Bud Adams Calls for Vince Young to Start
As August mentioned in the links this morning, Bud Adams called for Vince Young to start this week against Jacksonville. It appears that the Tennessean got this from the same interview they posted with Bud on the Monday following the Boston Massacre, but they chose to sit on it until now. The funny thing is that Jeff Fisher, as recently as yesterday, still won't say who the starter is going to be.
There has been a lot of speculation here on how safe Fisher is. It will be interesting to watch how this plays out. I think it is clear that Fisher still wants to go with Kerry Collins. He pointed out in his spin session yesterday that Collins had "an especially good week last week." So now it comes down to doing what he wants to do or doing what the owner wants him to do.
The safer play for Fisher is to go with VY. For the obvious reason that that is what Bud wants him to do, but also because if they lose 6 more games in a row he can tell Bud that he lost those games with Bud's boy. It would make it a little bit tougher for Bud to blame the losses on Fisher.
I don't think it makes a huge difference either way. Collins has been bad, but quarterback play alone hasn't lost any games. Vince could provide a spark, but in my opinion that would be limited to a game or two. I think Fisher needs a 5-5 finish to save his job, and it doesn't look like either guy can give him that. Time will tell.
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I wonder if they ever considered
that the reason why Collins and Young always look good in practice is because they practice against the Titans Secondary.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
I have been thinking that for weeks
Every time Fisher says Kerry has looked extrememely good in practice that pops into my head look at what brady did in an actual game against them.
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by Garcia34 on Oct 27, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When KC fumbled for no reason whatsoever.
I’d have to say that QB play lost us that one. Who didn’t think we’d get in field goal range and at least tie the game? But otherwise I agree.
by Titan9 on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And another thing.
IF (a big if) Vince comes out and blows the doors off that’s going to make Jeffrey look even worse.
by Titan9 on Oct 27, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's true but the likelihood of that is slim to none
if for no other reason than the non-QB related problems will be the same with or without Vince.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, I did say it was big if.
But it is against the Jags and we’re pretty familiar with them so anything is possible. Vince may add a wrinkle they weren’t prepared to deal with.
I’m grasping but bear with me.
by Titan9 on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were any other team I might actually agree on the wrinkle
But the Jags have seen plenty of Vince Young.
The plus side is the Jags aren’t very good, so we have a shot to win.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a surprise to anyone?
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by gramsey712 on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Tennessean
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Touche...
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by gramsey712 on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
savior?
I got news for you Uncle Bud…..it’s going to take alot more than a quaterback change to get this team going in the right direction. The talent is already there…what they lack is heart. You can’t just show up on Sunday and go through the motions. You’ve got to give it your ALL!!!!
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Such outstanding football analysis
It’s all about heart. Talent and execution mean nothing without heart. And chemistry. and a winning mentality. and the will to win. and the desire to compete.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Ok, we get it. So how do we get the team to get it? Wait a minute….that Jeff’s job!! And if he doesn’t figure it out soon…..well, I don’t even want to think about it.
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not entirely...
Losing can be contagious, probably more contagious than winning, because doubt can be powerful. And after the embarrassment they all suffered, you know self-esteem and morale is low. So Jeff can really coach up the players through the week get them feeling good about themselves, actually get them to have a good practice, but as soon as those mistakes start happening during the game, like the dropped passes, or fumbles, or big plays on the secondary, all that doubt starts creeping up on the players, thinking oh hell, here we go again. It does us as fans, so you know it has to be worse on them.
by J3G77 on Oct 27, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about next year?
I mentioned it to a friend of mine, but perhaps the reason Fish doesn’t want to bench Collins is because it limits the options for next year.
Collins made it clear in the offseason that if he didn’t start he was going to retire. With that kind of pride, do you think that if we bench him this year he would be willing to start next year while we groom a rookie QB?
I think if Collins is benched this year he will retire in the offseason. That leaves us stuck with VY and whatever FA/Rookie QB we get.
