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Ok, you seem like decent fellows I'll waive the 5 cent fee.  I'm WCG and I run the Bears blog Windy City Gridiron.  Jimmy was kind enought to offer to answer any Titan related questions I'd thought I'd return the favor.

If you have any questions related to the status of the Bears or the upcoming game, I'd be happy to give you any insight I might have.

And so you don't have to ask I am predicting the Bears win 150,000 - 2 (stupid safties).

 

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Orton/Grossman??

The million dollar question.

by gramsey712 on Nov 6, 2008 7:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it will be Grossman

I know there has been a lot going around about Orton, but I think that might be some mind games going on. Maybe to make the Titans prepare for both. Maybe just to calm down the masses. The overlying theme to this is that Orton is not hurt as bad as first reported. He has no torn ligaments and no high ankle sprain. He is walking without a limp.

I think Grossman gets the nod, Orton is the backup and they will start Orton next week versus the packers.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 8:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say half and half

if you saw the replay he did take quite the hit on that ankle. It would just be better to have him back 100% for the rest of the season then to put him in early and injure it again.

But yes, the Packers game is more important than the Titans game. We have a one game lead and while we’d like to keep that, as long as we take care of business in division we should make the playoffs.

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by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 8:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No problem.

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by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets see Dislexy Rexy

I am a humble fan, a great humble fan.

by Joy Kat on Nov 6, 2008 7:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Don't expect old Rex

I’m not saying he is coming in as a brand new QB, but I think you will see less of what people have become accustomed to. He played a few games at the end of last season before getting hurt and played well and generally mistake free.

With your pass rush he won’t have time to sit in the pocket and over think. He will have to just take his three steps and unload to his first read or drop it off to Forte.

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by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 8:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When rex is "on"

he’s a machine. Hopefully we won’t see that Rex.

We see a lot of bears game here televised; guess there are a lot of chicago transplants living in Nashville. I remember during the “Rex is our quarterback year” how great he’d look in some games and horrible in others. Made picking bears games very difficult…

by numbertenox on Nov 6, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What do the Bears need to do to win on Sunday?

Wow 150,000 points in one game, that is just incredibly insulting. I can see 120,000, maybe 130,000 but 150,000 c’mon we are undefeated or didn’t you know?

I predict the Titans to win by 10 points.

I am a humble fan, a great humble fan.

by Joy Kat on Nov 6, 2008 7:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ok, your undefeated

so it will be 90,000-5.

The Titans #1 strength is obviously their defense. What might make the Bears a bit more dangerous than most teams is their ability to score from the two sides of the ball that your defense can do nothing about. It is not uncommon for our D/ST to put up 2 TDs in a game, so even if your D holds us to say 12 points, if the other two areas can tack on 14 we could be in this game late.

I think our D is fixing for a break out game. Cj won’t sneak up on them like he would most. We have seen way to much of AP to be surprised by speed. Not saying he can’t be successful, but I don’t think he is going to just run us off the field. Then again if our D plans on letting you have 23 points in one quarter like we did with Detroit, I don’t think we can come back on the Titans.

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by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The ST for your guys

has been lagging a bit in the past few games as well as the D. The biggest problem being the amount of money invested in that defense and it not paying off. Don’t take this as a slur as it’s not meant that way at all.

Also don’t think the ST thing to heart. Our ST definitely is not our strong point.

The PAIN TRAIN is comin baby!

by BigW on Nov 6, 2008 8:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is not a slur, you are correct

Our ST and D have not been living up to billing, but they still have been doing their share of scoring, so while they may not be stopping teams, they are still creating turnovers and taking them to the house.

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by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been thinking about this game...

And, realistically, I just don’t see how the Bears can eke out a win.

Let’s assume, for a second that turnovers are the difference-maker…

The Titans and the Bears have 13 and 12 interceptions respectively, so that’s a wash, right? Wrong. The Titans don’t throw the ball, and KC doesn’t throw picks (though admittedly he came close twice last week). So who’s gonna force these Bears turnovers? The D-Line? The linebackers? I doubt it. We probably have the best O-line in pro football.

