Tennessee Titans Morning Links: Brainsplosion Edition
This may be the only link we need today. Vince Young is not cut out for this league, at least not right now [ED: emphasis added is mine]:
Felicia Young said her son has grown weary of all the negativity he faces as an NFL star. On Monday, he indicated to those around him he didn’t want to play football any more.
"Vince has gone through a whole lot as a young person,’’ Felicia Young said. "And I think he has done pretty well up to this point. But it is hard, all he is going through right now. He’s hurting inside and out.
"But he will be fine if people are prayerful and help my baby boy out. He is a young man. He just needs a lot of love and support.’’
When the frantic search for Young ended, Fisher and the Titans said the incident had been blown out of proportion. So did some of Young’s friends and family.
But the events that led up to it all — and the fact Fisher called police — showed just how much concern the team has regarding the mental state of Young, who suffered a left knee injury in Sunday’s season opening win over the Jaguars. Young opted not to get an MRI of the knee on Monday; an MRI on Tuesday revealed he has a sprained MCL that could keep him out anywhere from 2-4 weeks...
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On Sunday, before Young was injured against the Jaguars, he initially refused to re-enter the game after throwing an interception and getting booed by fans. His decision to ignore the team’s request for him to have the MRI created even more friction between the player and the team, and indications last night were the Titans have turned the team over to back-up quarterback Kerry Collins.
Even when Young returns from his injury, he might not get his job back.
The Titans believe Young’s injury is one that will keep him out anywhere from 2-4 weeks.
Then there’s the question about whether Young is interested in returning, something he mentioned to those who were with him on Monday.
"What would you think, if you were tired of being ridiculed and persecuted and talked about and not being treated very well, what would you do? What kind of decision would you make?’’ Felicia Young asked. "He may not want to deal with it (all), but you have to get to that point before you make that decision first.
"But we’re not talking about football right now. We’re talking about what would make him happy, and that is the most important thing.
"… You don’t want people to be hurting like he is. But it is a growing-up process, and he will eventually come out like gold no matter what. But Vince is going to be OK. We are just going to try and give him some space."
Excuse me while I struggle to prevent a brainsplosion. I have a confession to make: I was wrong about Vince. To the people I castigated or offended while defending VY, I apologize*. This is honestly the most betrayed and confused I've felt regarding any athlete. I hope he gets the help he needs, and I hope he can get back in the saddle for us when he's ready.
That time, however, shouldn't be any time soon.
On to players who do want to play: Introducing your new Titans starting QB, Kerry Collins... and back-up Phil Chris Simms.
Gary Estwick says Courtland Finnegan is the AFC Defensive Player of the Week, but nfl.com says the voting isn't over until thursday... hmmm. Interesting note, Travis LaBoy is also nominated after a very Boom King like performance.
Floyd Reese ranks the Titans' O-line as the class of the division, and not just because he built it outside of Jake Scott.
Be sure to check out Jimmy's interview with AOL Fanhouse blogger Sportz Assassin.
* it should be noted that this apology does not apply to Colts fans.
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Sigh.....
It’s gonna be a rough day fellas.
Just be ready.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 7:46 AM CDT
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I'll preface this...
by saying I’m a Horn. However, I wonder if this entire incident hasn’t been blown out of proportion. He had a terrible day on Sunday and probably said something to the effect of “Man, I don’t wanna play this game anymore.” This could have been his feeling at the time, yet it is not indicative of his true desire. However, the media loves to sensationalize everything, and so this blows up into “Vince Young wants to quit football….forever.” Even in the article you mentioned, Jimmy, it says that he was watching football, and was shocked by how much the incident had blown up into.
by nahmorlah on
Sep 10, 2008 7:55 AM CDT
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Maybe, friend, but...
…this isn’t the first time that Vince has mentioned wanting to quit football.
by B-Rizzle on
Sep 10, 2008 7:57 AM CDT
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If this is all true...
…if Vince (for the 2nd time now) is mentioning that he may not want to play football anymore, I don’t think that the Titans can really include him in plans for the future from this point forward. I still defend the pick and I’d still make the same pick all over again if I were ignorant to the latest details in the Vince saga. There was really no way of knowing that Vince would lack…of all things…leadership qualities. I thought leadership was the one thing that we could count on with Vince even if the legs became tired and the arm never panned out. And that’s a major reason why I was excited when we signed him. This is a stressful situation for me. Part of me hopes it works out and that he comes to his senses. Another big part of me hopes he just goes away at this point and that we move forward without him. The team is too talented to let this soap opera destroy this season. We’re looking at an AFC with a weak New England and a weakening Indianapolis and a Tennessee team who just took down another AFC powerhouse in Jacksonville. If there is going to be a year where it’s wide open with big Superbowl possibilities for the Titans WITHOUT a marquee QB, this is it. I don’t want the Vince saga screwing that up.
by B-Rizzle on
Sep 10, 2008 7:56 AM CDT
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My freakin head just exploded -
What a freakin mama’s boy -
What would you think, if you were tired of being ridiculed and persecuted and talked about and not being treated very well, what would you do? What kind of decision would you make?’’ Felicia Young asked.
What would I think? I’d think, oh, they paid me a $58 mcontract, with $25.7 million guaranteed. What would I do? I would grow a pair of balls, and say screw the media, they don’t know shioooooot! My decision would be to act like a man, not a child.
by TrenchantTitan on
Sep 10, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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As for VY being a mama's boy...
we should not take it negatively against him. From what I heard, he grew up estranged from his father and it was his mom who raised him. I would understand why they would have a closer bond.
Go Titans!
by Pinoy Titan on
Sep 10, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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My comment
was a knock on his mother speaking to the media. This should have been handled through his agent. I have never heard of another NFL player’s MOTHER speaking to the media – EVER!! His mother has no role in the NFL, and should not be subject to the media. Just a guess, Vince told her what to say, which is why I called him a mama’s boy.
by TrenchantTitan on
Sep 10, 2008 12:42 PM CDT
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Retraction...
Donovan McNabbs mother said he likes Cambell’s Chunky Soup -
by TrenchantTitan on
Sep 10, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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I am sure he will come out of this depression, but for now the team needs to have
a solid, unselfish team oriented leader. If that is Collins, great! If not, find that person who is. Young never gave me that feeling of being team oriented, the closest he came was in his rookie season and he was cheering everyone on the sidelines, but his words after games were unsettling and always came back to being about himself, you did not see any other NFL quarterbacks doing that except maybe Rivers for the Chargers. He turned me off big time then and it has not changed. I won’t say anymore about that from this point forward. Honestly I do hope he is able to get through all of this and move on successfully with his life. He has a tremendous amount of physical capabilities, but finding the right niche for him is something that will need to be done. IT should not be as an NFL quarterback though.
by Joy Kat on
Sep 10, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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I agree with everything you just wrote.
/shudders
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 8:40 AM CDT
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Embrace the positive.
We could have done a LOT worse than Chris Simms. We damned near had Harrington or Leftwich.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 9:01 AM CDT
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He'll be back in ten years...
…after he spends a year in Jamaica and then wins the Grey Cup seven times in the CFL.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Now I'm shuddering.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 9:01 AM CDT
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Collins will do fine, I will be shocked if he doesn't do a good job Sunday.
I am not expecting Brady type performance, but he doesn’t have to be that guy. He just needs to maintain possession and make SMART decisions The rest of the team can more than hold its own. One thing to keep in mind though from Sunday with the Jags is that their offensive line was playing 2nd stringers throughout most of the game, no wonder Garrard was sacked 7 times. The Titans D looked extra great against them partly because of that, but they should do very well this weekend as well. Chris Johnson is a top notch performer and White is a nice compliment to him. The Titans should roll.
by Joy Kat on
Sep 10, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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As we were watching the game, in a restaurant bar with no sound,
My wife says to me. “He looks just like Ricky Williams did before he went nuts.” If you watch Vince’s body language after Int #2 you will see it.
He will probably get it back together, he needs time.
by DZone on
Sep 10, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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Ricky Williams and Ryan Leaf
comparisons are all over national news and radio today.
by numbertenox on
Sep 10, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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Too early for that
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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Oh, I agree. It was just that even while the game was going on for her
to make that statement was amazing and that was before he was hurt. I don’t think that VY is as damaged as either of the other two, but I do think he is hurting. I also don’t think it is a career ender like Ryan.
by DZone on
Sep 10, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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"Betrayed and Confused?"
I think everyone needs to step back and relax. Vince’s career isn’t over, and the ship hasn’t sailed on him being a bust.
Most will agree that the “it” factor has been missing since his rookie year. At some point, the game stopped being fun to him. A “crisis” like this may be exactly what he needs, and the injury may be good timing. Take 2-4 weeks off, evaluate things, and hope the attitude has changed when he gets back.
“I was wrong about Vince. To the people I castigated or offended while defending VY, I apologize*.”
What were you wrong about?
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 10:12 AM CDT
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I was wrong about all of the talk that he was a warrior and a leader in the clubhouse.
All of the times I said he’d never quit on this team after the retirement talk last off season and that he was mentally tough enough to take us to the promise land even though he kept pouting on the sidelines.
Seroiusly, name 1 other QB around whom talk like this has surfaced twice?
I hope you’re right, but I think we can all admit that the prospect of him turning this around quickly is more long shot than good bet.
The ship hasn’t sailed on him being a bust by any means, but the ship as at least been christened. It’s on him to keep it from sailing now.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 10:18 AM CDT
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Disagree
Until we see what happens when he gets back, we are only reading what the media feeds us. Let me spin this a whole other way…
Young’s whereabouts
A friend of Young’s said on Tuesday the quarterback was with him watching Monday Night Football in Steve McNair’s office in Nashville when police were searching for Young, and neither had any idea anyone was looking for him. Earlier, the two had stopped by Nuttin’ but Wings on Jefferson Street and exchanged autographs for free wings, Raymond White said.
"We sat around watching football and eating chicken wings,’’ said White "Everything was fine. There was no problem.’’
Agent Major Adams, who represents Young, said on Tuesday the quarterback was shocked at all the attention the story generated on Tuesday.
"He understands that people care about him and all that; that is the good part of it,’’ Adams said. "But to have it all blow up like it was … Vince feels like he can’t go anywhere without people knowing where he is 24 hours a day. That’s the only negative part of it. He’s fine.’’
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Then there’s the question about whether Young is interested in returning, something he mentioned to those who were with him on Monday.
Vince has a horrible day at the office. Fans boo. He is frustrated about the way things are going. On Monday, among family and friends who he thinks he can trust with the media, he makes an off hand comment about how tough football is and that maybe he wants to quit; this later gets leaked to the press. The media attention is getting to him after he feels things have been blown up after the sideline incident. Mom and family wont stop nagging him and asking if he’s depressed. He’s sick of it. Leaves his cell phone at home and goes to see his mentor at his office to get away from things. An over worried mother calls Fisher freaking out. Fisher sends for the police because Felicia has overblown Vince’s mental state. Psychologist declares that Vince is gasp depressed because it feels like the entire city of Nashville has turned on him in a matter of hours. Vince is shocked that all this has been made public, and pissed off at mom for calling coach. Trying to remedy the situation, mom calls the Tennessean with her own spin, which only makes matters worse. Onlookers freak out…call for front office to look for a new quarterback in the upcoming draft.
Now, I’m not saying that is what happened. But, I don’t believe everything the media is saying, either. What I am asking, though, is that everyone reserve judgment for now.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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all of that is possible, but if you can watch Sunday's episode and tell me Vince is ok
then you’ve got some hella faith. If that’s the case and Vince is just a little down, then he should have addressed it himself in the media, instead of letting Fisher and his Mom address it.
Look, I’m trying to believe this will blow over and he’ll be back in a month, but the realistic side of me is pissing all over that part of me that believes that’s the case.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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I don't want him to come back in a month.
These antics could derail the season. If he wants to come back, he’ll have to re-earn his job—maybe in Training Camp next year. Seriously, they don’t have to cut the guy, but it wouldn’t hurt him to spend six months holding a clipboard. All those sycophantic hangers-on he keeps might start giving him some space then.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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Help me understand
What antics you are referring to. If you are suggesting he should hold a clipboard because he pouted on the sideline, that’s your opinion (which I happen to disagree with.) But, other than that I don’t think you have nearly enough information to make any sort of a conclusive evaluation about what’s going on with the kid.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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Not so much pouting
as throwing a temper-tantrum.
With a C on his jersey no less.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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Inexcusable
And he should get a tongue lashing for that. But, it doesn’t warrant benching him for an entire year.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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No, but...
being outplayed by Collins after pouting and refusing to play does. If Collins is playing better, why should Vince get the job back when he already demonstrated that he didn’t care if he was playing or not?
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 10, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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Do we really think
that Collins is gonna be that much better when teams have a whole week to gameplan for him?
I’m skeptical.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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If history is any indication
That won’t happen. I hope he’s lights out, but his production has been less than spectacular.
Let’s have that discussion when it happens.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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Fair point.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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Fair enough
I was just pointing out what would warrant benching him. Basically him quitting on the team plus any kind of sustained success from a replacement QB.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on
Sep 10, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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I agree here
What he did on Sunday is not exceptable from a captain. You cannot refuse to go back in a game. He doesn’t deserve to be on the field right now.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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His mom...
has basically thrown him to the wolves at the moment, with her comments. I understand she’s a mom and she’s super worried, but she’s making the situation much worse.
by nahmorlah on
Sep 10, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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isn't it a bit of double-talk
Why complain about all the attention that you’re getting:
Vince feels like he can’t go anywhere without people knowing where he is 24 hours a day. That’s the only negative part of it.Right after coming from a resturant where you traded free food for an autograph? It sure sounds like he loves some of the stardom. Couldn’t he had sent his buddy in to the joint with some of the $25 million guaranteed that he’s made and just paid for food while he chilled in the car, if he was really getting overwhelmed by the attention he’s getting?
by cgolden on
Sep 10, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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Except that the "buddy" in this case was almost certainly McNair...
…but other than that, I agree.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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well it's much more acceptable AFTER one has a Hall of Fame resume
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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i'm willing to take this bet
i say he’ll bounce back quickly
Go Titans!
by Pinoy Titan on
Sep 10, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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"Name 1 other QB..."
Brett Favre.
But not when he was still in his 20s.
by hartley on
Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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is it true
Hey guys, I a Cardinals fan but I keep hearing on our local radio station that he met with a psychologist sometime either Monday or Tuesday and that the psychologist didn’t give the Titans a good report. Have you guys heard that and is there any truth to it?
by cgolden on
Sep 10, 2008 10:24 AM CDT
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From the Tennessean.com story linked in the post above:
A psychologist was among those who met with Young at his Brentwood home on Monday, and what she concluded and told team officials led to a bizarre, 24-hour period that ended just after midnight Tuesday morning.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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WOW!
Some Titans fans admitting they were wrong about Young? Kudos to you for not blindly following your team and agreeing with it’s decisions.
Maybe you’ll agree with me now when I say that Collins>Young
by furrycolt on
Sep 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
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For now
Yes.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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don't start, douchecanoe
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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And you knew this was gonna happen, August.
Pile on! Pile on!
Did you see the Bears game Sunday night?
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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Furry,
Worry about your own house before sticking your nose in someone else’s.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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Maybe I'll agree that the Colts blow
I’ll take Snuffleupagus as my QB and our D and running game will still beat the Colts in both locations this year.
On VY: what an embarrassment to the legacy of Michael Jordan. MJ taught this generation that you don’t succeed without failure. Also, he taught everyone about the necessity of mental toughness in order to succeed not only at just sports, but at anything worth doing.
The exact moment I hear that VY quits the team, I will burn my VY jersey, and the Titans should not EVER allow him back on the team again.
