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Tennessee Titans Morning Links: H-Words and F-Words Edition

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Keith Bulluck misses Brian Billick in the way some folks miss the Soviet Union: both were an enemy that was easy to hate.  Only Bulluck, Kearse and Hentrich are left from the 2000 team that suffered that devastating loss to the Ravens in the playoffs, but that fire still burns for Keith:

Bulluck was asked if Fisher used the word hate.

"No, he didn't," Bulluck said. "He didn't say anything like that, someone else said something."

"Remember who?," Tom Weir of USA Today asked.

"It was me," he said to huge laughs, which he joined. "You had to be there to hear what I said."

Was the H-word in there, I asked?

"There was an F-word in there," he said.

That's awesome.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 As Big W noted in the sidebar, Vince Young returned to practice yesterday without a bulky knee brace or a prayer at starting for the next few weeks.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Paul Kuharsky reports that VY is and will remain a captain for the Titans... I have to admit I'd be real interested to see if he kept that C were the players to vote again.  Also, Kerry isn't very interested in being a back-up next year:

"After sitting for two years and not being a starter, I know I can still do this at high level. It is going to have to be a starting job or I'm going to have to make a decision,'' Collins said. "I feel like I'm a starter. It is going to be hard for me to go back to being a backup.''

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Crazy Legs sits at 2nd in the AFC in rushing yards, and he now sits atop ProFootball Weekly's Rookie Meter with a big does of crow eating by their staff.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Colts G.M. Bill Polian talks about the Titans, during which he makes a darn good point about how pitiful the preparation level is for guys on almost every Sunday morning pre-game show.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Quentin Groves knows what's up: you want to be a star DE in this league, you watch how Boom King takes care of business.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Bulluck talks to Gary Estwick about the often forgotten cultural significance of Ernie Davis, who went to Syracuse 30 plus years before him.  I don't know if I'll make it to the theater to see The Express, but it's a definite must-rent for any football fan.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Big hat tip to Pinoy Titan for passing along this David Fleming gem of a column about our bone-crushing defense.  Fleming caught this great scene during the Vikings game:

I don't want to say the Titans' defense dominated so much that the game got boring or anything. But in the third quarter, when a guy in a red Jevon Kearse jersey passed out in the stands behind the Titans' bench, his buddies entertained the crowd by stacking five empty plastic beer cups on top of the poor dude's slumped-over melon.

 

There's a whole lot of internet out there, so if you have a great link you'd like to submit for tomorrow's Morning Links email me at mcmaugustwest@gmail.com!

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Re: KC wants to be a permanent starter

It’s certainly understandable that he feels this way. But, the reality is that he is filling a role of “game manager” for the Titans. Thusfar, he’s done a great job of taking care of the ball. The running game and defense take care of the rest. However, there are very few teams that are going to win week in and week out with the type of numbers he’s putting up. The Vikings come to mind. Other than them, I can’t think of any teams that would pick him up in the open market with the intention of giving him the starting job. Maybe if he had 4-5 more years in the tank, but I just don’t think the numbers are good enough for him to step in and be a one and done quick fix for a team.

by SuperHorn on Oct 2, 2008 8:53 AM CDT   0 recs

As I had mentioned on another thread...

KC has to know that VY will start again whether he likes it or not. Either he accepts that and be a reliable backup or he can go elsewhere after this season where he has a chance to be a starter and hope they have an offensive line atleast like ours.

Go Titans!

by Pinoy Titan on Oct 2, 2008 9:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's better than anyone on the following rosters (some more so than others):

Vikings, Texans, 49ers, Rams (depending on how Bulger does the rest of this year), Lions, Tampa Bay, probably Chicago… and that’s without looking at an actual list.

Kerry is good enough to get a job on a team that just needs a game manager, especially with the appalling dearth of quality QBs in the NFL right now.

Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!

by August West on Oct 2, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Which makes you think...

are the quality of QBs in the NFL going down or are the defense of NFL teams improving?

Go Titans!

by Pinoy Titan on Oct 2, 2008 9:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think O. Coordinaters are getting too damned cute.

