Senior Simms, CBS lead team to finally visit Nashville
A significant note about CBS' broadcast Sunday of the Jets-Titans game at LP Field:
Jim Nantz and Phil Simms have never -- that's correct, never -- called a game in Nashville before, a fact that strikes me as bizarre and should be Exhibit A in any argument about how the networks cater to big market teams.
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August West
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Someone in the comments on the article is bitching about Kuharsky’s “Titans bias” and claims that Indy is a smaller market.
Um, no: (all stats from Wikipedia, for whatever that’s worth)
Indy, 2007:
- City 795,458
- Metro 2,014,267
Nashville, 2007:
- City 619,626
- Metro 1,521,437
And if you only count the “city” stat and not the metro area stat, Nashville, unlike Indy, isn’t even the biggest city in its state.
This post brought to you by boredom at work.
by hartley on Nov 18, 2008 10:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually astonished that Metro Nashville is over 2 million now...
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Nov 18, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not.
The metro population includes the city population.
by hartley on Nov 18, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's more like it
thanks for the correction
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Nov 18, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
phil simms sucks
his son is a chump too.
by hal41605 on Nov 18, 2008 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
While I agree with Kuharsky's point about market size
I don’t think this proves it.
Nantz and Simms have only been together since 2004. A quick look at the Titans since then:
2004: 5-11. Makes sense they wouldn’t visit
2005: 4-12. Again, this makes sense.
2006: 8-8. Winning a lot at the end of the year, Week 15 against Jaguars is the only week where they could have come, but didn’t. I’m guessing they went to 7-6 KC @ 11-2 SD. I wouldn’t consider either city a “big market”.
2007: 10-6. Week 14 looked good, hosting SD. However, PIT@NE was where they went. This wasn’t because of market size. Also, Week 10 vs. JAC, with 6-2 vs. 5-3. was another good possibility. I think they went to CLE@PIT, which was also 6-2 vs. 5-3. I really think this is the best opportunity for them to come, but they went to Pittsburgh. You could get a little upset about this one.
As far as this season, the two best home games on paper (IND, GB) were both not broadcast by CBS. I’m going to assume they’ll be back in Nashville in Week 16, against the Steelers.
by mgrex03 on Nov 18, 2008 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where in the word are you getting their broadcast lists?
It’s still a little shocking that the lead announcing team for the station that carries the AFC hasn’t made it to all 16 cities for very good games over the course of 60+ games?
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Nov 18, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking at the schedule
CBS can broadcast, at most, 6 games a year in Nashville. There are 2 games against the NFC, which will be broadcast on either Fox, or SNF/MNF. That doesn’t include a game against an AFC team on SNF/MNF (like the Colts this year).
Therefore, there has only been 6 * 4 years + only 2 this season so far = 26 at most.
All I did was look at the meaningful home games the Titans have had since 2004, where it looked like they could be there. I found 3 instances, and gave reasons why Nantz/Simms did not go there.
If you can find me a week where they should have been there, please point it out. I might have missed one. But it is no where near 60+ opportunities for them to come to Nashville.
And without looking, I bet they haven’t been to Oakland, Cleveland, or Houston before either. And there is a decent chance they’ve never been in Buffalo or Miami.
Their job is to broadcast the most appealing game on CBS’s schedule, not to hit every stadium.
by mgrex03 on Nov 18, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post.
I’m sure you’re right on.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on Nov 18, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The 60+ games number was a reference to how many they've called during the regular season in the last 4+ years...
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Nov 18, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not how many Titans games they'd have the opportunity to call.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Networks definitly cater to big market teams, but I would too.
It’s simple numbers. Large market teams have more viewers so that means a larger percentage of your viewing (or listening) audience is keyed in to those teams.
The Colts get more airtime than the Titans, but I think their success in recent years has meant that they have more fans outside of Indy. Same with teams like Green Bay who have small markets but large fan bases.
When you add in the fact that we aren’t a high scoring/cream puff offense, which is what most fans find entertaining these days; it’s not surprising that we don’t get much media love.
by theologic on Nov 18, 2008 11:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
And if you can’t have a big home market, then you need to have some kind of national personality that makes the game appealing to otherwise disinterested fans. Favre or Manning or somebody like that. For TN, that person WAS VY, but this year it’s been a lot tougher to find somebody to act as the face of the franchise. I find it interesting that the national media has decided to make Jeff Fisher the de facto star of the team. But given all of the factors going forward, that looks like a good bet. Because the other guys who could be big TN stars are all looking at FA next year: Bullock, Big Al, even KC. Which leaves you with talented by larely unheralded guys like Finnegan and Crazy Legs, and while it’s true that those guys MIGHT become stars, right now, the only actual star on the entire team is really the team’s coach.
Consider this: Kevin Mawae—the Center—is probably more famous right now than Chris Johnson, and that’s only because Mawae played for the Jets for so many years. Seriously, name one other Center in the entire league besides Jeff Saturday. It’s crazy to have your center be among your top five “stars.”
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on Nov 18, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which reminded me...
the team that announced the last game against the Jags. They are the worst. I had to stop watching and listen to the radio instead.
Who are they anyway?
Go Titans!
by Pinoy Titan on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I do that every game. My wife gets hostile when they say stupid things.
Usually only takes about 2 minutes of the TeeVee announcers before she says, “Can’t we listen to Mike and Frankie?”
by DZone on Nov 18, 2008 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the big market topic. On ESPN radio today,
Mike Tirico was talking to Mortinson and said (roughly), “If you pick up the two franchises and swap the cities they’re in everybody would be talking about the Titans and nobody would be talking about the Giants.” This is big coming from Tirico who couldn’t bring himself to say that the Titans might win their division when we were 5 and 0.
by DZone on Nov 18, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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