at all. This would be true of any QB who has been on the bench for over a year.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hogwash!
Vince’s win against Indianapolis was the game that catapulted him.
We need to throw him in the deep end to find out if he can swim. Just starting him in a meaningless game against the Chiefs or Rams or some other lowly team after the team is 0-6 is NOT – absolutely NOT – going to give us any real sense of his future performance as a starter. I do NOT want Vince being given the starting job for years to come based SOLELY on how he performs after we’re eliminated from contention completely, and when the rest of our schedule is softer.
You may have eliminated the possibility that there’s even a hint of a chance Vince perfoms well against either team, but the only way we see that is with him behind center.
The “year off” nonsense is the single worst excuse for starting Collins (who had more than a year off) I have heard yet. There’s a preseason, and half of the snaps in every practice to keep Vince in tune. Try to find a less lame excuse to justify Collins.
Man, if this team is 1-5, we’re still going to hear folks tell us why KC need to start the next game………………………………………………
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WIN
I know we’ve had our differences Jade, but I COMPLETELY agree with this. HE IS A 4TH YEAR PLAYER!!! IF HE CANT STEP IN AGAINST INDY AND PLAY WELL AND HE LETS THAT RUIN HIS CONFIDENCE AND HE SUCKS THE REST OF THE YEAR THEN I DONT WANT HIM AROUND!!!
I’m not saying he has to beat Indy and NE. But if he does his job, keeps the offense rolling, doesn’t turn the ball over (maybe once is forgivable), Shows some continuity with our Receivers and has confidence, then we learned INFINITELY more than we do if he plays decently against sucky teams and we find a way to win.
The no pressure argument holds no water. He is the QB. If he can’t handle pressure, whether on the football field from the defense, or on the field from feeling the team has to score right then to stay in the game, or off the field from feeling bad for losing his first game back, then we learned what I want to know. He can’t handle the pressure of being a NFL QB. These two games will give the team and us as fans a much better composite picture of what Vince can handle.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree also
Either he is or he is not an NFL QB. It should not matter who the oppent is if he can not prove his worth than we know we better start looking elsewhere, however if he looks shap and gives us a chance or dare I say wins the game then we all go away thinking he is a hero.
by bullrider73 on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another big thing about VY is........
Last year he only played like one game so no one even knows if he would have had a good year or not! I don’t blame him for being upset with the crowd booing him the ones booing weren’t real fans anyway! Too bad VY didn’t think about that atm! Now he in this stupid situation!
by datboybevans on Oct 5, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins is not the problem
I think with VY at QB this team just becomes more weaker
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Are you talking about your Madden 2010 games? You must be……
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins isn't the no.1 problem
but he’s a biggie now. If we had other options in the secondary I’d be all for them getting a shot, but we don’t. We do, however, have a possible option at QB who could give our D a little more of a break in a best case scenario.
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had last year's D,
we’d be at least 3-1 right now with Collins playing exactly the way he has been playing. That ought to say something.
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
+1
And a rash assumption. He’s making a lot more mistakes this year – a LOT.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is
We DO have last year’s D, minus 1 guy and a coordinator.
What gives?
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
inexperienced coordinator
Harper, KVB, and Kearse look 10 years older than last year
now the already crappy secondary is decimated by injury
our scheme no longer fits our personnel
take your pick
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
But that’s the thing- why on earth do Kearse and KVB look so much worse this year?
Why is our secondary, what contained 3 pro bowlers, so terrible now?
WHY IS NICK HARPER STILL PLAYING IN THE NFL?
Etc. It just doesn’t seem like there is any reason that all of the above should be true.
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not the problem?
Keep makin’ excuses.
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is not THE problem
Get your head out of your ass.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you say life without knowledge is death in disquise well guess your as good as dead! LOL
Anyone see when Jim Zorn was talking about Jason Campbells descision making and he said sometimes you just have to tuck it and run? Well that what VY bring to the Titans the ability to run in case the pocket breaks down or no one gets opens! He also makes it where a team can’t just play a prevent defense when the Titans are running a 2min drill something KC can’t do! Know it takes knowledge to notice that!
by datboybevans on Oct 5, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the silver lining in all of this is that I should get a monster start out of Peyton Manning in my fantasy league next week.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I'm calling it:
2-14. That’s my new, revised prediction for the Titans’ record this season.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who are we beating?
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
St. Louis and Miami.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will not
beat Miami. Sorry,we just won’t.
by jamesvictoria on Oct 5, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right.
Maybe 3-13. Possible wins, Seattle, San Fran, Buffalo, and St. Louis.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Fran is actually a good team, and Buffalo is under-appreciated.
