…burn

A lot.

How many have I dealt with that way?

1

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

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I guess the problem is with the question you’re asking. When deciding whether to delete someone else’s words, you shouldn’t be asking some subjective nonsense about “meaningful contributions” but rather whether someone’s work so exceeds the bounds of decency to require deleting. The people you may not think are “meaningful” in their “contributions” are the people this network is designed to encourage. Do I think the posts above are great? No, but they are the work product we’re supposed to produce, and in so far as that is true they are “meaningful contributions.” Why should we even have websites designed to produce comments if we’re… deleting comments?

This is not an “out of line” issue. I don’t think you are “out of line” for deleting comments (out of what line?) I just think it’s a stupid policy to delete posts that don’t violate one of the things from on high that are deemed unnecessary, which typically is restricted to things like racism. I go to your site and see King Richard calling people “retards” and it strikes me as ABSOLUTELY INSANE that you’re deleting merely gloating comments but not someone making fun of the mentally handicapped? We have writers on this network who have gotten in trouble for that. Never has a writer gotten in trouble for gloating.

Once YOU get in the business of determining what subjectively meaningless posts you aren’t going to allow on your site, you put me, Jimmy, and all our readers at a HUGE disadvantage. It’s difficult enough trying to manage a network of hundreds of sports blogs without readers having to worry about their posts getting deleted because you don’t like it when your team loses and has to hear about it. The bottom line is that any policy regarding banning comments should emphasize RESTRAINT by the people exercising that power, especially against the very people doing the very things Stampede Blue and every other SB Nation website is designed to promote, in determining what constitutes appropriate and inappropriate content.

You want to delete profanity, racism, etc. fine those are all bright line rules that are easy to follow (though excepting racism, all of them probably earn the commenter a warning first, yea?). What bright line rule have you created here? Don’t “post something that has no merit other than to instigate and rub salt into other fans wounds”? Well obviously a lot of people disagree with your assesment of that. Worse still, do we really want to be the Sports Blog Network of over-sensitive hosts who ban people or delete their content for hurting our mere feewings? Is that going to make us a larger network? Is that going to encourage people to engage in constructive discussions about sports, really?

As people with 1) common goal of growing a blogging network who 2) have the ability to delete the hard work of the people who make us grow, we have shared goals and responsibilities. And when you unilaterally take it upon yourself to do damage to potential readers and contributors to the network, you better do so when you’re on surer moral highground than the nonsense demonstrated in this thread. If you honestly deleted or would delete the things you quoted above, you are wrong for doing so. If you did that to one of my readers, someone who had contributed 300 comments to my website, you and I wouldn’t be having the discussion, I’d be having it first with Brad, then with the person above him, then with the person above him, and so on up the line. Perhaps there is a long overdue discussion among the SB Nation bloggers about the responsibilities and duties we owe to each other in Re: other people’s readers. The kind of thing you’ve deleted, especially given the circumstances, I very much doubt will carry the day if that’s the manner the discussion is framed.

If you delete what one of MY readers writes and it is of similar content to that posted above, we’re going to have a problem. I am going to get it fixed either by Brad or someone else who will get it fixed, and barring that I’ll simply decide that if my readers can’t get treated fairly by your website, you can expect the same from me and it will be BAN BAN BAN BAN shake n bake and King Richard etc. Some of the people at your site I would LOVE to take the initiative of simply banning from ever posting at my site right now, because I have subjectively decided that they (and others, at other websites) have nothing “meaningful” to contribute to HH. But out of respect for the fellow bloggers on the network, out of an understanding for what it is we are trying to do here, I don’t do that.

Restraint is the word of the day. Deleting comments is the last resort, not the first.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Hey BBS…

Are the Texans still about as good as the Titans?

Lol. Enjoy the cellar, chumps.

BBS actually said we were about as good as the Texans, you want to see his post? I doubt he believes this, considering a) we haven’t lost to them in years, b) they have never had a winning season, and c) they were winless when he posted that inflammatory statement. BBS simply took the opportunity to take a dig at Titans fans knowing this would piss them off.

If someone from your site goes out of their way to call us a sh*tty team when the facts clearly prove otherwise, I am not gonna let the facts speak for themselves alone, you will get called out and taunted when you are proven wrong. That’s a rivalry. And that’s what being a passionate fan is about.

As for…

hey tehGrindCrusher

How does it feel to be winless? Still looking forward to the playoffs?

haha

Well that was a fun one… In fact, I think this following post may have inspired my particular delight in seeing his team lose (http://www.battleredblog.com/2008/9/7/609319/opening-game-day-thread-th#)

Hey you

Shut the fuck up.

And don’t get started on arrogance.

I didn’t really enjoy being told to shut the fuck up; in fact I enjoyed it so little, I went out of my way to highlight a time where the Titans were winning and the Texans were losing. As a side note, it’s interesting how reliably that happens…

And lastly, your final quote was inspired by yet another inflammatory post by BBS. I’ll let you readers decide if my post was “too much”…

Too bad you won all those division titles…

Only to mostly choke in the playoffs. That must be frustrating as a fan, to have dominated the division and to have laid so many eggs in the playoffs.

Your days are over. Time to start enjoying the memories. Can’t wait to pound you senseless on MNF.

In any case, give it up on VY – nobody cares, and on another note, we’ve basically been raping the Texans for years. Show us the respect we deserve, we are much better than them.

That was posted IMMEDIATELY following a post where BBS insulted me directly.

LOL

Gotta love someone who tastes a little victory, and gets cocky as a result of it.

Newsflash ace, our team has started 4-0 for three straight years. When your team wins a Super Bowl, and 5 straight AFC South titles, call me. Until then, kindly leave the lecturing somewhere else. All it does is make you look like an even bigger ass than you do at MCM, if that is possible.

So, who wants to call it? Titans lose the AFC South lead to the Colts when? Week 15? Week 16? Or the last regular season game of the year, Week 17?

BTW, Vince Toung still sucks, Beans.

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by BigBlueShoe on Sep 29, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shake’n’bake, you don’t have to like me, and you don’t even have to agree with anything I say, but if you can’t see the subjectivity involved in establishing who the “instigator” is, you’re missing the point in a massive way. Is this really your way of ruling over your little patch of internet real estate? Are you intoxicated and corrupted by what little power you’ve been granted? You think you magnanimously gave me chances to not simply poke fun at people? I think you can see by the response of other bloggers here that what you are doing is counter-productive.

My perspective on the situation is that I like to post about football; but when someone goes on the offensive with me I’ll dig in my heels and strike back. I am respectful of people and ideas unless they involve personal attacks and/or outright lies. I disagree with posters on MCM and elsewhere, but until i am provoked, I always treat them them with respect and dignity. The same cannot be said of BBS, King Richard, tehgrindcrusher, and coltsfanawalt.

When your Colts, after dominating the Division for 5 years finally lose grip and we reclaim what Titans fans have wanted since 2002 (i.e. the AFC South), you’re damn right I’m gonna go and rub it in the nose of some guy who goes out of his way to insult me. To those Colts fans who don’t act like the people I have listed above, I say tough luck, and better luck next year… and I mean it, in a collegial way, not as an expression of schadenfreude.

I don’t doubt for a second that the Colts playing so poorly this year pisses you off either, shake, but that’s the life of a fan whose team is not winning.

You can’t really expect people to be above that when you have BBS running the site the way he does. In fact, that is exactly what he wants.