Titans 19 Packers 16: Redemption Thy Name is Bironas
by Jimmy on Nov 3, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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August called it Vintage Fisherball this morning. I couldn't have said it better myself. We have gotten spoiled this season with the Titans blowing out most of their opponents, and I had forgotten just how stressful that type of game can be.
Did anyone think there was anyway Rob Bironas was going to miss that second kick? I know I didn't, and neither did Craig Hentrich:
"The good thing about Rob is that his ADD is so bad he doesn't remember the last kick," joked Titans punter Craig Hentrich, who doubles as the holder on placekicks. "He's got a great temperament for a kicker. He never lets things bother him."
Someone asked yesterday in the open game thread, which was awesome again by the way, if that was the first money kick that Bironas had missed for the Titans. Off the top of my head the only miss I can remember that would have won a game was in 2006 against Baltimore, but in fairness to Bironas, that kick was basically blocked in the backfield. It cannot be overstated how important it is to have a kicker as money as Bironas for Fisher's style of football. We will probably see a lot more of these games come down to a field goal in the coming weeks.
I am still a little blown away that Kerry Collins threw the ball 37 times yesterday. The Packers have one of the best defensive backfields in the NFL. Combine that with the worst receiving core in the NFL, and it provides a 18 of 37 for 180 yard effort. Collins played poorly yesterday. There is no way around that. Sure the Packers secondary is good, but he was off the mark consistently and had a couple of passes that really should have been picked off. There was a lot of talk about putting in Vince Young in the game thread. I joked about it, but it would have absolutely been the wrong move. You have told Collins that this is his team, and you don't pull him for one bad effort. That being said, he is going to have to be better than that for the Titans to continue to win games.
Chris Johnson contiues to be one of the most exciting players in the NFL. It is just fun to watch him with the ball in his hands. He didn't have his most successful game on the ground yesterday, 24 carries for 89 yards, but he had his best day as a receiver with 6 catches for 72 yards. What a great pick by the front office.
It is time for some changes to be made a wide receiver. Justin Gage just isn't getting it done and Brandon Jones is. The starting receivers for now should be Justin McCareins and Jones. Lavelle Hawkins will eventually replace McCareins, but for now all reports are still that The Hawk hasn't completely grasped the offense. Dinger will not give him any more PT than he is getting now until he is confident that Hawk will be in the right place 100% of the time.
The defense gave some stuff up yesterday, but they were able to hold the Packers offense, which is hands down the best offense they have faced all season, to just one touchdown. Aaron Rodgers is going to be a star. He is the perfect quarterback for that west coast system because is mobile enough to buy himself time and very accurate. Rodgers to Greg Jennings is going to be a deadly combination for the next few years assuming the Packers lock Jennings up.
Cortland Finnegan spent a lot of time matched up on Jennings and did a good job for the most part. He wasn't able to bring him down on the 52 yard reception but made an outstanding play on a deep ball later in the game when he was in single coverage. Jennings wanted a pass interference call, but it looked like really good coverage to me. It was nothing like the mugging of Bo Scaife in the end zone where there was no flag.
It was nice to see Jacob Ford step up yesterday. The injury to Kyle Vanden Bosch is obviously a lot more serious than the Titans have let on so the back-ups are going to have to step up. Ford did that yesterday with 2 sacks and a forced fumble. Keep in mind that he is basically a rookie after missing the entire 2007 season with an injury. Watch for him to continue to get better as this season goes on.
8-0 is pretty sweet. The Titans may not be the best team in the league, I think they have to be in the discussion, but they are the most consistent team in the league. That is saying something right there. Onward to Chicago.
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Was anyone else listening to Titans Talkback after the game last night?
It is absolutely hilarious. “I know we are 8-0, but I am sick of Fisherball!”
“That was Kerry’s bad game, Fisher said he would play Kerry until he had a bad game and then he would start Vince again.”
The “fans” that call that show kill me.
I hate Music City Miracles!
Oh, and the "bench Nick Harper" call was great, too.
If you live in middle tennessee and you don’t listen to it, you should. It’s Mark Howard, Kevin Dyson and Blaine Bishop just taking calls. And people who call those things are mouth-breathers. Almost my favorite part of gameday.
I hate Music City Miracles!
bench harper?
shiiiiiiiiiiit these people don’t remember the deron jenkins era??? or lamont thompson? the titans secondary hasn’t been this good since the super bowl year.
It was funny dude
The guy actually said that Nick Harper sucked cause he got burnt on one play.
Kevin Dyson stood up for him pretty convincingly though. There were some really funny calls.
I hate Music City Miracles!
The part of that show that cracks me up is when Mark
Howard yells at people and basically tells them that they are idiots.
I like Mark a lot
He really rips people to shreds. Frank and Kevin get on to him on the morning show for it but people generally deserve it. If you’re an idiot then don’t put yourself out there. You’re just begging for it if you do. heh
The PAIN TRAIN is comin baby!
Good Game, Guys
I feel like the Packers deserved to win, but all that really matters is that you did. Our defense became suddenly porous for the last 2 drives after being great previously. We musta dropped 2 or 3 sure picks, which was totally our fault. I hated McCarthy’s play call on 3rd and 10 on your 45 (screen pass for 2 yards) as well as his subsequent decision to not go for it on 4th and 8 with 2 minutes left. I do object to one thing you said:
“…made an outstanding play on a deep ball later in the game when he was in single coverage. Jennings wanted a pass interference call, but it looked like really good coverage to me. It was nothing like the mugging of Bo Scaife in the end zone where there was no flag.”
Sure, Chillar mugged Scaife in the end zone, but you guys got a field goal out of that drive anyways. Also, I think the ball that was thrown to Scaife was uncatchable and the hit occurred after the ball had passed.
