Salary Caps

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 10:08 AM CST

Alots being made of re-signing Albert. I would love to see him stay in TN but I am curious and concerned as to how it would effect contracts with other players, existing Titans such as Courtland and CJ as well as future possible WRs (our biggest need IMO). I agree with what I have heard from the Titans staff about it taking time to groom a collage player to be a be a top rate WR so that leaves signing a free agent that can make a dfference. Free agents are expensive. Free agent WRs have egos and attitudes. How does this all play out. Personally I would love to see a Detroit defection. Not sure if its possible but you at least know he would be hungry.

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Signing Albert

wouldn’t effect anything really with Finnegan. They locked him up before this season started. CJ is a rookie so he is locked up for 4 years probably (I can’t remember the terms of his deal). I would say they could sign Albert and still get a receiver like Housh, but I really don’t see them doing both.

Don’t be surprised to see Albert playing somewhere else next season. They are all about value, and if they think they have a decent replacement in Jason Jones, they will let Albert walk and draft another defensive tackle.

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by Jimmy on Dec 27, 2008 10:19 AM CST reply actions

Who is

That 6’5" 380 DT the Jets are all in love with wanting to draft? Housh would be a good pick up (every Steelers game would be a blast). Like I alluded too earlier, I think Calvin Johnson would be a great pick up and probably the best deal.

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 10:33 AM CST reply actions

Is Calvin Johnson going to be a FA?

Isn’t this only his second or third year?

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Dec 27, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah

he is with the Lions for another year or two…….weather he likes it or not

by jtc2086 on Dec 27, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions

I Googled it

He signed a 6 year deal last summer Sucks to be him.

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions

haynesworth is as good as gone

by vancouverTITAN on Dec 27, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions

Agreed.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Dec 27, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions

I'd be very surprised

if he is resigned. Too much money out there behind teams that need defensive help, and the Titans have a lot of depth and good coaching at the position. They’ve become a DL factory.

Great player, but he wants to get paid, and this kind of thing is what FA was created for.

If only we could learn to grab players from a WR factory.

by numbertenox on Dec 27, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions

If only we could learn to grab players from a WR factory.

Not sure how spending the bucks for a top WR would tie into Fish’s “Run First and Often” mentality. It seems that the focus is on O line, and Defense.

If they did have a sudden change of heart and picked up a really good WR I am not sure how much of an incentive playing for the Titans provides to them vs. a typical west coast style offense where they will get more looks. IMO that means we would have to pay more than the going cost just to get them.

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

Edited to add...........

Could just draft a Safety and move Griffin to WR. I dont see him arguing with that one. LOL

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions

Ok so I should have

Checked the individuals I named and how they applied to the post but the premises is still sound. There is alot of well founded concern over losing Albert but not much thought over how signing his check would actually affect the team. What we have now, what needs to be re-signed, and what we need to pick up in the draft and free agency. Your Thoughts?

by Oden1 on Dec 27, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions

It depends on if there is a salary cap after 2010 and if 2010 is an uncapped year.

In an uncapped system, Tennessee will never be able to match what places like Dallas, NE, NYC, DC etc. can pay. Hell, to an extent, even Houston is gonna have a marked advantage in an uncapped world. TN will still have about the same effective cap as they have currently. And yeah, it’s not impossible to win in that environment, but you have to be very smart, build through the draft, and let high-priced guys walk—much like they do now. Matter of fact, I would expect that the Titans’ de facto salary cap (what they could afford) is probably rather close to what they’ve been spending year-in, year-out now.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Dec 27, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions

I'm really sceptial when people say that the NFL is going to go uncapped

The whole reason the current CBA has the uncapped seasons at the end (like most of the previous CBAs did) is to get the owners negotiating early because the vast majority of them want nothing to do with an uncapped league.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 27, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions

*skeptical

(stupid firefox only making be sound smart by spellchecking in the comment body)

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 27, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions

You need grammar check also

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by Jimmy on Dec 27, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions

35 million

That is how much the Titans are going to be under the cap going into the offseason. This new regime seems to have the philosophy of building through the draft and resigning their own guys.

I truly believe the Titans will resign Haynesworth no matter how much it takes, I think it was their plan all along (as long as he had another great year)

Jason Jones is going to be a great player but he is no Haynesworth and never will be. They are different players. Albert is a big guy who occupies blocks so others can make plays, while Jones is more of a penetrating type

I don’t think the Titans will sign Housh because of the new philosophy, they will save that money to resign their own guys down the road

Look for the Titans to maybe make a trade for the Rams Torry Holt – for possibly a 3rd or 4th round pick and look for the Titans to finally take a WR in either the first or second round this year

As for an uncapped year, I truly believe that something will get done and it will not come to that, but if it does,drafted players will sign for 6 years, giving the club a longer window with said player and allowing the team to resign their players to long term deals in year 3 or 4 if they’re any good

by TitanRob on Dec 27, 2008 8:06 PM CST reply actions

I have given up on them ever drafting a WR in the first 2 rounds

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by Jimmy on Dec 27, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions

See

that’s what I am thinking about Haynesworth.
I remember last year someone asking Jeff about Albert he said, “Albert isn’t going anywhere”.
Think it was the first Charger game, but maybe Jeff was saying that about THIS year, I don’t know..

Just hope your right big Rob!

by RhiNo6705 on Dec 27, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions

don't you think we would've signed him last year if they don't intend on letting him go?

it would have been waaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper. there’s no way our front office is dumping that much cash on any player, especially one who is injury prone. this is the last year we have haynesworth. simple as that. it was awesome seeing him cheering on the dline during the pittsburg game. it shows that he just wasn’t playing for a contract this year – it shows that he really cares and wants this team to win the superbowl. i never thought i would say this, but fat albert is a class act.

by vancouverTITAN on Dec 28, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions

They

sure tried, and came close it soudned like, but maybe they thought by franchising they would get his 100% every play, instead of maybe 90% or somewhat if they had given him a deal. Now they might not have that choice and will HAVE to sign him. That’s what I’m hoping :)

by RhiNo6705 on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 AM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure I agree that it would have been cheaper last year.

My impression was that Albert wanted to be paid like the top DT, period. Last year, this year, he wanted top dollar. Bottom line, he wanted the money he could potentially earn THIS year, and he wanted it last year, or he was gonna take his chances with the Franchise tag and hit FA when he got the chance. Remember, they offered him a deal that was the equal of the one that guy in Chicago signed, and Albert turned it down. So he wanted top dollar, regardless of year.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Dec 28, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

Anquan Boldin

I would like to see the Titans make a move for him… He’s a beast!

I can’t see Zona holding onto him for much longer.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Dec 27, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions

Draft order

It’s hard to predict before free agency but I would say the Titans draft order would look something like this:
1. CB
2. WR
3. Traded for WR Torry Holt
4. S
5. G
6. DE
7. QB

by TitanRob on Dec 28, 2008 8:39 AM CST reply actions