They’ll both smoke the Titans easily. St. Louis looks to be about the same level of disaster as TN. And I’m gonna say that Miami never recovers from losing Chad Pennington.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"St. Louis looks to be about the same level of disaster as TN."
If you had said that on Saturday I would have called you stoopid.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know.
Amazing.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way, I see us going 10 and 6 if we get this turned around fast
I am not giving up. Yesterday’s game was not close, the other 3 were though. The season can be salvaged if things get straight real quick like. I am the eternal optomist.
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by Joy kat on Oct 5, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way, DannoE.
If they finish that low, at least we should have a great shot at one of the hot QB’s coming out in the draft next year, and by hot, I mean one that can ACTUALLY pass without a ton of interceptions or throwaways, with good accuracy, and more than 7-10 yards per pass.
Anybody noticed Jimmy Claussen’s numbers of late? The kid is looking like Drew Brees out there for the Irish. Is there any chance this kid might come out next year?
by Titans_Girl on Oct 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Clausen is a bum.
I hope and pray that they don’t draft this bozo. Especially with guys like McCoy, Snead, and Bradford available.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great analysis
I hope and pray Jeff Fisher feels the same way you do, as I wouldn’t want the Colts facing Clausen twice a year.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Clausen a bum?
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by Jimmy on Oct 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a loser.
3-9 his first year. 7-6 last year. 4-1 this year. 14-16 for his career.
He has ZERO quality wins. Blame it on Charlie Weis, but he made it work with Brady Quinn and that hasn’t exactly worked out well for him in the NFL. And, the talent is there. Weis has consistently recruited top 25 classes.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake Locker.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so over qbs
who have highlight reels full of running plays
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me add to this.
His wins last year were against Stanford (5-7), Washington (0-12), Navy, (8-5), San Diego State (2-10), and Michigan (3-9).
Everyone is suddenly on the bandwagon with this kid now, and he has done absolutely nothing. The combined record of his opponents this year is below .500 again.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Clausen's fault
That Michigan had its worst team in 60 years, and Washington gave the worst coach in D-1 history a final year to completely fail.
What the hell has Snead done to be considered a first round player? He’s looked awesome the last 2 weeks.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much. I probably shouldn't have included his name.
But, Bradford and McCoy are on a completely different level than Clausen.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because they win games, right?
Bradford is hurt right now, and look at what happened to Leinart when he came back to school after winning the Heisman. Bradford will have to put up the same numbers when he gets back to get put back up there. He certainly could, but for now, he’s an unknown for 2009.
And McCoy hasn’t looked bad this year, but nothing eye popping against just as bad of a schedule as Clausen. TD/INT ratio of 9/5, 7.9 YPA, ranked 26th in efficiency.
Just because Bradford and McCoy were better than Clausen last year (and they clearly were) doesn’t mean Clausen couldn’t have passed them this season.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's let the rest of the season judge.
But, wins over Washington, Nevada, Mich State, and Purdue shouldn’t vault Clausen into that discussion.
Colt set the NCAA record for completion percentage last year. 70.27%. Only two other times in NCAA history has someone hit 68%, and only eight have completed over 65%. I don’t care who you’re playing, that’s impressive, and, IMO, why he is the best quarterback in the draft.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'll put you in the Draft Tebow camp then
Since team wins is all that makes a successful QB in the NFL. Glad that’s cleared up.
Clausen didn’t start in 3 of those game his freshman year, and didn’t play at all in 2 of those, so you’re wrong there.
Here is the 2007 Notre Dame Roster. 3/4 of the starters were Freshman and Sophomores. The center couldn’t snap out of the shotgun to save his life, so Clausen got destroyed time after time. The talent is there now, and ND is 4-1, with a bye week before Southern Cal.
Also, what does his record as a Freshman have to do with how he’s playing now? Obviously a player in college never gets better as he grows up. He’s leading the country in Passing Efficiency. He’s averaging almost 11 Yards / Attempt. And he’s had to do it, as his defense has given up 30+ points 3 times already this year. ND is 4-1 because of Jimmy Clausen. They’d be 1-4 without him.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like there's any way you could know how things would play out without Jimmy Clausen.
He’s played a dog shit schedule.
And, you want to talk about importance to a team. Look at OU without Sam Bradford. Since you have such a hard on for passing efficiency against bad teams, you should also note that he led the NCAA in QB rating last year.
THeLet’s revisit this discussion in one week after he’s played a real team. He posted a whopping 18.4 rating last year against USC.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's been coached by Charlie Weiss!!!!