Now add the fact that VY’s contract is unacceptable next year. So if VY doesn’t rework is contract he’s gonna get cut. That leaves us going into camp with no QBs that know the system.
by theologic on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
future?
Could there be another Mark Sanchez waiting in the wings? A young guy full of pee & vinegar who could come in and take over right away? Cause if this crap continues, we’re going to get top draft pick.
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh
Sanchez has 6 TD’s and 10 INTs with a rating of 61.5 and is in danger of losing his starting job to KELLEN CLEMONS. Also, he was caught eating a hotdog on the sidelines last week against Oakland.
If there is another Mark Sanchez waiting in the wings, we don’t want him.
by TNTitans on Oct 27, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already have him
His name is Vince Young.
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by Jimmy on Oct 27, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice.
but he never ate a hot dog on the sidelines. maybe bbq, but not hot dog. lol. anybody can say what they want, bud has laid down the hammer. time for VY is now. im hopin he can make the best of the opportunity.
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by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Future?
THA FUTUA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Joke, since everyone else on here seemed to loose their mind the other day I thought maybe today could be my day.
by bullrider73 on Oct 27, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eating
I don’t care if he has a buffet on the sidelines, he’s got his team winning!!
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you watch any of those games
Or perchance anything that has anything remotely to do with football?
Sanchez has, in addition to his 10 picks (that’s tied for second-most in the league behind Jake “I belong in the CFL” Delhomme) has 7 (SEVEN!!!!) fumbles and a QB rating that is actually LOWER than our brain-trust Kerry Collins.
Again, if there is Mark Sanchez number 2, we don’t want him.
by TNTitans on Oct 27, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think our fellow fan...
must have check out of football altogether after the Titans went 0-3. That’s why he missed the Sanchez fall from grace. He only remembers the Sanchez that we played, forgetting how good we tend to make rookies and backup QBs.
by TNTitan89 on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps....
…short-sidedness is becoming a disease.
As I remember it, there was another lousy rookie QB who set an NFL interceptions record in his first year, and was pretty miserable.
His name was/is Peyton Manning.
Declaring Sanchez as having “fallen from grace” is at best premature, at worst ludicrous. He’s starting as a ROOKIE, and just learning the ropes.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good logic....
i do think sanchez can turn it around, everybody hits a wall, its how high it is for the player to climb over that is the deciding factor. this can almost be said for VY’s early struggles, or does he get tossed to the side b/c he is not a throw first QB….yet.
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by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you ever have a thought
That isn’t somehow intricately tied to VY?
If you could get your head out of his ass for like 3 minutes you might be able to see that he’s not the god of everything that you think he is.
by TNTitans on Oct 28, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have....
no evidence that he’s not, wow a couple of years playing (combined) and ppl think hes just supposed to be the god of everything??? as you say. how is that to judge someones playing ability, i just knew that the success he had during his rookie season could come back to bite him b/c alot of ppl are just going to expect that from him when in actuality it takes a qb 3-4 years to get in his groove at most. so how about you get your head out of your ass.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did I say
That Sanchez has “fallen from grace?”
And exactly which former USC quarterback is lighting the world on fire? Is Sanchez another Palmer or another Leinhart?
Sanchez was never “in grace” in my eyes to begin with. You don’t come in with everything to lose, you come in with everything to prove. So far, he hasn’t done that.
And to use Peyton Manning as an example or comparison is at best premature, at worst ludicrous, and you know it. Exactly how many Peyton Mannings are there in this league? And exactly how many shitbags are there that will wash up before they should?
by TNTitans on Oct 28, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a fan of the last place toronto argonauts — we dont want delhomme
by mattd97 on Oct 27, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
It’s the D that has cost us most games, but putting VY in won’t hurt.
He screws up as much as Collins, but he does it in a more exciting way.
by Rustmeister on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Quote of the season!
He screws up as much as Collins, but he does it in a more exciting way.
