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Some Advice for Jeff Fisher to Help Him "Feel Like a Winner"

Obviously a lot has been made about Jeff Fisher putting on a Peyton Manning jersey yesterday at a charity event here in Nashville.  Personally, I believe anyone that wears a Peyton jersey should be struck down right where they are standing, but that has more to do with my personal feelings about Peyton than anything else.

Let me start off by saying that I don't think what Fisher did yesterday in and of itself is a reason he should be fired.  A lot of people are saying that the thing Titans' fans should be the most upset about is the 59-0 beatdown the Pats put on our team on Sunday.  You will get no arguments about that from me, but that also doesn't mean I can't be upset about what he did yesterday.  And honestly, when I first saw this yesterday I wasn't all that upset about it.  I thought it was a stupid thing for him to do, but who really cares.  It was his reaction last night on his shows that really got me upset.

Star-divide

The biggest reason that made me so angry was because I hate apologies with a "but" in them because it isn't a true apology.  He's not sorry he did it, and that is his business, but he should care that it upset a large portion of the fanbase and he doesn't.  That helps prove to me that he has gotten a little too big for his britches. 

All of that brings me to the point of this post.  He said at the event yesterday that he wore the jersey because he "wanted to feel like a winner."  (I guess that was funny because this team that he pretty much hand put together sucks.)  Here are some thoughts that I think will help him feel more like a winner:

  • Be man enough to admit when you have made a mistake.  I know everyone loves loyalty, but the NFL is about getting results.  You don't have to publicly throw Chuck Cecil under the bus, but you dang better be doing something behind the scenes to strip him of his playcalling duties because it is painfully obvious that he is not up to the challenge.  You are a defensive coach.  Take the reigns or give them to someone like Dave McGinnis who can handle them.
  • Be all over Mike Heimerdinger until he gets back to what this team was built to do. RUNNING THE FOOTBALL.  Use Chris Johnson and LenDale White early and often in games.  That is the only way this team is going to have a shot at winning games.
  • Install some checks and balances in the organization because you need them. You, by all reports, have been given pretty much total control on all personnel decisions.  He proved that he isn't up to that challenge by failing to provide this team with anything that even resembles a back up corner back or a return man for the first 3 weeks of the season.  That is on you and you alone.
  • Start coaching like your job is on the line.  I know you are too proud to say that it is, but if you don't so something to light a fire under these players you will be fired.  You may not care because you will get another job in .52 seconds, but we do care.  Your players quit on you in New England.  Find a way to make sure that doesn't happen again.

Again, those are just some ideas that will help you, Jeff, be able to one day put on a Titans jersey and "feel like a winner."

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I agree about 75%
Start coaching like your job is on the line.

This could have been your only line in the post and I would have said you couldn’t have summed it up any better!

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TITANS NEED CREATIVITY

THE TITANS ARE SO PREDICTABLE ON DEFENSE IT MAKES ME SICK! IT STARTED IN THE PITTSBURG GAME WHEN WE WERE IN OVERTIME AND NEVER PUT BEN ON HIS BUTT INSTEAD LET HIM STAND BACK AND PASS RIGHT THROUGH US.
WE CAN’T WIN RUSHING FOUR AND WE CAN’T SEND AN OBVIOUS BALANCE BLITZ AGAINST GOOD NFL QUARTERBACKS.
PITTSBURG, BALTIMORE AND MOST SUCCESSFUL NFL TEAMS HAVE MANY BLITZ PACKAGES AND DEFENSES. THE PATRIOTS CAN GO WITH A 4-3 OR 3-4 WHICH EVER SEEMS TO BE NEEDED.
WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE!!!!! I HAD RATHER LOOSE BEING AGRESSIVE AS FEELING LIKE WE’RE JUST GIVING IT AWAY.

by WIN ONE SUPER BOWL PLEASE on Oct 21, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think your caps lock is broken

It’s the one above the “shift” key.

by MondayNight on Oct 21, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

be nice

Overreacting to CAPSLOCK on an internet message board is even more crazy than overreacting to a Manning jersey without looking at the whole context of the joke.

Can everyone just freakin’ chill out already? This stuff is not a big deal. Let’s get back to talking about the “whys” in regards to what is happening with the team and have healthy conversation about those topics.