Finnegan CLEARLY committed pass interference on Jennings on that pass. If you look at the replay, he wraps his arms around Jennings’ arms, and prevents him from catching the ball. That gives us the ball in the red zone, with 3 minutes left. That’s where the game turned. Kevin Seifert agrees, by the way:
"The situation: Score is tied at 16. It’s second-and-four at the Packers’ 35-yard line with 3:31 remaining. Rodgers spots receiver Greg Jennings streaking toward the post with a step on Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan.
The ball slips through Jennings’ hands amid heavy contact from Finnegan. Officials don’t call pass interference, leading Jennings into a high-energy protest that will probably draw a second look from the NFL office this week.
Worse-case scenario, the Packers would have gained control inside the red zone with a chance to take a lead — either with little time remaining or having stripped the Titans of their timeouts. Instead, the Packers’ drive stalled at the Titans’ 45-yard line.
Jennings left little doubt about his opinion of the non-call — “Did it look like I thought it was pass interference?” he said — but appropriately refused to pin the loss on it."
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-6-17/Packers—Woodson—-Not-good-enough-.html
Congratulations on your win.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
Jennings isn't the type to whine to the refs, either. He clearly was interfered with.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
The ball to Scaife uncatchable?
Come on.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
It was over his head by a considerable distance...
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
Dude, you just lost every bit of credibility when you said that Scaife was not interfered with, but Jennings was. 0 credibility.
I hate Music City Miracles!
Somebody tell me that ball touched Scaife's fingers. I was at the game so the only replay I have seen was on the jumbotron.
I hate Music City Miracles!
You weren't reading carefully...
He was interfered with. There is no doubt about that. I mean, Chillar shoved him. However, that interference didn’t matter (I think) because the ball was uncatchable.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
not at all
you won the game. chillar did shove scaife.
you just read what you want to read and grate on people with your combative and defensive personalities until they seem like the aggressors.
and that’s obnoxious.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
I don't know if you are talking about me
but I just disagreed with one of your points. I did not combat you in any way.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
I was generalizing, perhaps unfairly
Didn’ t mean you. It’s really gramsey I have issues with.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
Nice compliment sandwich.
Good win!
Refs screwed us!
Congratulations!
Weak. NEXT!
The PAIN TRAIN is comin baby!
No kidding. Another nice problem to have. Opposing fans whining about officiaiting after they play us.
I hate Music City Miracles!
BBS is obnoxious
But I can kind of see where he’s coming from. Jesus Christ, you guys are so unbelievably defensive and hostile. I congratulate you (something BBS never did,) and make a valid point (with support.) In response, I get ridiculed, insulted and shat on.
I even said: “all that really matters is that you won”
I mean, do you even hear yourselves speak?
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
I think the Finnegan play
could have easily been called pass interference. But please, don’t say that is why you lost the game. The phantom horse-collar call against Kearse on that 3rd down was ridiculous. You guys ended up getting your lone touchdown on that play. Even the row of 8 die hard Packers fans sitting behind me yesterday agreed. There were noncalls for both sides yesterday. We were the team that kept our heads in the game and kept playing so we won.
by Michaeltastic on Nov 3, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Why do you come on here
and tell us that if the refs had done their jobs, the packers would have won, then offer us a disingenuous congratulatory remark?
If you felt like poor officiating cost you the game, there is no way that you are being sincere. So save it. You’re entitled to your opinion, just don’t bullshit us.
I am 100% with gramsey on this one.
The reason I ripped back is it was a faux congratulations
Basically you said to us congrats on getting calls to fall our way. Maybe it’s jes cuz we poor cuntry hillbillies……… but where I’m from that’s called a sore loser.
The PAIN TRAIN is comin baby!
If this were Seinfeld.......
it would be probably be called “nongratulations”.
I miss that show.
Big Bill "You never lose a game if the opponent doesn't score." Darell K. Royal
by Hook em Titans on Nov 3, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
not at all
you won the game. chillar did shove scaife.
you just read what you want to read and grate on people with your combative and defensive personalities until they seem like the aggressors.
and that’s obnoxious.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
You know what's obnoxious?
Opposing fans who come on our site and say “Congratulations! You won the game! But you won the game because our best receiver could not catch a pass because of good defense by your best corner that was OBVIOUSLY pass interference because our receiver got up and whined to the official about it. If he had caught that ball, we would have had great field position!”
That is exactly what you said. Now go away—I noticed you didn’t post this crap on the Packer blog because you know you are whining and you know that they would get onto you for being a sore loser.
and that’s obnoxious.
and I’m being combative.
Go away.
I hate Music City Miracles!
Take what this man says with a grain of salt
He hates this blog!
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Why would I post this on APC..
if my issue is with you? Feel free to rant all you want. Just know that the manner in which you do so if offensive. I’m a perfectly amicable Packers fan, (which you might have found out)…and will go on my way.
Enjoy your litle Titans community…and I hope you’re nicer to upcoming opponents.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.
I really expected a close game and that is what it was
It is tough to get yards on the Packers secondary. That is no excuse for KC not hooking up with his receiver’s more often though. The deep passes were miserably off. The short passes were errant quite often. Brandon Jones made a spectacular catch that Terrel Owens would applaud.
Last week against the Colts the performance was much better, I would say his best performance this year. So why the drop off? I can’t figure it out. Did the Pack attack disrupt his timing or what? I don’t know. I was glad to see him pull it together towards the end and connect consistently enough to set up the two field goal attempts. I would expect that Collins will play better against the Bears, we shall see. If not, I am grudgingly willing to look at someone else. There I said it. That was painful for me. (tear streaming down face)
I am a humble fan, a great humble fan.
This might be the last night of the world
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
packers
probably had a lot to do with it. stay cool ;-). there’s no tears in football unless you’re brett favre.
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