HE’LL HAVE A TACTICAL ADVANTAGE ON EVERY PLAY
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said anything about Bradford
It’s about your obvious hatred for everything Notre Dame. Which is fine, and normal. Bradford is clearly very important to OU, just as much as Clausen is to ND.
Having actually watched every ND game this year, I know, for a fact, Notre Dame would be 1-4 without Clausen.
Notre Dame has played 3 Big 10 teams and a Pac 10 team this season. I bet you can count on 1 hand the number of teams that have played 4 BCS conference teams. In fact, if you combine the schedules of Texas, Oklahoma, and Mississippi, you’ll get to 4. Talk about dog shit schedules.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does BCS conference have to do with anything?
Sure, Washington is in a BCS conference. They also won 0 games last year.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they beat USC 2 weeks ago
This ain’t 2008 any more.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. We're going to continue to go in circles.
Let’s just wait for this weekend.
And, BTW, I don’t hate Notre Dame. I actually really liked them as a kid. I just think Clausen has been a colossal disappointment given the hype that surrounded him.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
You’re right, we’ll wait until after USC, but it’s in 2 weeks. He struggled mightily against them last year, and I’m hoping we don’t see a repeat performance of that this season.
Clausen did have huge hype coming in, but the problem the last 2 years wasn’t him. OL was just plain bad the last 2 years, and the defense isn’t helping him much this season.
Through 5 weeks, he has to be a top 3 Heisman candidate. That’s pretty good, considering the last 2 seasons.
by mgrex03 on Oct 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the following are big 12 qbs currently employed by the nfl:
vince young
chris simms
sage rosenfels
seneca wallace
stephen mcgee
josh freeman
can we go with a conference where the qbs actually play in real offenses against real defenses? please?
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Simms!
If he was still here, we’d have a better team!
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We let the wrong Texas quarterback go!
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said so at the time!
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Colt is different.
Mainly because of how smart he is. It’s like having another coordinator on the field.
But, I see your point.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im just really leery of the spread kids, regardless of conference
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont know enough about mccoy to judge him personally though
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
At the same time, though, you don’t want to pass on big time talent just because of the conference he’s from. Furthermore, I think all these guys are running the spread, at least to some extent. I haven’t seen enough of Locker to really know.
However, just because Snead takes most of his snaps from under center doesn’t mean he isn’t running the spread. And, he’s the only guy you can really make the argument for (other than Clausen) of running a pro style offense. If I have a choice between Snead and McCoy, I’m taking Colt. He already beat him out once.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
im not in any way sold on snead yet either. hasn’t shown nearly enough yet. clausen worries me too, so i’m not sure who i would take. guess it’s about time to start researching those draft picks
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snead sucks.
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by Jimmy on Oct 5, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can i get an answer of....
which of those won national championships?
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vince Young
You know who else?
Tee Martin
Ken Dorsey
JaMarcus Russell
Chris Leak
Chris Weinke
Craig Krenzel
Josh Heupel
All of which used their National Championships to catapult to a highly successful career in the National Football League. So I see your point.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Tee Martin available?!!!111!!!
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by DannoE on Oct 6, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. He is coaching high school ball.
Very lucrative.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 6, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about
Charlie Ward and Tommie Frazier??
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by Jimmy on Oct 6, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right Tuna!
How could I forget the stellar NFL careers of those two National Champion quarterbacks?
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by gramsey712 on Oct 6, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been watching college football too much, so none of these guys really excite me.
And my faith that Fisher and company can actually develop a QB is right up there with my faith in their ability to develop a WR.
Besides which, the question is this: which do you think Fisher will try to fix first, the Offense or the Defense?
I think we all already know the answer to that, and that’s why I fully expect to see a monsterous DT taken in the 1st next year.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think our pick
will be too high to use on a DT. defense is going to need 2 new ends as well so that would probably be more likely, depending on how high our pick is. should be several qbs out there though too.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My personal thoughts
Locker reminds me of Jay Cutler. To carry a losing program like he has is impressive. Also, while he does run a lot, so did Cutler in college, and Locker is an accurate passer. Those passes at the end of the Washington game were right on target, his receivers just dropped them. Personally, I like Locker A LOT.
McCoy – Too small, runs the spread, and plays with elite talent. However, except for the last one, the same was said of Drew Brees, and McCoy is accurate as shit. I would be happy with McCoy, though I would prefer Locker.
Clausen – FRAUD. BIG TIME FRAUD. Brady Quin 2.0. Sorry if comebacks against Washington and Purdue don’t impress me.
Snead – I honestly haven’t even seen him play. Ole Miss games usually don’t make my docket of games to watch.