Or maybe everyone wants to jump on this jersey thing so we can forget about the losing record for awhile? Sports Fan Psychology maybe?

by palpacino on Oct 22, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

And be all over your receivers and receivers coach for all these drops. And RB coach for the fumbles.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 21, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know who hates the fact that Tennessee is 0-6 the most?

Wade Phillips… because he pretty much knows that Fisher is the next Cowboys coach if he gets canned by the Titans.

Of course, Washington is also a possibility. But I think Dallas is the better job. (JMO)

I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...

by steeler-hater on Oct 21, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if fish goes....

to the cowboys……have you ever seen a billion dollar stadium burned down? lol i kid i kid….maybe.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Oct 21, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as hal would say, hide the sharp objects from "that one" - (john mccain voice)

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe more like....

matches. lol.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with half of your points. The first two are spot on

Install some checks and balances in the organization because you need them.

This is on Bud Adams and Underwood and even Mike Reinfeldt. Nobody ever puts checks and balances on themselves.

Start coaching like your job is on the line.

I only disagree with this because I don’t think effort is the issue. I think it’s simply a case of he needs to work smarter, not harder. Obviously, he didn’t want to fail. I also have no proof that his effort has been subpar. His results, yes. But effort isn’t an issue.

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

T-Rac

I think if you fear your job is on the line, you show a bit more emotion. Who is the emotional leader of this team?

Fisher doesn’t act like he has anything to prove. To me, that’s a false sense of self-worth built up by comfort and ability to talk your way out of anything.

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many coaches don't act with more emotion when their job is on the line?

The answer is all of them except Jim Zorn.

You don’t know what he is doing or saying in the locker room. You don’t know what the players are truly thinking, except for maybe one or two. Kearse isn’t a good barometer because he was mad he got benched, not because the team was 0-4 at the time. You don’t know what type of emotional leader Fisher is right now. We can only judge the results: the team is bad, and a lot os coaching related. However, we have no idea WHY the coaching is not getting through, lets not pretend we do.

Until we have REAL DATA on the way Jeff Fisher is emotionally handling this with his team, lets not assume he’s standing in front of them going “Bueller… Bueller… Bueller…”

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, he's sick.

My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

by TNTitans on Oct 21, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you....

simone.

"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."

by kg_2005 on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, the classic John Hughes

He is currently rolling in his grave at the quality of films today.

Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.

by pound the rock on Oct 22, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true, we don't have specific data

It’s my personal opinion.

I guess I read Fisher by his body language. It seems to be fair, considering reading body language is the popular choice for deciphering VY.

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree he is emotionless in his press conferences and with his fans

so your read on that body language is correct. If you think he should show more emotion with the fans, I can disagree with whether he should, but I don’t disagree on your read on his body language.

I am saying we have no ability to read how he is with his team because we don’t see him interact with his team. It’s behind closed doors.

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way,

I wasn’t a fan of reading Vince Young’s body language.

However, it annoys the shit out of me he listen to his iPod on the sidelines.

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, I hope it's not Kayne

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

T-Rac
However, it annoys the shit out of me he listen to his iPod on the sidelines.

This is a joke, right?

by SuperHorn on Oct 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

I thought it was serious. I started trying to think of what he looks like on the bench when they show him and in my head I could have sworn I saw little white ear buds. You jedi-mind-tricked me, T-Rac!

by palpacino on Oct 22, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the fans would just like to see Fisher show some empathy with the fans

“The (insert Patriots) are who we thought we were! And we let them off the hook! If you want to crown them, then crown them” or something like that! – Denny Green

“Playoffs?” Jim Mora

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if you fear your job is on the line

You probably go to work instead of showing up at the Rocketter facility to show off your cute little Colts jersey.

by BeansCarter on Oct 21, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right when your job is on the line, fuck charity

Poor people can deal with their own problems. I might get fired from a million dollar job then get re-hired 20 seconds after that!

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a fuck about Jeff Fisher's need to feel good about being a charitable guy

I don’t spend a fortune as a fan on his salary so he can be a good samaritan. I have many ways in my life to feel good about charity. The coach of my favourite football team is not one of them. Football is supposed to be fun for the fans. Fisher needs to take it more seriously. He says he’s a professional, he needs to act like one and not demean his fanbase when they are critical of him.

When he retires he can spend the last 30 years of his fucking life hosting charity softball games. Now is not the time.