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by gramsey712 on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
best reasoning for starting vince yet
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by hal41605 on Oct 27, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
He screws up as much as Collins, but he does it in a more exciting way.
My co-workers who do not read this blog, came over to see why I was laughing so loud.
They agree.
by hartley on Oct 27, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing VY isn’t 500 years old and been in the NFL for 100 years.
by cpabis on Oct 27, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more exciting....
indeed. and wins do come with the package, lets not forget that. would anybody care if we won the superbowl 3 to 0? isnt winning still winning anymore?
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what to say to this...
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think....
you just did.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
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by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Matter
I don’t care who we start at QB. Seriously, I don’t. I do not think it matters. I’m 50/50 on it. I think it would be exciting to watch VY and see what he can do, but I also think KC gives us a better shot at winning right now. More than anything, I want to see us look respectable. I want to see a running game that moves the ball forward, 3 or 4 yrds at a time… instead of 0, 0, 1, -2, then 45 yrds. I want to see less three and outs. And, I want to see some life on defense. I want to see someone other than Keith Bulluck make a play.
I’m a skeptic at heart, so the fact that at 0-6 Fisher still hasn’t given VY a start makes me question what is really going on. Maybe Vince has looked worse than ever in practice? Maybe Vince has no support in the locker room? If we think back to last season and the reports that Vince didn’t want to go back in the game… many considered that quitting on his teamates. Maybe they don’t want him in there. Would morale slip even lower on the team if Fisher starts Young and the players don’t approve?
In any case, I don’t see our chances of winning this week changing much depending on QB play on the field. But who knows about QB drama off the field?
The most important thing for our game against the Jags is not who plays QB… it’s that we don’t get blown out again. We don’t even need to win… just no blow out. We’ve had two weeks to get over the Pats game. If on Sunday, it looks like we haven’t gotten over it, then we never will this season… no matter who is at QB.
by Gas-House Gorilla on Oct 27, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fisher's stubbornness...
Calls the 0-6 and still not starting VY=VY sucks thing into serious doubt, I believe.
We’ve seen Fisher botch the return game, personnel decisions, scheme, and get horrendous performances from his team, etc. so why can’t he be making the wrong determination on who should start at QB? Is VY so bad that he can’t be used situationally? I think we all agree the answer is no, but Fisher still hasn’t tried that in the 22 games VY has been on the bench… not once. Fisher’s proximity to the personnel decisions likely clouds his judgment as a coach… if Collins isn’t the guy that gives the team the best opportunity to win, then Fisher is wrong about a significant football and financial decision he made just last offseason… just too much cognitive dissonance, IMO. Doesn’t mean VY is the “answer”, but it means we shouldn’t necessarily conclude VY is irreparably bad because Fisher prefers an old, 0-6 Collins dredging the bottom of the QB rating rankings. Doesn’t standing blindly by that type of performance throw one’s judgment into question?
by WC22 on Oct 27, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
I just really hope this isn’t all about Fisher just not wanting to be wrong. If that’s the case, then he is scewing the fans, the team, and Vince.
Jeff is the headcoach, and it’s his judgement and decisions that have kept him his job for 14 years. I would hope that even his worst decisions have been made with the thought that it was best for the team. I would expect him to continue doing the same thing now. However, if he really is just being stubborn, or the game has passed him bye… then I think we all know what will happen.
by Gas-House Gorilla on Oct 27, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying Fisher is intentionally screwing the team...
Just that he may be too close and stubborn to dispassionately assess whether or not he is screwing or has screwed the team. It seems obvious from the outside that whether or not KC gives you “the best chance to win”, he has not won, does not look like he will win, and at this point is completely irrelevant to the Titans plans or future needs. We’ve heard Fisher’s criteria for playing Collins numerous times… as long as he wins and/or plays well. He hasn’t done either and now we are given a justification that can’t be scrutinized by anyone other than Fisher and isn’t beholden to results. Given all that, I’m just not willing to automatically cede judgment to Fisher on all things Titans, such as KC bad=VY worse.
by WC22 on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He screws up as much as Collins, but he does it in a more exciting way.
that definitely should be the comment of the year. at least if we screw up it’s exciting now.
by TitansFanForever on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
….He does have his moments. Bud has to sell tickets now.
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone really have any faith in bud's football judgement at this point?
not to pay any disrespect to a great man, but he was 6 1/2 years old when al davis was born. he was 3 years older than al davis is now when he picked vince in 2006. just think about that for a second.
i realize that he writes the checks and has all the right in the world to direct his team in anyway he sees fit. hes deserves all the credit in the world for his accomplishments in life, which are nothing short of amazing. but taking his opinions for sound and effective football strategy is a pretty crazy leap.
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by hal41605 on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, yes. I agree whole heartedly.
I wrote that on my own blog this morning (DIDN’T MEAN TO PIMP IT JUST SAYING).
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by Jimmy on Oct 27, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ILLEGAL PIMPING^^^^^^^^^^
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hal, in most cases I would agree here.
I hate meddling owners.
That said, I think this is an unusual case where it’s abundantly clear that the owner is right. I don’t need to see practice. This team is 0-6, and the quarterback play is part of the problem. It can’t get any worse. Everyone in the country seems to understand this except Fisher. And, it seems to me that, at this point, Fisher just has it out for Vince. He wants a new quarterback to start over in the draft, and if Vince plays well, it throws a wrench in his plans. There’s obviously a lot of speculation, but that’s my .02.
by SuperHorn on Oct 27, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
change....
is always appreciated.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He owns the team.....
If I owned a team, I’d do the same thing. I paid the cost to be the Boss! Period.
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he can obviously pull that card
But meddling owners don’t produce winning teams
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That depends.
If Bud has already made up his mind that Fisher is gone, then he’s certainly not going to let Fish keep Vince on the bench. Bud needs to see what he has with Vince in the offseason. At that point, he’s not meddling because he’s already moved on from Fisher.
by SuperHorn on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if....
seeing what you have in VY to make a business decision for the future. i dont think that counts him as a meddling owner. and ppl, plz dont put bud adams in the same sentence as al davis, yall are better than that.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true most times but I don’t think so in this case.
A good boss trusts his underlings to do what he hired them for. But one of his jobs as “boss” is to guide the ship… make sure it follows the proper course.
The Titans “ship” is way off course right now. Adams is doing what he feels is best by trying to “right the ship”.
Also, he may be wanting to see if VY can REALLY be his QB in the future. Adams has to decide whether to re-do VY’s contract and keep him. If VY performs well, then Adams will re-do the contract and keep him. If VY plays poorly, then Adams lets him walk after this year and then he drafts a new QB in 2010.
Collins proved last season that he is an okay QB when he is managing games and the rest of the team is playing well. But if the team is struggling, forget it. Collins doesn’t really have the ability to bring the team back from behind or get into passing shootouts with guys like Brady or Manning. That’s not his game. VY has the potential to make big plays.
Adams knows this season is lost already so he wants to evaluate what he has and try & fix what’s wrong. It’s his team so that’s his right. And its not like he’s acting like George Steinbrenner did back in the day. Adams allowed Fisher 6 games to do something and when he decided to continue starting Collins, who has looked awful most weeks, Adams had to step in. But I don’t see him acting like Steinbrenner in every game from now on…
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by steeler-hater on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's about time.....
Bud stepped in and said something. For all those VY haters, might as well, the season is lost and it’s Vince’s contract year, what do we have to lose? Fisher can keep his job and we can see what we need to draft for in April. Personally, I think we should look at Terrance Kody from Alabama. He kinda reminds me of Haynesworth because of his size and he could really command double teams in the middle. It’s a win-win situation for everybody. Let the rookies gets some playing time, start Britt and put Gage in the slot, use a little bit more Smash then hit ’em with a little Dash and blow on the dice and see what we come up with.