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My personal thoughts on College QBs
Locker reminds me of Jay Cutler. To carry a losing program like he has is impressive. Also, while he does run a lot, so did Cutler in college, and Locker is an accurate passer. Those passes at the end of the Washington game were right on target, his receivers just dropped them. Personally, I like Locker A LOT.
McCoy – Too small, runs the spread, and plays with elite talent. However, except for the last one, the same was said of Drew Brees, and McCoy is accurate as shit. I would be happy with McCoy, though I would prefer Locker.
Clausen – FRAUD. BIG TIME FRAUD. Brady Quin 2.0. Sorry if comebacks against Washington and Purdue don’t impress me.
Snead – I honestly haven’t even seen him play. Ole Miss games usually don’t make my docket of games to watch.
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Dumbass internet posted it twice, no idea why.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also meant Notre Dame game for Locker
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the opposite...
Would prefer McCoy, who looks to be the real deal………..wouldn’t be upset with Locker.
That’s IF Vince isn’t the “man,” and IF we can ever get Fisher to accept drafting a premeire rookie QB. Two VERY big IFs.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 5, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for Snead
He threw 3 picks against VANDERBILT.
’Nuff said.
by TNTitans on Oct 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really dont understand
the reasoning behind bringing in VY after the bye to help him avoid NE and indy. if, as you all say, theyre sure loses, and vince will be rusty and need a few games to warm up: wouldnt you want him to get the rust off against good teams (whos defences arent really excelling right now btw), and be in midseason form against the weaker part of the schedule? if you leave in kc for these two games thats 2 losses, and then VY get the rust off against sf, etc, thats an extra few losses. vince isnt as soft as the media makes him sound (i doubt), he wont go missing if we lose to two of the best teams in the league. hes playing, hell be happy and just want to win.
by mattd97 on Oct 5, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Part of it is that
I don’t think we have good odds of beating Indy or NE with either Collins or Young. In fact, for those two games, Fisher may be right. The odds are slightly better with Collins. Young is not going to come on cold and win those games. Why start him now? What’s the rush?
by JimR on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Because the more data you have on him next offseason the better.
Throw him to the wolves against impossible odds and see how he reacts.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so that he wont be coming in cold against the easieer games on the sched. personally i like seeing the team win
by mattd97 on Oct 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as much as ppl have....
hated on vince in the past, now all of a sudden they dont want to put him in in tough games??? i would think all his haters would be all for it, b/c im sure they would like to see him drown. although i dont think that it will be the case, whoever stated it earlier (sorry dont remember) he is not as soft as everybody has branded him. i dont care what the circumstances are, put him in now, we need a spark. or at least a QB that has the option to run if the play breaks down, AT LEAST.
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"now all of a sudden they dont want to put him in in tough games???"
You won’t find one person on here who contends that VY should start because he’s won the job. He should start because Kerry has lost it. There’s a MASSIVE difference there.
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to have something....
to lose it. and KC really had nothing here, so he can throw the ball A LITTLE bit more accurate and not throw INT’s last year, the only thing he’s lost is his low INT number.
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by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When has a QB taken over mid season when the starter didn't "lose it"?
And, that’s a serious question. I don’t think it was ever possible for Vince to “win it.” Mainly because Fish is so stubborn.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on that so far
I just hate to see it go down like that. It’s just a gut thing, but that’s how it goes with QBs.
In a dream world I’d prefer to see a transition like what happened with Tully and Fowler last year: Fowler was doing what he’d always done, but it became clear to the staff that Tully had passed him. I know it can’t happen with the Qb position because it’s a leadership spot.
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by August West on Oct 5, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, how 'bout them Saints?
They actually made M. Sanchez look like a rookie yesterday and then put the game away late with a power TD at the end of the game.
The Saints suddenly look TOUGH. Can’t wait to see them play the Giants. Damn G-Men are boring as anything to watch.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We should have hired Gregg Williams
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by Jimmy on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
That was a GREAT game. The Saints scored on defense TWICE!
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morbid stat of the day
through 4 games, the titans are surrendering a passer rating of 96.9. the worst all time for a season is the lions last year with a 110. i did some screwing around with the calculations and once peyton and brady have their way with us the next 2 weeks we could be very near that total through 6 games.
half of the remaining games are against teams that currently sit with top ten passing offenses:
indy (#1) twice
sd (#2)
az (#4)
ne (#5)
hou (#9)
if there is any reason i am slow to worry about who is playing quarterback, it’s because we are getting ready to set records with this awful secondary/pass rush. if they think vince still has something left to prove then there is no reason no to start him. we are going to lose regardless though.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So, who are we taking with the number 1 pick?
