Vince doesn't run the ball anymore?

by abcdmetrius on Jan 6, 2008 6:27 PM CST Comment 18 comments

horns fan just checking in ... haven't gotten to catch the titans much at all this year ... but i noticed today that there's little to no scrambling from vince young ... and i can't for the life of my fathom why ... can any of you give me insight into why this is

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If some1 has that answer

I'd sure like to hear it.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 6, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

There are several theories:

Norm Chow's playcalling sucks.
VY has hurt his quad twice this season, and either he or the coaches have decided he should lay off on the scrambling until it's fully healed.

3. VY listened too much to his critics who said in the offseason that he isn't a good enough pocket passer to make it in the NFL, so he's trying to prove them wrong by not running.

I prefer to think it's either #1 or #2, because those are both more easily fixed than #3. #1 by FIRING NORM CHOW, #2 by time.

by hartley on Jan 6, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm leaning

towards #3. He looked pretty healthy that 1st time he took off in the 1st Quarter.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 6, 2008 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

And it's just so wrong-headed...

...if it's true.

I mean, look, there are some VERY successful QBs in this league who scramble, even if they don't rush forwards.

Jeff Garcia rolls out of the pocket on virtually every play. He's into his 30s now, and STILL making it work.

Jay Cutler also rolls out of the pocket a lot, even if I wouldn't call him very successful yet.

Donovan McNabb and Steve McNair are also 2 very good examples, although they are now both showing the possible downside, as cumulative injuries are hurting them.

by hartley on Jan 6, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mix in

a little bit of # 1

by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 6, 2008 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Losing this game

didn't seem to bother him as much as his losses last year. I don't know what's his deal. Norm Chow was coaching him last year too, so i kind of doubt it's him. It's not that the coaches aren't using him well. It's that he's not utilizing his own talent as well. He's not being himself. That really bothers me, because no matter who coaches him, that's up to him to make that decision. Vince seems more worried about proving critics wrong than winning games. I'm glad we don't have any more games for a while because I got sick of watching a guy who we know is talented waste it. It's frustrating. Maybe we should draft a QB in the first round to bring him back down to earth. Winning ROY last year and getting the Madden cover were the worst things that could have happened to him.

by kpocyclo on Jan 6, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I'm not that worried about him yet.

by hartley on Jan 6, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so it's been like this the whole season?

that's his x factor ... i don't see why he wouldn't use it
no he's not a pocket passer ... he doesn't have to be
special players come in all shapes, sizes, and with different abilities

by abcdmetrius on Jan 6, 2008 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, pretty much.

But somehow it's gotten into his head that's how you succeed in the big leagues.

But VY is never going to be Peyton Manning, and we don't want a Peyton-like player on this team, anyway. A prolific pocket passer would be wasted in Jeff Fisher's old-school game philosophy.

by hartley on Jan 6, 2008 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

how aggravating

for that you could've just drafted leinhart

by abcdmetrius on Jan 6, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

leinart sucks

id rather have billy volek.

by nvemvp23 on Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

to clear that up, rather have volek than lienart.

by nvemvp23 on Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Or Cutler

for that matter. But I will stand by Vince. He is still young, and will mature and improve.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 6, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

does....

Does anyone notice that Vince seems more serious this year. I mean when they show his face it seems like he's trying to over thing things, instead of just having fun. Like he came into last year and didn't think he was playing for anything (till the end)so he was very relaxed, this year I think he's trying to hard to go to the Superbowl and all and he's locking up more tring to make the perfect play.

by jmac1383 on Jan 7, 2008 3:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think BY hurt his leg a lot worse than he...

...was letting on. He was running a lot early in the season. Much less lately. Honestly, I think it's just that his leg hurt, and he didn't want to hurt it worse.

Also, the Chargers specifically schemed to keep him in the pocket, and they are pretty fast on Defense. He still had one decent run, but especially in the second half, the O-Line was TERRIBLE. NO ONE could have succeeded with that pressure and field position.

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by DannoE on Jan 7, 2008 7:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I have noticed as well that he was not smiling

I noticed as well that he was not smiling much. Last week when the Titans faced the Colts he looked like he was very worried at the beginning of the game before kick-off. That look did not change as the game neared the half. Kerry came in and got the win for the Titans so they did not show Young much in the second half. However when the camera did show him he did not look very pleased.
This week against the Chargers he had that same concerned look on his face. It was as if he knew he was in a big time game and he was starting to realize that he is not the best player on the field anymore and that it would take a monumental effort to win the ball game. Perhaps he is maturing a little, who knows? One can only hope.

JOY KAT

by Bergman on Jan 7, 2008 8:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs