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Antwan Odom Signs with the Cincinnati Bengals

As gramsey mentioned, Antwan Odom has agreed to terms with the Cincinnati Bengals according to his agent.  The deal is reported to be 5 years $29.5 million with $11.5 guaranteed.

This is what most of us thought would happen.  Odom would get out there and someone would throw a bunch of money at him.  I wouldn't be that concerned about the loss of Odom if it wasn't for the fact that rumors are swirling that Travis LaBoy will sign elsewhere as well.  While it would hurt the Titans to lose both guys, I seriously hope they don't panic and overpay LaBoy.  Losing both guys would be tough, but they have chosen to put a value on guys and not pay more than that.  They should stick to their guns when it comes to LaBoy.  If he wants more than they think he is worth let him walk.  They can find a guy to take his place in the draft that doesn't have the concussion history of LaBoy and is a lot cheaper.

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How much would
losing both guys change our draft strategy?  

Do you think management will feel the need to take a DE in the 1st rd?  I hope not.

We were doing pretty well with a couple of 2nd rd. DE's. It cannot be that hard to replace Laboy's 13 tackles and 6 sacks. Obviously it will be harder to replace Odom as an every down player.

With the strength Albert and KVB it shouldn't take a special player to get production. I say go out and get a productive strong DE that will help against the run in the draft in the 2nd-4th rd area. Maybe Jacob Ford can be the situational pass rusher that Laboy was.

Any updates on Jacob Ford?

Anybody know anything about a guy like Antonio Johnson?

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 3, 2008 8:36 PM CST   0 recs

I read
that the Rams signed Jacob Bell.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 3, 2008 8:43 PM CST   0 recs

If we go with the draft to replace them...
I hope we can snag Quentin Groves.
DEAR M. REINFELDT: PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS GOOD DRAFT EARL BENNETT!!!

by August West on Mar 3, 2008 9:50 PM CST   0 recs

I don't understand
we are letting all of these players go one year after just missing the playoffs. I understand letting a few go but we are letting everyone go... We had the number 5 ranked defense for a while but now that defense has been scattered across the country on different teams.

Is this going to be another rebuilding year? or are there some truly good lineman coming out in the draft this year that can help us get to the playoffs THIS YEAR. We are going to have a lot of holes going into the draft. Mel Kiper is going to have material for days studying the Titans offseason moves...

by ElectricScissors on Mar 3, 2008 10:21 PM CST   0 recs

Rebuilding Year?
Listen guys. Are we really this upset about losing these guys? I mean I loved all of them just as much as the next guy, but come on. With all the attention that Vanden Squash and Albert got, were their numbers really that great. Don't forget about last year when all those commentators were saying we were gonna take a big step and then boom we are in the playoffs. Those were the same guys i saw on tv last week saying we are on player away from being a serious super bowl contender. Vince will improve next year as will all of our young guys. And there are very few guys on the team that are close to the end of their career. Rebuilding year? Not a chance. This offseason is already a lot better than last even if we lose all our FA's
The Jassus Has Spoken

by The Nasty One Lives on Mar 3, 2008 11:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I agree.
Odom, LaBoy, and Starks were all decent players, but only when Big Al was on the field.  When Al went off, KVB got double-teamed, and the rest of that D-Line tended to get manhandled, even one-on-one.  Odom was easily the best of the three, but even he was HIGHLY replaceable.

With that said, he didn't get quite as much money as I'd expected.  Personally, I thought that was a basically reasonably deal.  Not too much guaranteed, and a lot of money clearly in the out-years of the deal.  If his production drops off, they can release him at the end of two years and not be too badly hurt.

DannoE

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by DannoE on Mar 4, 2008 6:48 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

and Randy Moss
will remain a Patriot... oh well...

by kpocyclo on Mar 3, 2008 10:26 PM CST   0 recs

As long as
Their moves make sense mid-long term, honestly, I don't care about next year.  I would much, much rather a strategy that keeps them competing for playoff position for a long stretch of years than the "oh crap, who do we get to make it next year" approach.  If the guys they are letting go in FA (so far three - Hartsock, Odom, Starks, probably 5 with Bell and Laboy) all are guys that get payed more money than is sane for their play ability, let 'em go.  So far, Starks definitely and Odom probably were picked up for more than their playing ability has shown they're worth.

You won't see a franchise winner like the Patriots playing crazy money for players in FA.  There's a darned good reason for that.  Over the long haul, letting other teams overpay your good but cash-hungry FA is better than you overpaying them.

by numbertenox on Mar 3, 2008 10:41 PM CST   0 recs

who
  made these contracts for the defensive line all come up at the same time?  i mean dont you think if we had thought to stagger their contracts so they come due in different years might be something to look at so we dont take such a hit  at defensive line.
  that said iam sorry to loose them but o well life goes on iam not all that disapointed.
  i do think reinfelt is still stuck dealing with reeses mess he left as far as contracts go. its going to take a few years to purge reeses influence over the team. atleast its not as bad as  or four years ago when even the ball boy and cheerleaders left for more money.  

by dentureboy on Mar 4, 2008 5:19 AM CST   0 recs

Blame Floyd Reese.
But he already got fired, and clearly no one else wants to hire him.
DannoE

Go read FRIDAY MAD SCIENCE at www.paperbackreader.com
Thanks!

by DannoE on Mar 4, 2008 6:49 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

This is not good.
Now we have half a D-line... The strategy of other teams should be quite simply to attack the weaker.

We are sound at Linebacker, ok at Safety (provided Hope is healthy) but need a CB.  We know Harper gets beat on man coverage and could really use a shut-down guy.

Reinfeldt could (read should) have kept one of the Ends.  I am afraid this comes back to haunt us.  Albert misses games and takes too many plays off to carry the line all year.  I expect the Titans will draft a DT and/or DE and will get some washed up schmuck on the cheap late in free agency as a Rush End.  Linemen signings by FO last year were terrible.  They bring in Corey Simon, who then immediately retires...  Bryce Fisher, who is essentially a tackling dummy for the practice squad, and Ulrich Winkler who came over from NFL Europe.  

The strategy should have been very simple this year:

  1.  Keep the Defense mostly intact, pick up a good CB in FA.
  2.  Sign a speedy impact receiver and an impact Tight End.  Re-sign Gage
  3.  Sign a change of pace back in FA or Draft to compete with Henry.
So far they have re-signed Gage, and landed a Tight End.  Off-season Grade to date...  pretty low.

by BeansCarter on Mar 4, 2008 6:51 AM CST   0 recs

Teams overpay
I think we have seen alot of teams overpaying for average players.  I think that they will find quality players still on the market.  Look at Gage when he was signed we all thought that was lame signing and he has worked aout well.  Its a gamble in free agency or the draft.

by VY on Mar 4, 2008 7:47 AM CST   0 recs

remember what I was saying last year about our DL?
well, you can just go ahead and apply that to this year...

i don't mind having odom and laboy gone, b/c well, i wanted them upgraded anyway.....

we need DLine help much more than WR/RB!!!!!!

a good DLine wins real games...

a good RB or WR wins your fantasy games....

by zackmann on Mar 4, 2008 3:10 PM CST   0 recs

here and there
busy with this and that....

mostly though in the last year of grad school and have a lot of writing needed on my PhD dissertation....

i still check back here every other day or so for titans news.......i probably would have been on here discussing more stuff with everybody more if FA hadn't been so predictable (us losing LaBoy, Odom and Bell and then sitting on our wad of cash)...

I love the Crumpler signing....great stuff....

I now hope that us losing odom, laboy and bell will get us some compenstation picks, allowing us to deal our picks to Detriot for Roy Williams...

i'm also hoping we sign warrick dunn (cue the jokes about us being the new look falcons)....

but i'm seriously worried about our DLine.....what are we gonna do?  Without a good DLine we are screwed....

everybody can agree that Brady>>>>>VY and Moss>>>>>>>>>>>all of our WR's......right?  that isn't controversial...

and then think about this....

the Giants DLine was so good they could overcome and beat the best QB-WR duo in recent memory....

a good DLine is the key to the NFL....

what are we gonna do to improve ours?

by zackmann on Mar 4, 2008 3:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Well not exactly
"the Giants DLine was so good they could overcome and beat the best QB-WR duo in recent memory...."

Saying that doesnt prove much when your comparing apples(Brady-Moss & Company) to oranges(VY-Roydell & Company). We may be able to prevent points with a good pass rush but that doesn't do us good if we can't score any points remember we had 9 passing TDs this year.

We still need to give Vince weapons on the outside and the Crumpler move was a step in the right direction but it won't solve everything.

We can plug anyone on the left side of our D-line and they will do ok now i would prefer to add great talent so that if Haynesworth or KVB aren't in there is still a threat.

But i still think WR outweighs any other need. We should definitly recieve a good comp pick or two and hopefully we can use them to our advantage to trade our regular picks.

by SoCalTitan on Mar 4, 2008 6:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

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