You can repost your fanpost now, rbarnes.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 5, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
#2 or #3 pick.
I think St. Louis and Cleveland are both still worse.
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by DannoE on Oct 5, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stategy
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put Vince young in the “WILDCAT OFFENSIVE” and rotate Kerry Collins. But you know it’s going to lead to offensive co-ordinator Mike H. getting fired again under Fischer. Same old song, Fischer keeps job, offensive co-ordinator gets fired.
by cowboy101 on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike H. should get fired now.
48 passes. 18 runs. If that doesn’t deserve him losing his job, I don’t know what does.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im definitely of the mind that dinger needs to go
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've come to that conclusion as well
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it
But a lot of this falls on Fisher. Poor preparation, poor coaching, maybe it’s time he goes at the end of the year.
by crazylegs28 on Oct 5, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's unbelieveable.
Chris Johnson is averaging 6.3 YPC, and he’s only carried the ball 69 times. We should be running the ball at least 30 times a game. Meanwhile, Lendale, who’s looked great thusfar, only has 23 touches. I just don’t get it.
But, hell, why run the ball with two solid NFL running backs, when you can throw the ball 40 times a game, lose the time of possession battle, turn the ball over more, AND average less YPA (5.97)?
Seriously, though, if you have a running back who’s averaging 6.3 YPC, and a quarterback who’s averaging less when he throws and is turning the ball over, why would you ever pass the ball?
Give anyone on this site the playbook and they’ll do a better job with the play calling than Dinger. I guarantee it. It’s simple. CJ off tackle. CJ counter. Lendale up the guy. Rinse, and repeat. And repeat. And repeat.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me the Madden playbook and I'll do better
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 5, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't run it 30 times when youre down by 30 in 3rd
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by Pride of the Southland on Oct 5, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
play calling was awful from the start though
no lendale, too much passing, running cj in predictable spots, etc.
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not too much.
It’s that KC can’t make the passes.Guys wide open and he can’t hit them even when he has the time to make an accurate throw.
Too high or to far in front or behind.
He looks like he’s afraid to put the ball out there and let the receivers do their job.
by jamesvictoria on Oct 5, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what you said is true
but it’s still way too much
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The strange thing is though
from what games I have seen, Kerry has looked fairly confident in being able to put the ball in tight spots. Such as the Gage TD last week.
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by Pride of the Southland on Oct 5, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt get the game - in bengals territory
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by Pride of the Southland on Oct 5, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about seeing what his O....
would look like with vince at the helm.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 5, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone is looking to shut down CJ.
We have to throw the ball.Our offence is way to predictable.We’re getting killed by play action but we never use it. Why? Get Lendale and CJ out there at the same time,mix it up.Lendale in the backfield CJ line up at wideout.How many times are we going to watch CJ get stuffed and then KC misses the throw on 3rd down?
I sit here with my son and predict whats going to happen and it’s not too often that there are any surprises.
by jamesvictoria on Oct 5, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But, they haven't.
He’s averaging 6.3 YPC. And, I know that’s skewed because of the big runs. That’s part of the point though. Keep running him until lightning strikes.
by SuperHorn on Oct 5, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and cj is much more likely to break one
if the defense is tired from tackling from lendale
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, when the titans are in the game they are just throwing cj out there and hoping he strikes gold rather than you know… actually having a game plan. its just draw after draw to cj. its awful.
i love the idea of having split backs, or having cj out wide. we have playmakers. britts a playmaker, cooks (supposedly) a playmaker, cjs a playmaker, washingtons a playmaker. then you have guys like scaife and gage and lendale to depend on. the position guys are enough to field a good offence.
by mattd97 on Oct 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run a wishbone lendale and cj on both sides
hell, throw VY out there sometime too.
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Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!
by Pride of the Southland on Oct 5, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never thought I'd say this
But I am sick of Jeff Fisher. Just seeing his face on the TV pisses me off.
by Titan9 on Oct 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fisher is right
this isn’t a 0-4 team. it’s an 0-6 team.
free money in vegas the next 2 weeks folks, lay the points and take the over!
/pounding head on desk in the middle of lecture
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by hal41605 on Oct 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Start Vince Young. But also start Kenny Britt.
He is hands down our best receiver. He deserves to start.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 5, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
vy as starter
the worse thing that could happen is he’s a bust we loose more games and we get in the tebo race
by titanbomb on Oct 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was who said
it last night… Peter King… Couldn’t remember
by Big Bad Bulluck on Oct 5, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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