Matt Forte is a great RB with 641 Yards rushing, right? Yeah… not bad, but at 3.8 YPC I’m much less impressed than I am by CJ’s 715 Yards at a 4.9 YPC clip. Even without KVB, and Keith Bulluck playing at less-than-100%, I don’t see the Bears offense being able to move the ball.

The X-factor is Grossman. Or is it? Does anyone really think this inconsistent kid with poor mental discipline is gonna find his groove against one of the best secondaries in the NFL? I certainly don’t.

You give the Bears some respect for home field and a great fan base, and that is helpful, but this matchup is decidely lop-sided.

Vegas line of Titans -3 is free money. Take that to the bank!

by BeansCarter on Nov 6, 2008 11:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

dunno beans

I remember Rex playing like superman in some games. If we get that Rex (and he’s been on the bench awhile, so he may really want to show that Rex) there could be some trouble. I do have infinitely more faith in our secondary than I have in past seasons, though.

How are the bears doing on forced fumbles this year? Titans haven’t been fumbling a lot, but as far as us turning over the ball we might have to worry more about that then Kerry throwing picks.

I like the Titans to win this one, but close – I like the Vegas line. Titans by 3.

by numbertenox on Nov 6, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I can make this statement and leave it at that

but you know better than to just look at one stat. You’d need to give much more data than just YPC.

I am making these numbers up, but let’s say Forte averages the 3.8 and he actually runs that amount. CJ could just as easily have a 50 yard run and then a bunch of 1 yard runs. Obviously, not the case, but you get my drift. You also have to look at the teams they have played. You have to look at what the other team was trying to do against them.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you are right...

there are many more considerations, but i think the mismatch is too great. We are 7-0 ATS and 8-0 SU this season. Oddsmakers have been underestimating us all year.

I respect the Bears, but I just don’t see how they win. Forte is a very good running back, no question. But we did just fine against Adrian Peterson, so I imagine we’ll do just fine against Forte.

I’ll keep the analysis simple, because at the end of the day “that’s why they play the game.” Up to your Bears to shut me up now.

by BeansCarter on Nov 6, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vegas

You would be amazed how right vegas is on the lines. Bear fan hear and wishing you good luck on what should be a good game. Couple of items about the above post, one I think one of the main reasons that Forte’s YPC has been on the lower side before last week is that teams were stacking the line on us. In turn we have been able to take advantage in the air which has helped us to the 4th most points scored in the NFL with Orton playinf spectacular over the last 4 weeks. Our Run defense has been quite good and I would expect our gameplan will bet to stuff the run all day long with many run blitzes and allow our corners to play a bit more man to man on the outside and to make Collins beat us. I am afraid of the pressure your team is going to put on our Offensive line however and I think tha will be the deciding factor in a close loss for us. Our key, as WCG stated will be to have our Defense and Spec teasm step up and have a big day which I am also expecting as they are due. A couple of scores there could get us over the top. I predict another 16-13 victory for you but will hope my bears can pull one out.

Good Luck!

by tfrabotta on Nov 6, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed except I am not betting money on it.

IT sounds like you are Beans. I hope it works out for you. I have confidence that the Titans can win but there are a lot of things that can change to skew it either way. For example the weather,. The weather is going to be cold on Sunday, the Titans are not used to that. Cold hands lead to turnovers.
 I really feel good about it and I am picking the Titans but not bold enough to risk more than that.

I am a humble fan, a great humble fan.

by Joy Kat on Nov 6, 2008 11:48 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Earl Bennett: What's going on?

I must admit, I don’t pay much attention to the Bears on a regular basis, but rookie WR Earl Bennett played at Vanderbilt here in the Titans’ backyard, and many of us here were huge fans of his in college and wanted to see him get drafted by the Titans.

He wasn’t the fastest guy in college, but he had hands like glue, and ultimately became the all-time receptions leader in SEC history in only 3 seasons.

However, NFL.com shows he has only seen action in 4 games so far and hasn’t actually caught any passes yet.

So what’s going on with him? Is he still learning the playbook and sitting while veterans play, or is he struggling, or what?

by hartley on Nov 6, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Firstly, rarely

do rookie WRs make a big splash, so maybe next year.

The biggest reason is because the Bears were entering the season with the biggest cluster f*** of a receiving corp. No one has specifically broken out, though Brandon Lloyd was aiming that way until he got hurt. Another factor is the Bears use a steady diet of the 2 TE sets and use their 3rd TE a lot for blocking, so it limits the amount of other receivers we can get on the field or keep active. The Bears have solid production from Lloyd, Hester, Davis, Booker, Clark and Olsen, so in the long run he is young and there currently isn’t a spot for him, but I’m sure he’ll get his opportunity.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Left Guard

How is new starter at Left Guard Josh Beekman grading out so far this season?

by TitanRob on Nov 6, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He started out

slowly with some penalties. But he has played better of late and did a very nice job in the second half of the detroit game last weekend. Hopefully he continues progressing week after week.

by tfrabotta on Nov 6, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears line as a whole

is barely a C this year, so it is hard to really judge how well he plays when the whole line is playing poorly. He is also lined up next to our weakest link, John St. Clair, so how much is on him versus a result of St. Clair’s play is still a question.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 6, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

asasg

How do the Bears expect to win a game where the Titans are better on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball (i think 99% of people would say that is a fair assessment)?

AF4H

by TitanFreakinKnoxville on Nov 6, 2008 4:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good Question

and there is no straight answer. On the offensive line we just have to play better. We have had some good games. They played well against Philly who brings the yard every play. I would expect a lot of short throws to Forte, Olsen or Clark as a means of trying to lessen the pass rush. If Grossman gets rid of the ball quickly, the rush would be lessened.

On the other side you know as well as I do there are a number of ways to get pressure. Our line has been inconsistent, but there is a ton of talent on that line and if they get so motivated they can get after you.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NFL = parity

I think the game will be close because the titans do not have an explosive offense and the Bears special teams will give the bears advantages in field position. If they can make the titans travel 80 yards for scores and if our return game can shorten the field, it will help our offense immensley which I think will struggle for most of the game. Plus as I said, I don’t think the bears will fear the passing game ( Collins/WR) and our lb’s potentially can cover your TE’s/ rbs. But I am not sure how we are going to move the football that well on offense.

by tfrabotta on Nov 7, 2008 8:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That really is the Catch 20 with the Bears

You can move the ball on them, but the more you keep the Bears D on the field the more chances you give them to get the turnover and they are better than any other team about scoring on defense over the last 5 years.

Due to injury the Bears have a lot of CBs with experience. I’m not familiar with your WRs, but we are pretty solid at CB, so we should be able to hang there. Your LBs are really good, but we have too much there for any team to completely cover. Clark and Olsen are both capable of going deep and there are not many LBs that can cover that far back, so I’d expect you to see a lot of them and Forte in the passing game. Olsen should be counted as an extra receiver.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

our WRS

for the most part aren’t worth knowing about

by hal41605 on Nov 7, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

question

why did you not warn us before getting justin gage

by Michaeltastic on Nov 6, 2008 5:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I sent out a league wide message about him

if nobody listened I cannot be held accountable.

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by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rookie running backs

who’s better-forte or johnson

by thawardasa on Nov 6, 2008 5:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Again

I don’t know if you can compare. I feel I am fairly safe in saying Forte is the more complete back from a rush, receiving, blocking stand point. The Bears rely on Forte to do more than the Titans do with CJ.

Forte is a more north-south rusher, while CJ is a burner who is outstanding at finding the edges. He also has big Lendale to hammer the line, so that always helps.

In the end I don’t think we really need to compare too much. They are both great young backs.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 8:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I expect a good game

Really the Bears could be 7-1 or 8-0 at this point. I know that game against Atlanta was nip/tuck, as was the Tampa Bay game. What do you expect out of offense with Rex in charge on Sunday. (Great blog by the way)

It's never just a game when you're winning. - George Carlin

by DennardC on Nov 6, 2008 5:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the compliment

I don’t expect much difference. I do not expect you will get to see the Bad Rex. He might make an ill-advised throw more than Orton, but they have been working with him a lot of taking what the defense gives him.

The plus side is he is a better deep ball thrower than Orton, so we may take a few more shots down field than usual.

I do not expect the Bears to change their offense at all, at least at the start of the game.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rex was brutal last weekend.

