Todd McShay 2009 Mock Draft: Wide Receivers, The Draft And Super Mario

by August West on Jan 6, 2009 2:00 PM CST in 2009 Draft Comment 30 comments

Todd McShay has his first full mock draft up (Insider subscription required) now that the 2009 Draft order is established, and he joins many other Titans fans in failing the definition of insanity: doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results... just like Mario up there.

Who does Todd have us taking?

32. Tennessee Titans (13-3) -- Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

Let me go ahead and say this for the first time of the draft season: We're not getting a 1st round wide receiver. It just won't happen, and in my opinion, shouldn't happen. WR is the least important position on the field in Fisher's system, and it's a system that's worked pretty well over the years. A great 1st round WR won't help us win nearly as many games as a better talent and depth at defensive lineman CB, LB, interior offensive lineman will.

We need new receivers, obviously, but that big of an investment is a bad idea.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'll go on record as hoping we don't go WR in the first round. Defensive talent at any position would be a better investment for the best team in the NFL. Every year guys unpredictably regress or get injured and depth is the key to making sure we're the best defense in the NFL for years to come. And being the best defense is the key to keeping a stranglehold on this division and this conference.

I expect this discussion will be on going, and tempers may even flair over it. The truth will remain the same though, it ain't happening.

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Can you imagine a formation

With VY in the shotgun with Crazylegs on one side and Harvin on the other?

Gives me chills just thinking about it.

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by gramsey712 on Jan 6, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yup.

Defending all three of those guys would be a nightmare.

My pipe dream…find a way to get Jeremy Maclin.

by SuperHorn on Jan 6, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What about FAs?

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/fa/wr.html

I’d like to see them make a run at Devery Henderson. We need a guy him that can stretch the field…

by SuperHorn on Jan 6, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

a Free Agent is a lot more likely, IMO

especially given the franchise’s inability to develop any WRs since Bennett.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Jan 6, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BUT WE HAVE MCCAREINS!!!!!!!!!!11

What more do we need?

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by gramsey712 on Jan 6, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

More likely, yes

But, generally ineffective. I like Devery, in the sense that it seems more realistic that he lands on this team, however my preference would be a 1st round receiver.

With the rare exceptions of guys that have baggage (Randy Moss, TO, etc, guys who Fisher wouldn’t take), teams hardly ever release/trade their high end receivers because they are such a highly coveted commodity. If you want a dynamic receiver, you almost have to get it through the draft.

As you’ve hinted above, it’s basically a difference in philosophy. While I think that defense is the most important, especially d-line, we’re solid in all aspects of the game other than receiver. It’s a glaring need, and one that needs to be addressed.

It’s also important to remember that with the exception of last year, Floyd Reese has been calling the shots. Mike Reinfeldt threw us a curveball last year with CJ; he might do it again this year with a 1st round receiver.

by SuperHorn on Jan 6, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I want Housh

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by Jimmy on Jan 6, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he's gonna be top prize of the FA WR's

dream on. i want him too, but i would die of shock if they did that.

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by hal41605 on Jan 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What hal said...

by SuperHorn on Jan 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I know it is a dream

but on January the 6th I can dream it.

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by Jimmy on Jan 6, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

if it's my move to make, i go for housh and draft harvin.

if they really want vince to succeed, it’s time to get him some toys. all of a sudden our offense would look pretty dangerous with good qb play.
VY/KC
CJ/LDW
Harvin
Housh/Gage/Jones
Crumpler/Scaife
they can develop line players from outta nowhere on both sides of the ball, same for line backers. the only other position they would really need to address after those 2 pickups would be secondary depth.

Keep AH for sure, and Scaife/Collins for the right price and add Housh and Harvin, 2 more weapons to the offense and we have a hell of a team with great talent on both sides of the ball. they then can use later round pick to fill in the usual spots at LB, the lines and secondary.

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by hal41605 on Jan 6, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you...

Look at Dave Ball. Guy’s bounced all over the NFL, gets to Tennessee and immediately is a role player.

Though, Maclin is only a bit higher on the draft board than Harvin in many places I’ve looked. Take him if he’s there. Similar players, but less of an injury risk.

by SuperHorn on Jan 6, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm hoping CB or LB

Harper isn’t getting any younger. Neither is Bulluck, for that matter. If James Laurenitis somehow makes it to our slot (which I’m desperately hoping is 32nd) the Titans need to grab him. I realize that is a pipe dream, but damn that guy is awesome.