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It isn't Vince's contract year
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well be
He has to either renegotiate or he’s cut.
by theologic on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true, it might as well be
but renegotiation is a big possibility. I guess I’m just pointint out that a contract year is slightly different than the situation he is in.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he up for a roster bonus?
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I clicked on the link for the Tennessean and both times I could not open it.
can someone put here so I can have a look please? I am anxious to know what Bud had to say exactly.
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by Joy kat on Oct 27, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I know we disagree on the QB’s, but let’s think about the draft now. Start Vince now so we can see what we have and save Fisher’s job. This no time for pride now, the season is lost, bottom line. Play VY, Titans still lose, put it on Bud. Play KC, Titans lose, put it on Fisher. I still think Fisher is a great coach, but you have to put things in perspective. Give the team a spark, see what we have and evaluate.
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by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one win....
with VY, makes it a success over KC.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure all the VY fans will see it that way..
by J3G77 on Oct 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why wouldnt.....
KC fans? its fact right?
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a KC fan, but...
…I’m also no VY fanatic either. I should’ve finished my statement earlier. One win may seem like success over KC, but it hardly constitutes as success as a whole.
by J3G77 on Oct 27, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah....
i know KC hasnt been the main problem, but he has been a big problem, his decision making has not been that great when the receivers have not dropped the balls. but its weird how the DB’s dont get drop happy when they get their hands on one of his balls. yes i am a VY supporter, not b/c im blind, but i think there is a huge chance he can prove alot of ppl wrong. a chance is just what he needs. if he plays himself out of ten, then so be it, im just looking forward to other possible outcome.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“yes i am a VY supporter, not b/c im blind, but i think there is a huge chance he can prove alot of ppl wrong.”
He’s already proven Bud Adams wrong.
I’m all for starting him, if for no other reason then to end this rhetorical question about whether VY is an NFL quarterback, as this season is pretty much in the tank right now.
by ky_titans on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and....
how has he proven bud adams wrong? im pretty sure bud thought we could go to the playoffs with vince. check. ppl are going to be so biased about VY, its like ppl just forgot about him winning ROY and going to the pro bowl, things that just dont happen. and then he gets his legs cut from underneath him, almost literally.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you look at the stats....
He had a 66.7 passer rating in 2006 and 71.1 in 07 with 21 TD and 30 INT plus 6 fumbles lost. That’s two turnovers per game while averaging right at one touchdown per game. If I gave you those stats for any other QB in the game you’d tell me I was crazy if I tried to justify that as the 3rd pick in the draft.
The defense was the biggest reason the Titans got to the playoffs.
If you’re a VY fan, by all means be a VY fan, just don’t try to sell me on it. If he proves me wrong then I’ll be sure to fess up. Until then I say as the 3rd pick in the draft, Uncle Bud screwed the pooch.
by ky_titans on Oct 29, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fisher keeping his job
depends more on the defense stopping people than it does who is playing QB for us… We will not win any games unless we get our DBs covering some receivers.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Oct 27, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True
But the Quarterback is the face of the Franchise, whether if it’s his faul or not.
MrDeeboi33
by MrDeeboi33 on Oct 27, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the thing
What if the locker room wanted Vince to start remember Mawae saying a long time ago that Vince brought a confidence a swagger. Why do people keep saying Vince can’t come back if they are down isn’t that what he has been known for. In the limited time he has played its like they don’t want to give him the chance to come back. In the Patriot blowout your down by fifty and you are running the ball that doesnt make any sense to me there was 7 or so minutes left and they didn’t even try to keep it from being a shutout they just completely gave up tried to eat some clock so they game would end quicker. That in my opinion is the coaches giving up and giving in.
If I remember anything about Young is he always played hard til the end
Nobody punished like Earl and No one was nastier than Ryan
by Garcia34 on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good stuff....
alot of players in the short past have said they have wanted VY to get a chance to get his job back, i think lendale is the latest to call for VY if im not mistaken. but VY is going to be branded a quitter by alot of TEN fans b/c of last year, even though those words never actually came out of his words. remember, everybody has their masters in body language all of a sudden.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Oct 27, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except the opening game of 2008
but lets not let facts get in the way of tired, old, false cliches
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
recievers?
Maybe we’re all missing it. Maybe it’s the recievers, not the QB. Look at Dallas. Miles Austin is making Romo look alot better than he really is. Could Brit be the next Miles Austin, or is there some 2nd or 3rd stringer on our bench who could make KC/VY look good?
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well we had an awesome receiver in camp, who made clutch plays and was a gamer
but we shipped him off to Canada. His name was Dudley Guice.
by joshuaboone on Oct 27, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, how could we cut a guy who dominated in the Super Bowl and playoff time?
Such a gamer. He had heart. The will to win. And we sent him to Canada. For shame.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 27, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
typical….we wouldn’t want keep anyone who might actually make a difference!
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
He has gone on to have a great NFL career….
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by Jimmy on Oct 27, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If VY starts this game
It will be the first game that will be interesting to watch since the Texans game…one way or the other.
Go Titans.
by T the D on Oct 27, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There shouldn’t be any discussion KC has looked horrible.
1.bad QB play
2. 0-6
3. play 2nd string QB (happens to won ROY,one hell of a athlete)
4.worry like hell Fish is being told to play someone he doesn’t want too (won’t be behind his QB)
I just don’t see the thinking of playing KC,for gods sake look at what happened when they replaced him when he started 0-3 !!
by cpabis on Oct 27, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing but more trickeration and strategery
from the arrogant and inflexible position of Fisher. I will be very surprised if Vince starts. Fisher has painted himself into a corner with the Collins contract and he’s bound and determined to “prove” he made the right call on Collins. Which is silly because Collins is probably done in the NFL. What other team would bother with Collins? I agree with Jimmy that Fisher wants to stay with Collins. Also, the Tennessean article just sounds like a different spin on the very same interview with Bud. I think the Tennessee is just dying for more traffic since the Titans 0fer start and rekindling the VY angle was just a way to bring in the suckers posters.
by Baha on Oct 27, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have already..........
Seen what KC can do in a game situation this year, it doesn’t matter how good he looks in practice he stinked it up! It’s VYs turn if he does bad then oh well atleast we know now!
by datboybevans on Oct 27, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the Jeff Fisher Show tonight,
Fisher made it seem as if VY starts, it was because it was a collective decision between him and Bud Adams.
Fisher artfully dodge every single question asked by the hosts and fans tonight. So, basically he said nothing.
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by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he missed his true career
politician
by numbertenox on Oct 27, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
the master of equivocation and prevarication
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by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 27, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bottom line is....
when your team starts 0-6, it’s time for the starters to start “ridin the pines”. Example: Miles Austin. Crayton wasn’t getting it done so in comes Miles & lights it up!! Let’s sit some of these guys out (since they’re just going through the motions, anyway) and lets see how that improves their trade value!!
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY
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by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE maybe maybe
By starting VY,
1. Dinger will ask for only quick, short passes from VY.
2. They will call more running plays, which is needed…also because VY can’t read defenses well.
3. Maybe he brings a little bit of swagger that some other players pick up on.
4. As a Titans fan, there is the slim chance that VY might actually progress and be worth all that money.
5. Finally, as mentioned previously, VY looks better at sucking than KC does.
Maybe….
by captainbojangles on Oct 27, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not too far of a stretch mr. bojangles
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by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not?
We’ve got nothing to lose at this point, except going 0-7. Being 0-6……0-7…….0-6…….0-7………0-6………0-7………..yeah, I don’t see alot of difference!
by titansfan4ever on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the tennesseen
probably kept it under wraps for a “competive” stand point- meaning, they want Jacksonville to think we could use either one.
by jmac1383 on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ALL-TIME WILDCAT!
Official MCM Hater!
Retire #9!
by gramsey712 on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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