According to at least one expert who studied it…

 

Posted: Friday November 7, 2008 1:06PM; Updated: Friday November 7, 2008 1:14PM
 Adam Duerson INSIDE THE NFL
 
Game Of The Week: Titans at Bears

LenDale White has found the end zone 10 times this season, tops in the NFL.

Greg Nelson/SI

Breaking down Sunday’s Tennessee Titans at Chicago Bears game (1 p.m., Eastern, CBS) …

Four Things You Should Care About
1. Chicago’s quarterback situation will be the key. Bears coach Lovie Smith is calling it “wait-and-see,” but I don’t buy it. Some things to consider:

• However good Kyle Orton is feeling, it’s hard to imagine any athlete going from “gone for four weeks,” as sources within Orton’s camp reported last Sunday, to game-ready in less than a week.

• The Bears are 5-3 and a game up on Green Bay in the NFC North. Raise your hand if you expected that. (Put your hand down, Lovie.) Losing one game to the undefeated Titans would hardly mean the end of the world, and risking Orton’s long-term health for a short-term reward could be disastrous. The Bears’ focus should be — and probably is — on getting Orton back for Weeks 11 and 13 against Minnesota and Green Bay, respectively.

• Why show your hand when you don’t have to, especially if that hand is Rex Grossman? Has Bill Belichick taught us nothing? If you’re the Bears, do you really want the Titans to spend all six days leading up to this game licking their chops at the thought of facing Grossman, who has seven interceptions and four fumbles (against just three touchdowns) in his last six complete games? In essence, I’m calling your bluff Lovie, but I like where you’re going with this.

OK, maybe Orton does play. I’ve heard the argument that he wouldn’t be hampered terribly by a bad ankle; that he’s a pocket passer who doesn’t bring much to the table in terms of scrambling anyway. From that point of view, maybe it’s not a bad idea to put Orton in the shotgun and let him pick the Titans apart without moving much.

But that argument inaccurately presumes Orton to be a flat-footed stiff. While he’s no Michael Vick, Orton has had to use his legs plenty this season. Remember, this Bears line was labeled one of the NFL’s worst in the preseason. Orton’s actually right in the middle of the pack when it comes to rushing yards and average.

Want an example? Look no further than the run during which he hurt his ankle last Sunday. On that play Orton evaded two sure tackles deep in the pocket to get back to the line of scrimmage. Earlier in the game he recognized some strong pressure coming up the middle and decisively tiptoed to his left, where he found enough open field for an untouched, five-yard rushing touchdown. He had enough time to wave the football in the pursuing defender’s face on that score, which makes him at least a mediocre runner in my books.

Now, imagine taking away Orton’s legs and placing him in the line of fire of guys like Tennessee’s Albert Haynesworth. In case Smith needs reminding, the Titans are third in the AFC with 22 sacks. Last week, the Packers put Aaron Rodgers (whose scrambling ability is about on par with Orton’s) in the shotgun on the very first play of the game. The result: Jevon Kearse came untouched off the end and planted Rodgers on his butt while a desperate pass attempt got batted down at the line of scrimmage.

Later in the game Rodgers got creamed by stunting defensive end Jacob Ford on a similar play — shotgun; pressure right up the middle — leading to a fumble on the Packers’ 17. The Titans sacked Rodgers three more times and grounded him countless others. Just one of those touches could be enough to end Orton’s day. Worse, it could affect his return a week later against Green Bay.

2. And then there’s Plan B, Rex Grossman. Is there really a Rex Revival? Let us remember that box scores can be deceptive. In leading the Bears back from a 10-point halftime deficit against the Lions last week — and I use “leading” very loosely — Grossman produced two touchdown drives. Afterward, guys like ESPN’s Trent Dilfer and the Chicago Sun-Times’ Matt Bowen leant far too much praise. Here’s what Bowen had to say:

“In my eyes, this is a different quarterback, a backup quarterback who is playing with a chip on his shoulder. …Expect Rex, who already has played meaningful games in this offense, to take the playbook and run with it.”

Clearly Bowen and I saw different games. I re-watched every one of Grossman’s plays at least twice, and here’s how I saw it: Rex is taking the same uncalled for risks and making the same stupid mistakes he always has. Last week he happened to run into a defense against whom it’s excusable to make stupid mistakes. It’ll be a different story against Tennessee.

In 18 attempts Grossman was intercepted just once, but he also threw three other balls that touched the hands of defenders, including one dropped interception on the Bears’ 10. I saw four more throws that shouldn’t have been made given the coverage, including the five-yard touchdown pass to Rashied Davis. On that play Grossman crammed in a perfect laser but probably should have checked off of Davis, who had four defenders within two yards at the time of the catch.

I also saw one poorly executed fade to Devin Hester in the far right corner of the end zone. I point this out because Orton, the preferred starter, has become a master of that pass. And I saw three poorly thrown deep balls, all incomplete, including one directed at Hester, who was in tight double coverage. I point this out because the long ball was once considered Grossman’s strong suit.

It’s not just the stupid throws and the near-interceptions that differentiate Grossman from Orton. Above all on Sunday, I noticed his inability to spread the ball around. Entering Sunday, Orton had completed at least 20 passes to five targets, and that list didn’t include Brandon Lloyd, who was leading the team with 15 grabs when he went down in Week 4. Grossman, on the other hand, threw 18 balls last week and 10 of them went towards Hester or Davis. No one else had more than two Grossman passes in his direction.

I imagine Lovie Smith saw through Grossman’s misleading two-touchdown day and knows better than to put much faith in him against the Titans, who’ve picked off 13 passes this year. Just to give you an idea of their ball-hawking skills, that projects to 26 on the season, which would tie for 11th-most of any team this decade.

If Orton can’t go, I expect a steady diet of Matt Forte, who was the real hero against Detroit last week. In the Bears’ two second-half scoring drives in that game the rookie accounted for 60 of the offense’s 103 yards. He finished the half with 101 yards on the ground while Grossman had 59 in the air.

Still, it’ll be tough running against a monstrous Titans front so I expect that when Grossman does throw he’ll be aiming deep. In Hester, Grossman has a burner who can run under his deep heaves, much like Bernard Berrian did in 2006. At the very least, he should stretch the defense out a bit.

3. So how worried should Chicago be about these undefeated Titans? Grossman and Orton should be pee-your-pants scared. Whoever goes under center has a long day ahead of him. But what about Tennessee’s offense?

Kerry Collins averages a mere 167 yards per game and still hasn’t posted a multi-touchdown game. No Titans wide receiver has more than 19 catches, and only two of them have touchdowns — one each. All of that has put a ton of pressure on LenDale White and rookie Chris Johnson. Clearly, they’ve handled it remarkably, but against whom? The Titans averaged 178 rushing yards in six games against defenses that currently rank 20th or worse against the run. But facing the Ravens and Vikings, who rank first and second against the run, they went 61.5 yards per game. That’s some difference.

Looking at the bigger picture, Tennessee has gone undefeated against eight teams with a combined record of 25-40. The only opponent among those with a winning record is 5-3 Baltimore, and the Ravens were in a position to win in Week 5 when Joe Flacco threw a late interception.

4. Let’s concede that the Titans’ running game is legit. How will their backs fare against the Bears’ sixth-ranked run defense? In the last five years I can only recall one team that looked as primed as the Titans do to exploit the Bears’ defensive weakness, which I see as its interior. That team was the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers. In that game the eventual Super Bowl champs rushed 46 times — versus 20 passes — and gouged Chicago for 190 yards plus two touchdowns using a two-prong attack: Jerome Bettis up the middle (101 yards) and Willie Parker on the edges (68 yards). Since 2005 only the Vikings (‘07) have hit the Bears with more running yards. (As an aside: Bears fans will remember that game as Orton’s last start before a year-and-a-half long experiment with Grossman.)

My comparison goes beyond the Steelers’ and Titans’ similar thunder-and-lightning assaults. On that afternoon Pittsburgh’s Heinz Field was snow-swept, leaving very little footing for the Bears’ mushers. Early reports call for cold rain or snow Sunday in Chicago. That should be compounded by Soldier Field’s turf, which is looking about as beat-up as ever.