Watch ‘Football Night in America’ this Sunday when they’re scrolling the stats at the bottom, and watch how many QBs throw 40+ passes.

Maybe I’m old school for a 27 year-old, but that ain’t football, and those teams don’t win late in the post-season… other than one Rams team.

I think defenses are starting to punish teams for pulling that junk. You’re going to see a push back to power defense, running oriented offenses and play-action passing over the next few years… Bill Polian even said the NFL is already headed that in the link up above.

Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!

by August West on Oct 2, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Better than others

I happen to think that in the case of pocket passers, QB rating is a pretty good indicator of performance. With that said let’s compare.

Kerry Collins – 81.2

Vikings – Gus Frerote – 70.7
Texans – Matt Shaub – 75.5
49ers – JT O’Sullivan – 90.0
Rams – Marc Bulger – 73.2
Lions – Jon Kitna – 73.6
TB – Brian Griese – 62.5
Chi – Kyle Orton – 78.0

There is maybe a case for TB and maybe Minnesota, but he hasn’t performed dramatically better than the other QBs. His performance has been just what the Titans needed. However, I don’t think the numbers are compelling enough to take him for just one-two years. There isn’t enough upside.

by SuperHorn on Oct 2, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Qb rating isn't very accurate because circumstances like field position, time on the clock, etc. aren't factored in.

Here’s a much better metric showing that Kerry has been the 12th (of 38) best QB to throw over 24 passes this year.

Lets not forget that, while he does have a great O-Line and run game, he’s also playing in a conservative offense with trash at WR. There are several teams that would do undeniably better with Kerry than the chumps their running out there next weekend. He doesn’t have to be Tom Brady and nobody is going to pay him like Tom Brady.

Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!

by August West on Oct 2, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The point isn't that Kerry is a hero.

The point is that in a League full of mediocrity, he is still better than a lot of other options. I hadn’t thought of JT O’Sullivan, but I can well imagine KC working well in the 49er’s current Offense. I also think he is a very good fit for Chicago—where they were a decent QB away from a SB win as recently as two years ago.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not so sure that VY will take the reins again for this team ever.

There is no question that Vince is a gifted athlete and has all the physical tools but I’m not so sure he’ll ever be able to “Get your mind right Luke”. I’m sure that a good part of his issues are due to immaturity but at the same time there has to be a part of you that gets on fire when the critics come down on you and I’m not too sure Vince has that. I’m not trying to jump on the bandwagon here at all I just feel we’re better with a QB like Kerry. With our run game and D we don’t need a Tom Brady. We need a field general who will not turn the ball over and will act like a man and shake stuff off when things go south. Whether that is Kerry next season I don’t know but I do know that it will never be Vince. He just isn’t made up that way. The fact that, from all reports, VY seems to be rebuffing KC’s attempts at tutoring him only furthers my argument. The most intelligent personnel decision we’ve made in years is keeping KC as our backup. Now to let him leave seems idiotic.

by BigW on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 AM CDT   0 recs

You know Simms can take the hits and the criticism.

He’s freaking speenless.

I completely agree with your assessment of VY. I just haven’t observed him to be a disciplined athlete, which is something that the QB position demands. I think we should trade him, keep Kerry as the started, and groom Chris to be the future/backup guy.

If I hit a hole-in-one on this grand slam the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

by jasonkylebates on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like I said in the other thread...

…the real winner in all of this is Simms. Regardless of what happens, he’s gonna be in place to take over if something goes wrong. Given that one guy has had emotional issues and the other guy is older than I am, the odds are good of SOMETHING going wrong at some point between now and the end of next season.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!

by DannoE on Oct 2, 2008 11:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Go Spleen!

I think “the Spleen” was one of the Mystery Men super-heros. Good nickname for Chris.