If I hit a hole-in-one on this grand slam the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

by jasonkylebates on Jan 6, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm just wondering

If regardless of who Fisher and crew pick, will all of those “experts” be so quick to pull the trigger on giving him a grade of D again for his draft class after he made them look foolish and ended up looking like a genius with the CJ and Jason Jones picks.

by ArmyTitansFan on Jan 6, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yes they will

by theologic on Jan 6, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I want Anquan!

But I would settle for a Macklin or a P.Harvin if I have too, they are gonna bring a lot to a team, look at Desean Jackson and Eddie Royal for instance…

August I respectfully disagree… With 3rd and 5-8 Yds to go it would be nice to have a dependable WR to throw the ball to. I’m tired of J. McSuckiens and Brandon Jones(who has been better with drops of late) drop critical passes that would have kept drives alive or even drop a pass that could have been a TD or even set up a TD.

I think with our style of offense a good possession receiver would really help. Look at what Mason did for us and does for Baltimore. A guy like him would be perfect. I think it would only help make us more diverse.

Where we will be picking is the perfect spot to pick one cuz the other teams will be afraid to take a chance on a receiver.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think we should draft The Hawk

Oh wait… we did. Noone has mentioned him. I still think he can be good. He will get the offense over the offseason and I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts next year (and McSuckiens is gone). Paul Williams is probably done for. Not sure about Chris Davis.

We have to remember that sometimes it takes awhile for WRs to develop in the NFL. I think I read once that the average is 3 years.

I agree with Jimmy. We need to draft defense. A CB, LB, or SS would be good.

by theologic on Jan 6, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This comment isn't an argument for a first round receiver

The statement “Fisher has a successful system where receivers are unimportant,” strikes me as a neat excuse for a one dimensional offense that gets bailed out by its defense.

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by Sam Page on Jan 6, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

So what is YOUR reasoning for Coach Fisher not investing in a receiver?

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by gramsey712 on Jan 7, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

?

1. Fisher is not the GM
2. We have invested in several receivers these past two years, with little to no success.

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by Sam Page on Jan 7, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not really

it’s just the case in several systems in the NFL. Hell, Drew Brees just threw 5,000 yards without a single Pro Bowl receiver. Dinger’s offense is much the same in that it stresses check-downs and running WRs at different levels.

Of course a stud would help, but there are only about 10 of them in the league and they almost never come cheap. It’s more likely that we develop one or get a FA who already knows the ropes than drafting a guys who is more likely to be a bust than a stud (as is the case with 1st round WRs outside of the top 5 picks recently).

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Jan 7, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hell

I’ll take Marquis Colston or Lance Moore over ANY of our receivers…

by SuperHorn on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd take Lavelle Hawkins over any of our receivers.

…oh wait…

DannoE

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Go Titans!

by DannoE on Jan 7, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed, but those are a 7th rounder and an UDFA

which was my original point. look at how little 1st rounder Robert Meacham has done there…

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Jan 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

harvin would be awesome

the guy is a playmaker, and i would take him in a heartbeat if he was available at our slot. maclin is going to be long gone (unfortunately). we’ll probably end up taking some random player at a random slot where there isn’t too much need (see grif and cj). hopefully we can make it 3 in a row for first round picks (could be 4 if vince gets his crap together).

by rolypoly32 on Jan 6, 2009 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

naw

Knowing the Titans we’ll pick defense in round 1. Like a CB, we’re okay, but if Harper and Finn. goes down, King isn’t bad but I’ll hate to think Hill is our next option. We definitely think we’ll go CB first. I agree that we’re more likely get a WR in the free agency.

by jmac1383 on Jan 7, 2009 12:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I don't have an ESPN Insider account

Can you tell me who Todd projects for thwe Texans’ pick at #15.

Thanks in advance and good luck vs Baltimore on Saturday. Hopefully Big Albert and Kyle will be good to go. Should be a great hard hitting contest.

by oiler-texan diehard on Jan 8, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He's got you guys taking the beast of the draft, IMO

15. Houston Texans (8-8) — Taylor Mays*, S, USC

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Jan 9, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks very much August West

The way Mays seems to be shooting up the draft lists, I will be pleasantly surprised if he is still available at #15. The Texans have always had a weakness at safety and Mays is the type of big,fast hard hitter that could step in from day 1 and improve the defense.

Good Luck to the ex-Oilers today. Should be a real slugfest.

by oiler-texan diehard on Jan 10, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs