The Best Quote I Have Ever Seen From Vince Young
"It's 'Vince can't do this' and 'Vince can't do that,'" Young said. "I don't want to be a pocket quarterback. I want to be a Hall of Fame quarterback. Compare me to Randall Cunningham in my game. I ask our coaches to let me be me on the field. I listen and I do what I am asked. But they are listening, too."
Last year we spent a lot of time wondering why Vince Young wasn't running the ball more. We wondered if it was him trying to prove he can be a pocket passer or if it was Norm Chow trying to fit VY into his offense. If VY means what he said above we have our answer. That means we should see more of the magic in 2008 that we saw in 2006.
That quote came from an interview VY did with NFL.com that has a lot of interesting things in it. The most interesting is that he says he was contemplating quitting football after the 2006 season:
"I really thought long and hard about it," Young said on Thursday after practice. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things."My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
While I don't believe that he seriously would have retired, it is an interesting quote. The timing to me is the most interesting part. I wouldn't have surprised to hear him say something like that about the end of last year, but at the end of 2006 he was coming off a great rookie season that got him a trip to the Pro Bowl. He said in the interview that he felt lost in training camp last season. This doesn't excuse his play from last season, but it does make a lot of the body language we saw from him on the sideline make more sense. He just didn't look like he was having fun in 2007 like he did in 2006. Of course I am speculating here, but a lot of that probably came from his differences in philosophies between VY and Chow (interesting sidenote: Frank Wycheck just said on the radio he could never figure out Chow's offense).
None of this matters heading into 2008. Chow is gone. VY will get the chance to prove that his problems came from trying to deal with Chow's offense and not anything else. Mike Heimerdinger is going to tailor his offense to VY instead of trying to tailor VY to his offense. If VY will use all of his tools, he will be a really good quarterback. I am just really excited to hear him say that he wants to get back to playing his game.
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"I don't want to be a pocket quarterback. I want to be a Hall of Fame quarterback."
And that’s why I love VY.
As for the retirement quote: I think all players, but especially franchise QBs, encounter that moment when the NFL really shifts from a fun game (provided that the player is good enough to not embarrass themselves every week… coughkylebolleralexsmithcough) to a hella-tough career… if VY keeps his focus and listens to Dinger, there’s no limit to how far he can take the Titans.
Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!
by August West on May 27, 2008 8:53 AM CDT 0 recs
It's easy to see how it could have been frustrating.
Chow’s offense ran fine while the team could run its base sets. But as soon as the opposing D made an adjustment, it always seemed like the wheels came off. And that was sooooo frustrating in a team with such a talented improvisational quarterback.
It’d be interesting to see that offense run by somebody like Carson Palmer or even Kurt Warner, but in the absence of that kind of experienced pocket presence-and that experience is RARE in today’s NFL-I think it requires some better thinking in offensive design. Or maybe Chow was overthinking it, I don’t know. It sure as Hell seemed like the QB and receivers were NEVER on the right page.
As far as VY quitting, I mean, he clearly has a tough job. He’s well-paid, but that doesn’t make it easy. I know I’d hate that level of media scrutiny. The fact that he thought about quitting, even thought about it seriously, isn’t a bad thing. It just means he’s self-reflective.
DannoE
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Go Titans!
by DannoE on May 27, 2008 9:43 AM CDT 0 recs
no joke
VY actually tries to open up and show some self-evaluation and honest reflection with the media (which is what NFL reporters whine about never getting to see), but he’s going to get torched by the same credentialed mouth breathers, you watch.
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by August West on
May 27, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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It's already started.
You sort of expect it from ESPN, but it’s sad when you ALSO get it from the Tennessean.
BTW, I still don’t see why it’s a big deal. I mean, God forbid the guy do a little soul-searching when things get tough. Yeeash!
DannoE
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Go Titans!
by DannoE on
May 27, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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also, those Indy Donkey fans at Stampede are f*cking idiots.
Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!
by August West on
May 28, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
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Heh. I haven't checked in since yesterday.
No doubt they’re all over there planning the joint OJ Simpson/Marvin Harrison “Find the Real Shooters!” Cruise to coincide with the 35th Anniversary of Joe Namath’s retirement.
DannoE
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by DannoE on
May 28, 2008 8:54 AM CDT
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No no, their stance is to not talk about or let anyone else talk about it and hope it goes away
Which is a course of action common among children, idiots and fundamentalists… I know we sure as hell didn’t take that stance with Pacman, and he wasn’t even firing the weapon.
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by August West on
May 28, 2008 9:04 AM CDT
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I like the comment
That Coach has no faith in Vince—that’s why we didn’t draft a receiver in the first round.
Obviously they know a lot about Fisher ball.
Douchebags.
by gramsey712 on
May 28, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
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August
I think you just sent up the Batsignal for the Trolls.
Wait for it…..wait for it…..
by gramsey712 on
May 28, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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I'm sort of afraid of that, too.
But I still couldn’t stop myself.
DannoE
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Go Titans!
by DannoE on
May 28, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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It's just such an assholish thing to do
to write a post about a QB who has: only played about 1.75 years, won more games than he’s lost, won ROY, went to the playoffs and been a huge factor in turning around a franchise that was in a malaise, only to crush him as a glorified Ryan Leaf. I honestly can’t believe how many people across the country are tickling their junk while trashing VY.
I can’t wait for VY and his team to come back and light up the AFC South this year… starting with a sweep of those damned Donkeys to the north.
Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!
by August West on
May 28, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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Wow
He wasn’t and never would have been a pocket passer. Let’s see Vince dance in his own shoes this year.
by RhiNo6705 on May 27, 2008 9:50 AM CDT 0 recs
Vince
I will get reamed by all the VY-idol-worshippers. I enjoy watching Vince play and I think he is a grat player. However…he is drama queen. He gets “hurt” as often as soccer players and is just as dramatic. Now he face a little adversity and he considered retirement?
by DonFrancisco on May 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
huh?
he wanted to quit? he needs to get married have some kids and grow up and stay out of the gay looking bar pictures. feeling sorry for himself and his self pitty for whatever reason is no reason to give up a great paying job so he can emotionaly feel better about himself or whats going on around him. you dont see bret farve quitting cus his dad died.
he needs to go on opera and talk about his emotional issues but when it comes to playing in the nfl he needs to drop the wuss act and get mentally tough if hes going to be sucessfull in my opinion. i think if he got married and had some kids his outlook would change. you dont see albert worrying about emotions and wanting to quit cus he stomped that guys head. he wants to put food on the table for his family.
thank god dinger is back cus if chow was still in there it would have been a disaster this year. this way vince gets what he wants a new start with a new system that fits him and hopefully they will let him do the things he wants. but if they do let him loose and give him what he wants offensively he better get results or i think his long term success in the nfl will be in jeprody.
by dentureboy on May 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT 0 recs
agree, but
i think big al and his wife are either in the process of being divorced or are already divorced. doesn’t have anything to do with your point, tho.
vince is one of those qbs that is going to always have to deal with an excess of media attention regardless of how he’s playing. it’s an extra burden. he’s darned lucky he’s in TN and not NY or similar large media city. he’ll have more time to mature here.
by numbertenox on
May 27, 2008 8:39 PM CDT
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You don't have to be a VY-idolizer to recognize tha 23-year-old kids sometimes...
...act immature. As usual, I think a lot of folks are reading too much into this. God knows that I did some crazy/stupid/emotional things when I was that age. It happens. In the long term, what does it matter?
DannoE
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Go Titans!
by DannoE on May 28, 2008 6:48 AM CDT 0 recs
Interesting
I don’t think it’s stupid at all. None of us here have ever been an NFL quarterback, so we don’t know what that transition is like. It’s like August said, VY went from playing in college and loving the game to the game becoming work. It has to be a bit of a shock. Especially with the blood-thirsty media. I think it says a lot of about his character if he isn’t swayed by the millions of dollars. I think instead he was concerned with whether or not this was how he wanted to live his life. He made the right decision, no doubt, and I applaud him for taking time to think about it. There is nothing wrong with thinking about our choices… some of us should do more of that.
by theologic on May 28, 2008 7:59 AM CDT 0 recs
Titans fans
don’t worry about the BS. You are right. Young has won several games for you, and has flashed that college brilliance that puts me on the edge of my seat everytime I watch him.
Does he have things to work on? Sure. All great QB’s work to improve every year. I think switching coordinators could prove to be all the difference. Also, as I posted over at Stampede, it is true that all the great QB’s of the past several decades struggled at first. Everyone needs time. The real idiots are the ones who give up on someone too soon. Smart leadership has proper patience, and your team has smart leadership.
All I would ask is to please consider that not all Colts fans are inflammatory “donkeys”. Not even most. I was born in Tennessee, and I love to visit the state as often as possible. I have noticed that many Indiana people like the Titans, even have roots in Tennessee. We are also grateful to you for Manning. I have been a Vols fan ever since he played there, and was thrilled when we drafted him. I also noticed that there are a surprising number of Colts fans in Tennessee. I assume that Peyton has something to do with this, but I don’t know for sure.
I expect that Vince will improve this year where he could use it, and will improve even more next year, his second year with ‘dinger. If I am wrong, then fine. But if he progresses, we will have the best answer for all the skeptics. Until then, it is mere speculation. Choose faith while we wait. I know I will.
by coltsfanawalt on May 28, 2008 3:19 PM CDT 0 recs
WE DON'T NEED YUR KINDA ROUND HERE NO HOW!
Nah I’m just kidding ya. Most Colts fans I know are far more like yourself and not the type on that comment thread. Normally I’d stay out of it, but trashing VY hits a sore spot for me so I feel compelled to stick up for the dude when I fell he deserves it. I think Marry Hoge got me down that road right after we drafted Vince.
Who knows how it’ll all shake out, but I really believe Vince is going to make a helluva a rival for you guys to contend with twice a year
Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!
by August West on
May 28, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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He already is.
Last I checked we have matched up pretty closely in our last few contests. It seems that the ball ends up in Vince’s hands, and I’m screaming at our defense to “do something!” to stop him. Last year’s last game was kinda unusual in circumstances, but the three previous contests were as close as they come.
by coltsfanawalt on
May 28, 2008 3:50 PM CDT
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