I have absolutely no freaking idea what’s going to happen at the Titans QB position, but it’s going to be an entertaining side-show. I trust that Fisher and company will keep it under control while still giving us plenty to debate about over the course of the season…

And again, I’m glad KC dropped this little nugget about not wanting to go back to the backup role now rather than later. Gives the wheels more time to spin and avoid a knee-jerk debacle like what happened with Steve.

by numbertenox on Oct 2, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If Kerry Collins was able to bounce back...

i don’t have any doubt that VY can. Let give him a chance. ;)

Go Titans!

by Pinoy Titan on Oct 2, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kerry was always a good QB

He just had a problem with alcohol. It’s much easier to come back to who you were than to develop a completely different persona. KC has the intelligence, leadership, and decision making ability that VY will never have. I hate to sound so pessimistic about VY but I refuse to set myself up for heartbreak with him again. I finally got on board after his rookie year only to see him in steady decline since. As i said above it’s not a matter of athletic ability. He has more of that in his pinky toe than most have in their entire body. It’s the mental part of the game that will always elude him. Maybe he should have been a WR? I can’t believe I’m starting to think like Merrill. Someone shoot me!

by BigW on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BigW

Lots of big words here.

“Whether that is Kerry next season I don’t know but I do know that it will never be Vince.”

“KC has the intelligence, leadership, and decision making ability that VY will never have.”

I haven’t seen you post around here til recently, so let me get a little background. Were you a fan of VY his rookie year? How about last year?

Never is a strong word, especially when you are talking about a $50+ million dollar investment, and one that the organization has seen succeed in as little as two years ago. I’d also add that a completely new offensive coordinator was brought in to make his game work. Maybe Vince doesn’t start this season, that remains to be seen. But, Fisher is playing this out like any other good coach. Get behind the quarterback that is winning. You don’t want Kerry constantly looking over his shoulder. See the Redskins last year…Campbell sat on the bench when he was no longer injured.

My gut tells me that you are making a mountain out of a mole here by jumping to definitive conclusions like Vince will never start again is crazy. It defies any sort of reasonable, objective logic…

by SuperHorn on Oct 2, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Apparently since...

…. i haven’t posted around here until recently I’ve never seen a Titans football game? Is that the logic? Like August said it was my opinion to which I am entitled. I’m sorry to injure your blind allegiance to Vince. Was not my intention. I’m just calling a spade a spade. I still personally believe Vince just doesn’t have what it takes in terms of mental toughness. If it turns out I’m wrong in a year or so I’ll be the first to admit it. I’ll get behind and support whoever starts for this team. If Vince can get his mind right and stop acting like a high school athlete he could be great. I just personally don’t see it happening.

by BigW on Oct 2, 2008 1:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The "logic"

to the question was just to get an understanding if you have always had these feelings about Vince. Every fan is entitled to their opinion. In this case, I think yours is misguided, premature, and wrong, but as you said you are certainly entitled to it.

by SuperHorn on Oct 2, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As i said before I get...

…. behind anyone who is our QB. That being said i’ve never felt he was up to snuff in the intelligence department. In previous seasons I had hoped it was because he was just young but now I’m starting to see that maybe that isn’t the case.

by BigW on Oct 2, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You remind me

Of this article written by The Onion.

by SuperHorn on Oct 2, 2008 3:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I suppose....

…. we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. A couple of years from now we’ll revisit this and one of us will have to admit defeat. Either way it’s fun to stir the pot! hehe

by BigW on Oct 2, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a bit overblown

He’s going to get his shot again, there’s no doubt about that.

As for sounding like Hoge, everyone is entitled to a reasonable opinion: it’s talking like a irresponsible, petty nutcase that draws my ire.

Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!

by August West on Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bill Polian is awesome.

He is the quintessential GM. I love that he acknowledges the Titans for their accomplishments thus far, and accurately assesses the reasons for their success.

He is, without question, the best at what he does.

If I hit a hole-in-one on this grand slam the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

by jasonkylebates on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 AM CDT   0 recs

What Bill said was one of the most balanced analyses I have seen.

He really laid it out in bare terms. Seems like a good GM.

by DZone on Oct 2, 2008 11:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Scott Piloi would like to have a word with you...

Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!

by August West on Oct 2, 2008 12:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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