Besides – people are being way too liberal liberal about what causes are worthwhile, as they can throw some blanket statement that anything that is for charity is above criticism. Rocketown is a like a gigantic drug-free indoor Dave and Busters for fucked up teenagers where they play bible-thumping Christ-metal. You know what? Spare the kids that shit, you’ll probably fuck them up even more than they already are.

by BeansCarter on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Fisher is allowed to have a personal life

and he can spend it on anything he wants to. His charity work is his business and you sound like an idiot and an asshole for attacking him for that. He doesn’t do charity for you, so get over it.

And no, being 0-6 doesn’t revoke his right to a personal life. YOU choose to spend a fortune as a fan of this team. Nobody forces you. If you don’t like the fact that the coach spends time at charity events that you dont approve of with his free time, don’t spend a fortune, dipshit.

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's been an important figure in the Middle Tennessee community for his involvement

He should be applauded and fans should be eternally grateful for that.

However, he doesn’t get paid to be a community organizer.

He’s paid to lead a team. Making fun of your team after a 59-0 ass whoopin’ doesn’t seem appropriate. He could have come up with another way to honor Dungy like telling funny stories about the two.

Don’t get me wrong, Fisher should be forever etched as “The Coach of The Titans”. I just think at this point, it’s time to move on.

The Titans are Sucky, That's Why We Need Chucky! Fire Fisher, Hire Gruden!

Bring Back Vince Young!

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

I CHOOSE to spend a fortune on this team.

I CHOOSE to feel like Fisher just buttfucked the fanbase.

I also CHOOSE not to support him anymore.

I make a lot of sacrifices for my job, and during particularily critical times, my personal life is the first thing to go. I expect the same from people whose jobs affect many more people than mine does. So while Fisher is entitled to his personal time in theory, there are a lot of coaches out there who will outwork him the minute he uses it.

Do you think that ultimate success can come with anything less than sheer obsession with what you do? Then you need to learn about ambition. I’m not sure what you do T-Rac, but I guess my point is that if you think like a plumber than that’s probably all you’ll ever be.

by BeansCarter on Oct 21, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Fisher has sacrificed enough on the personal side

He deserves respect for his commitment, it’s just the results at present time that aren’t cuttin’ it.

Blogging Until The Titans Win

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol what a trooper!

I love fisher and still believe in his abilities as “A” coach, not necessarily our coach. but you cant be a little bit pregnant. you cash the big checks and you carry the big matza ball!

"hey, quit reading these ridiculous words of wisdom and get back to work!"

by stetix01 on Oct 21, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How the fuck is that related to charity work?

For 10 years he’s been near the top of his profession. What are you talking about?

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 21, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your priorities are out of whack

your personal life should never be sacrificed for work – unless you are a firefighter or something along those lines.

get over some dude wearing a jersey.

by oilertitan on Oct 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another guy or another girl?

And am I allowed a return flirt from another woman in reciprocation?

by numbertenox on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know a few very wealthy plumbers

n/a

Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.

by pound the rock on Oct 22, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he put in 24-7-365 would you be satisfied?

What about the players and the FO and the field crew and the PR people…shouldn’t they all be equally obsessed?

I am a maintenance planner, so in a way I “coach” our maint crews. I do work longer hours when needed, and some of my guys do too. On average I put in 50-55 hours a week not counting the two hour drive EACH WAY I have to get to and from work. If my company really needed me to work late a week or two I can handle that. If however they wanted me here more just because our stock drops and sacrifice my personal life… screw that.

I have a job to support my family and my presonal life not the other way around. Just because Fisher makes more money than most if not all of us doesn’t mean he isn’t entitled to have a life just because we are unhappy about the team performance.

by Titan in WV on Oct 22, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHAHAHAHA!
Rocketown is a like a gigantic drug-free indoor Dave and Busters for fucked up teenagers where they play bible-thumping Christ-metal. You know what? Spare the kids that shit, you’ll probably fuck them up even more than they already are.

Its true.

by palpacino on Oct 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Stryper?

where they play bible-thumping Christ-metal

Blogging Until The Titans Win

by pigskinpundits.com on Oct 22, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the jersey thing is funny

But I do agree on most of the football things. And I guess now isn’t the time for Jeff Fisher to get cocky.

by jmac1383 on Oct 21, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just saw his Wed press conference...

…and I feel even worse than I did yesterday, when I made a post on this subject.