Irony: didn’t we get rid of another previous first-round draft pick earlier this year to avoid so-called “distractions”?
by TitansFisher7 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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distractions > convictions
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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One person is contributing to his team,
while the other is not.
by TitansFisher7 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:39 AM CDT
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Re:
“what an embarrassment to the legacy of Michael Jordan. MJ taught this generation that you don’t succeed without failure. Also, he taught everyone about the necessity of mental toughness in order to succeed not only at just sports, but at anything worth doing.”
I guess you’re forgetting about the time MJ retired because of his “Dad’s death”…read gambling problem.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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Can We Withhold Judgement Until Vince Says Something?
I have yet to read a direct statement quoted from Vince Young regarding this ridiculous piece of drama. When Vince comes out and says “I don’t want to play football anymore” then I will give up on him, but not until then.
It’s pathetic that you so-called fans are selling him down the river before he even has a chance to defend himself of these accusations. If they all turn out to be true that’s one thing, but it’s unfair to Vince to attribute things to him that he himself has not admitted are true.
I predict Vince will be back and and you will all end up rooting for him again at some point later in the season. I hope you will remember this when it happens.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
Vince Lombardi
by TmanInTn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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So since this "so called fan" is "selling him down the river"
then you are telling me that it is OK for a National Football League quarterback to throw his helmet into the wall on the sideline, sit on the bench with his head down and then just sit there by himself watching (not having even looked at a trainer to tell them his “hamstring was tight”) and watch his offensive teammates go back out on the field.
Not to mention sit on the far end of the bench and stare off into space when his team scores the clinching touchdown.
And you don’t see any problem with that? That is what you want out of your quarterback?
I don’t care about the ints. That will get fixed. I care about the bullshit childish garbage that I saw on the sideline.
Bulluck should have gone over and ripped that C off of his jersey.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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I don't think anyone
Is OK with that. But I also think that people are jumping to a lot of conclusions based on what we are hearing from the media.
Again, until we know more, let’s not be too hasty with out judgements here. The sky is not falling, despite what the Tennessean would like you to believe.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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We can agree
that all this crap from Monday and Tuesday has probably been overblown.
I just don’t think I can get over what he did Sunday.
Jimmy, let’s talk about the Bengals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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I agree that he needs to grow up
and I’m not supporting his actions on the field as they are inexcusable. But Vince is hardly the first athlete to pull crap like this. L. Tomlinson pouted like a baby last year in Tennessee when we were whoopin his ass, and you don’t hear San Diego fans calling for him to be traded.
Seriously, you guys are taking this WAY TOO FAR. Let’s hear what Vince has to say about it first.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
Vince Lombardi
by TmanInTn on
Sep 10, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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Vince has had plenty of time
to come out and speak for himself, but he hasn’t stood up and taken responsibility for anything since he has been here. Why would he start now?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 12:21 PM CDT
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He Has Taken Responsiblity
Here’s Vince after crapping the bed in Cincinatti last year-
QB VINCE YOUNG
(on loss)
"I feel we are not playing the football we are capable playing right now. We know how we need to play. I don’t know what is going on. We have five games left, and we need to get back to work."
(on not scoring touchdowns in red zone)
"We commit a lot of missed assignments. I put it on myself when I cannot lead the team into the end zone. I put our situation on myself. I need to do many things better. I need to get our team into the red zone and score points."
It’s pathetic the way you guys are crucifying him.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
Vince Lombardi
by TmanInTn on
Sep 10, 2008 12:42 PM CDT
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I apologize for using never
But he has had plenty of time to come out an explain why he blew off an MRI on Monday.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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So you don't see anything wrong with what he has done.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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Yes, I do.
I said above the pouting has to stop. He does need to grow up. I’m not defending that.
But the way that people are reacting you would think he was waving a loaded shotgun at the crowd after the second interception.
Seriously folks relax. Vince will be back. And you will be rooting for him again when he does. Selling him down the river now will only make you look like an even bigger idiot in a few months.
It certainly won’t be the first time people have doubted Vince only to end up eating crow later on.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
Vince Lombardi
by TmanInTn on
Sep 10, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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I am in complete agreement
With all of what you said,Tman. This is getting out of hand.
by SuperHorn on
Sep 10, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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I think Vince made his statement with his actions on the sideline
But I agree, we are at a crossroads where VY’s career will explode supernova-style or he’ll succeed as a QB in this league as a direct result of triumphing over this adversity.
If he gets some mental toughness, and then owns up to his previous mistakes and behavior issues, then I think everyone would agree it would be nice to have him back.
Regardless of the end result, it is still a disgrace we have to even discuss this right now.
by TitansFisher7 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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I'll tell you where Vince hasn't made a statement, and that's to the media.
He could have calmed it down with ease. Instead, he skips his MRI and then pout for ANOTHER FULL DAY, eventually scaring his family so much that they get the coach and the police involved.
Yo! If he was ANYONE not named “Vince Young,” they’d have just cleaned out his locker, and that would have been the end of it. Honestly, that made still happen. They didn’t sign Chris Simms (instead of Ingle Martin) because they think VY will be back in a week or two.
Bottom line: the guy doesn’t seem to want to play anymore. I mean, how many times do I have to hear it before I start to think, “Y’know… maybe this guy’s heart just isn’t in it.” In fact, if he’d had his head in the game Sunday, he probably wouldn’t have gotten hurt. But regardless, he won’t be on the field for my team on Sunday. You guys can worry about Vince all day long for the rest of the year; I’d rather cheer on the guys who are still playing and who still want to play.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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Go Titans!
And we still got Cortland Finnegan.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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If there is someone who can't handle the pressure...
it’s Vince’s mom.
She the one who panicked when VY left home without telling her and have Fisher call the police. Now she’s the one trying to convince everybody that VY wants to quit so she can protect her baby.
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by Pinoy Titan on
Sep 10, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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I understand where Vince's mom is coming from, I really do feel her anguish, but saying
the things she did publicly is NOT the way to handle this. VY should have stood up himself and made a statement. It is his responsibility to take care of this, not his Mother’s. He should have apologized for his behavior much like Haynesworth did and that would have made this a whole lot easier for his career. Many were calling for Haynesworth head when he made his mistake, but he realized his error and atoned for it. Haynewsworth is probably one of my favorite players of all time, That can happen here, but the time frame for forgiveness is narrowing rapidly. I don’t think the media is blowing this up more than what the story is either. I think it is the way it appears and VY will have a LOT of work to do before he is allowed to play for the Titans or any other NFL team
by Joy Kat on
Sep 10, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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Remember
McNair left the team rather than mentor VY.
by Tate on
Sep 10, 2008 12:13 PM CDT
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That's not exactly fair.
Plus… McNair, if he applied for reinstatement, would be a Raven. This is the exact same type of thing that happened with Favre.
DannoE
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by DannoE on
Sep 10, 2008 12:14 PM CDT
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I didn't mean to come back and play
I meant to publicly come out and support VY.
Would it not help the current perception?
I think it would.
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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That is what I was saying
about McNair leaving. I am not sure how much he felt he could do for VY.
by Tate on
Sep 10, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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Just chill
sure none of this news has been very encouraging but just chill for a bit. First of all you really cannot believe half of what the media tells you. especially when you consider the media, for the most part, hates vince and has hated him for a while. so of course they will make this sound like the end of the world. another thing is the team is still here. as much as we wanted it to be true the team is not about vince young. he isnt even one of the top 5 most important people on the field. this football team is about running the football and playing defense and looking at Sundays game, we can do both. its not an exciting brand of football but its won us a lot of games last year, not vince. i wish he would develop and mature into a great qb but i dont think out success really hinges on him. also regarding kerry, i don’t think he is the answer or even the better of the two. they are about equal to me but all we need him to do is play mistake free football. let the team take care of itself, it will trust me. we just cant have our qb ruining things for us. just chill out trust me things will work out.
by Shainoc on
Sep 10, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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semi pro
and does anyone else think that they way vinces mom is reacting is sorta like clarence downtown funky stuff malones mom on semi pro? thats just what im seeing.
by Shainoc on
Sep 10, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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Ha!
That’s a nice pull… that movie is so much funnier than it got credit for!
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Once VY makes his statement....
either he will apologize for his actions or he will announce his retirement.
I say he’ll apologize.
Go Titans!
by Pinoy Titan on
Sep 10, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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I am certain an apology will come before a retirement announcement, unless
he is really that weak minded. My hunch is that he will want to come out and prove everybody wrong, which is the attitude a competitor should have. If he really makes a decision to retire that is unfortunate that such a large amount of money was completely and totally wasted on him .
I think it is taking a long time for him to say something because A.) he is so embarrased by his own behavior or B.) he just doesn’t feel that he needs to say anything to account for his actions and feels that the public should just let up on him.
by Joy Kat on
Sep 10, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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Did JK just take up for VY?
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by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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No I am definitiely not in his camp when it comes to playing, I just feel that he will not want to end his career in this
humiliating way. Who would? I really, truly do want him to get to a better place mentally though. Of course I want him to be a happy person on the inside However behaving like a child when you are 25 years old and a highly paid professional is not acceptable and doesn’t do anyone any good.
I still personally feel he WILL NOT ever be able to successfully lead a NFL team because of the things that existed before this all happened. 1. )He is not accurate enough 2. He is not intellectually capable of handling the pressures of being an NFL quarterback. 3. His maturity level is not allowing him to grow and develop. I have always said that he is loaded with physical abilities that few have, but he does not have the smarts to make it work. I know this offends many, but it is my opinion and you don’t have to agree with it. If he proves me wrong I will be the first to admit it and so far that hasn’t happened.
by Joy Kat on
Sep 10, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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this entire thing reminds me of the oj bronco chase
i accept your apploigies for saying vince young and his wonderlick score speaks volumes about his mental abilties.
he may have been good in highschool and college but he looks like he cant make the transition to the nfl. he looks like a mediocore collge qwaterback out there playing in the nfl
i always thought a jay cutler would have been a better choice and it has come to pass that he is indeed a better all around qwaterback at this point and we would have been much better served as fan by picking jay instead of this this mental weakling.
they need to call him on his wanting to quit. if you dont want to play then leave and see what he says to that when hes sitting on the cornor drinking his 40. he needs to quit then maybe and only then will he realize its not all about him.
his mommy has probally givin him everyting he want s when he crys and starts to pout so its translating to the nfl now.
just sucks if you think about all of our high draft choices we had to pay for by being lousy the year before. we have wasted all of them. pacman 6th overall gone, vince what was he 3rd pick? mental breakdown along with cris henry. what a waste of draft picks. someobody needs to do some mental evaulations of these guys before we make the same mistakes again.
by dentureboy on
Sep 10, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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This has absolutely nothing
to do with the wonderlick. He didn’t pount on Sunday because he isn’t smart. I know plenty of really smart people that pout all the time. Get off it.
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by Jimmy on
Sep 10, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Teams do a battery of psyche tests at the combine
but you can’t predict the future. VY’s confidence right after the Rose Bowl and his confidence now seem radically different.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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You mean
If you were an animal would you rather be a dog or a cat kinda psych tests? ;-)
Sorry, but I remember taking sample psych profiling tests in college (took a couple of psych electives) and pretty much all the students thought they were a load of hooey. Would you rather be a dog or a cat is probably about as effective. I think the only thing you can do is look at background, and in VYs case from all I’ve heard there’s no precedence that would make it seem likely he’d react this way to adversity.
As far as getting carried away about it, as long as VY isn’t reading this blog all the fan chatter about it isn’t doing any harm.
by numbertenox on
Sep 10, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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I love it when people call VY dumb, then misspell the name of the test... happens all the time to.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on
Sep 10, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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Wonder what they would score on the Wonderlick?
by gramsey712 on
Sep 10, 2008 2:44 PM CDT
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I gotta ask my wife that one.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
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Sep 10, 2008 3:08 PM CDT
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