Last week the grass was coming up in chunks and contributed to a missed extra point, a Dan Orlovsky sack, a dropped Greg Olsen touchdown (he was only open because the defender slipped) and had plenty to do with Matt Forte’s bountiful afternoon. On days like this, knowing the snap count can be enough to give a lineman the upper hand. Once a defender is engaged it’s tough for him to plant and fight out of it, which is why you see linemen and linebackers getting driven far into the defensive backfield.

Here’s where I’d like to see Jeff Fisher adapt. So far I’ve seen Tennessee’s biggest gains to the outside on off-tackle runs, screens and swing passes. Up the middle they average just 3.2 yards per carry, which is 20th in the NFL. But given these conditions — the weather, the field and Chicago’s interior vulnerability — I’d like to see the focus shift between the tackles. If Fisher does that, I see big gains for the Titans.

Inside The Scouting Report
Every week, we ask an NFL assistant with relevant game experience to provide an anonymous scouting report on our Game of the Week. Here’s what one assistant from a 2008 Titans opponent had to say about game-planning the league’s seventh-ranked defense:

"They’re stout up front, with Haynesworth, and [Kyle] Vanden Bosch, and because of their front it helps the back end. Haynesworth is a big man and he plays hard. A lot of times there are big guys who might give a good burst every three plays. But he’s playing hard all the time. He’s tough for guards to handle, or a center to handle by himself. And Vanden Bosch’s tenacity is unbelievable. He doesn’t take one play off. He spins, he crawls on the ground, he’s all over the place. He may get knocked down inside but he comes out on the other side and still rushes the quarterback. He’s like a Tasmanian Devil in there.

“That helps their rush defense, but it helps their pass defense as much as anything. When you’re getting pressure with a four-man rush, opponents start doing things to add people in protection to help with Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch, which is taking one extra guy out of your passing routes. You add more people to block, then you’re putting fewer guys out on the routes to have success. Against us the ends were an issue, so we had to put some extra help on both sides.”

The Pick
Three separate picks. If Orton comes back healthy I like Chicago, 24-17. Orton has a true breakout game and the Bears’ defense, which has been banged up of late, finally shows up. But that seems the least likely scenario. If Orton plays hurt and is immobile, I take Tennessee, 24-10, with the extra points coming from sacks turned into fumbles turned into great field position for the Titans. You just can’t give Johnson and White a short field, especially in the field conditions I described. And if Rex the Wonder Dog comes out of the tunnel with the first team offense, my call is Titans 34, Bears 6. I’ll set the over-under for “Tennessee sacks plus Grossman turnovers” in this last scenario at 12, even if Vanden Bosch ends up missing the game with an injury.

  
 

  
 
  
 

  
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by BeansCarter on Nov 7, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

guy obviously doesn't know

what he is talking about and is another “rex hater”. Although not a big fan of him anymore he did play well at the end of the year last year until injured. The middle of the bears "soft? Not sure where he gets that from. Our def tackle rotation is excellent with Harris (who seems to be playing much better-maybe getting healthy), Dvoracek, Harrison, and Idonije. Urlacher and Briggs soft?? Wow..Were hoping hillenmeyer doesn’t play and that Ogunleye gets back to doing what he does as he has been an underperformer. The field position game is one of the bears strengths with their return game so I don’t understand his comment. I still don’t like the bears to win this game but it will be close. 34-6?? we should thank him for the bulletin board material..

by tfrabotta on Nov 8, 2008 8:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I for one

hope he does not play. I think he is at the end of the line physically. Mentally he is a leader out there but he is constantly out of position and late for the ball. It is a black hole for other teams. Our corners are very good but our safeties are out of position more than they should be. Collins slow delivery will help us in this area.

by tfrabotta on Nov 7, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He likely will not go

our secondary has been in a state of injury for the last 3 years, so we have a lot of guys with game experience, so it won’t be devastating.

You can tell he is not the same player. Maybe he is just rusty from being hurt for 3 years, but he is noticeably slower and lost at times. He played much better versus Detroit, so maybe he is getting back into the swing of things.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Nov 7, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He did

have a much better performance against detroit I will admit. But he was way overdue..

by tfrabotta on Nov 7, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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