The fact this was for charity is totally irrelevant to the main issue, which is that Jeff Fisher continues to act in an overly-arrogant, stubborn, callous fashion in both his on-the-field coaching as well as his off-the-field demeanor and actions.

And guess what else? If the fanbase, as loyal as this Titans’ fanbase is, has a problem with something? Guess what! THERE’S A PROBLEM! Whether anyone likes it or not.

Go ahead and watch today’s press conference with Fisher and you’ll probably agree with what I said yesterday – this is a man who himself has quit on the team, and who is much more interested in doing things “his way,” regardless of the end result or long-term impact on the franchise.

by TitansFisher7 on Oct 21, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just watched

He was flippant again about the jersey incident…

Good for him that his ego is intact at 0-6. Good for him that he still feels like it is appropriate to be cocky. It’s just too bad he was so cocky about the abilities of his DC, his DBs, his return game, and his Quarterback.

It’s time for him to shoulder some blame for these losses. He simply won’t produce a mea culpa, but if he did, I think a lot of people in Nashville would cut him some slack. But I won’t. The Manning jersey pushed me beyond my limit.

by BeansCarter on Oct 21, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just watched the Cecil interview

Now that’s an appropriate response. He’s not proven to be a good DC yet, but he is taking the blame and is visibly concerned about the state of affairs with the team. he is also prepared to say that he will work harder, whereas Jeff defended his work ethic by saying “we always work hard”.

by BeansCarter on Oct 21, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This I will agree with you on.

I thought Chuck by far gave the bst responses. It is time for everyone else to own up and take some blame as well.

by Titan in WV on Oct 22, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind the jersey or anything...

the line “I just wanted to feel like a winner” seems like it would upset me if he was my coach.

by Great Paperclip on Oct 21, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Guys I wanna ask you

that the things are looking right now; around what is your expectations against us (I mean result) for the November 1st game?

(To be honest with you; if not my Jags would be the next opponents I would be rooting for the Titans; because you don’t deserve what you got to swallow on Sunday. Plus this whole Jersey gate; which I’m sure was a another hard hit for you. But because we are coming next…)

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 21, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your an Idiot Jimmy

That’s right , your an idiot, Jeff was just letting the Titans team who quit playing the very first game this season and every game since that he wishes he had one player the caliber of Peyton Manning. Jeff’s seen the light, he’ll be coaching elsewhere next season and doing very well while the Titans become bottom dwellers for the next 20 years.

by shebadog on Oct 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Official MCM Hater!

Retire #9!

by gramsey712 on Oct 21, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never seen that before

Hilarious!

Badass .50 cal in the background as well.

Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.

by pound the rock on Oct 22, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!

beat me to it. I cannot bust people enough for the misuse of “your” and “you’re”.

one of my favorite things to do on the inner web, actually, Thanks Paperclip for stealing my joy!

lol

by palpacino on Oct 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Jimmy possess

“an idiot”?

Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.

by pound the rock on Oct 22, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BAAAAHAHAHA

loving this thread today. one of my favorites ever.

by palpacino on Oct 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go Fisher (ing) One More Time

When I watched the Patriots totally take the Titans(oilers)?? apart the other day, I have to admit, it was like watching an awesome ProTeam play a bad high school team with 0 experience. I could only imagine the embarassment that Jeff was feeling and the Titan players, too. But, they didn’t get embarassed enough to get mad and figure out the other team was playing, running, passing, blocking in the heavy snow and then taking enough time to paddle the Titans behinds. The Titans(oilers) looked like they were trying out for baseball slide home tryouts. I guess with Jeff, it is better to try and laugh rather than cry. Bad timing for a comedy bit though. Will there be a Titans(oilers) next year?? Enough about that, I am going to get excited about UT and Bama this week end!!! Go UT…..

by UTennesseeforever on Oct 22, 2009 7:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it was like watching an awesome ProTeam play a bad high school team with 0 experience.

So… kind of like the University of Tennessee for the past 4 years?

by T--Rac's Posse on Oct 22, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOYAH!

Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.

by Jimmy on Oct 22, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff

Jeff should have the Titans coaching job as long as he wants it! He is a tremendous coach and the Titans would be crazy to let him go. I do agree that they have to do something on the defensive side Chuck either needs some heavy guiding or needs directions to the door. But anyone who calls for Fishers job should just go find themeselves another team to root for….

by Hawkeye_Joe on Oct 26, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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