Titans Roster Evaluation: Quarterback
It is time to take a look at all of the positions on the roster to figure out what we have and what we need. Naturally we will start with the quarterback position. I don't think anything has been debated more on this site than the play of Vince Young. Take a look at his stats from the last 2 seasons:
| 2006 | Stat | 2007 |
| 184 | Completions | 238 |
| 357 | Attempts | 382 |
| 51.5 | Completion % | 62.3 |
| 2,199 | Passing Yards | 2,546 |
| 12 | Touchdown Passes | 9 |
| 13 | Interceptions | 17 |
| 25 | Sacked | 25 |
| 66.7 | Passer Rating | 71.1 |
| 552 | Rushing Yards | 395 |
We talk about the huge step back he took in 2007, but he actually was statistically better in completions, completion percentage, yards, and passer rating. The reason he was getting ripped all season is because he threw less touchdowns and more interceptions. A 9:17 touchdown to interception ratio is not going to cut it. I don't think you will find anyone that says it will, but I think we can take the fact that he was better in the other areas of the passing statistics to mean that he is learning some things.
The other big knock on Vince was the fact that his rushing numbers were so far down this season. In my opinion that is the biggest issue that needs to be addressed in the offseason. The reason he wasn't running needs to be figured out and worked out. If he didn't run as much because he was more injured that the team let on then I understand that, but if it was because he was trying to prove he is a pocket passer, or Norm Chow was trying to make him a pocket passer, that is unacceptable. The organization didn't draft him because of his ability to stand in the pocket and make throws. They drafted him because of his ability to make things happen. That is what he did in his rookie season. Maybe Jeff Fisher and Chow wanted a pocket passer, but Bud Adams wanted Vince, and they better figure out how to use him to the best of his ability. If they don't it will haunt this organization for years.
Vince has a lot of work to do this offseason as well. His accuracy has to improve. The windows are small in this league, and if you can't fit the ball in them you aren't going to have success. He also has to hit his receivers in stride and give them a chance to make a play. There were a lot of times this season that the receivers were open and could have run after the catch, but they had to wait on the ball and the defender was able to catch up and make the tackle.
The other thing Vince needs to work on is his study habits. A lot was made of Kevin Mawae's comments about Vince. I still think he was saying that Vince needs to spend more time in the film room. The great quarterbacks in this league see as much in their pre-snap reads as they do after the ball is snapped. They learn that stuff from studying film. Vince needs to do a better job of knowing the opposing defenses inside and out.
The other place that shows is in all the throws where the receiver goes one way and the ball goes the other. On every play the receivers and Vince are reading the defense and adjusting accordingly. We are never sure if it is Vince's fault or the receiver's fault, but when it happens that many times it is on both parties.
At this point it is on Vince. Fisher has proven that Vince is his guy. He is going to stick with him through thick and thin. We all knew that is was going to take some time for him to make the adjustment to this league. We were spoiled by the success he had in his rookie year. I still think he is the right guy going forward for this team, as long as he is willing to put in the work it takes. I think he will come back next season more hungry than he has ever been.
Kerry Collins proved this year that he is a valuable backup. He has one more season left on his contract, and I hope he will be back. He can't be the guy for 16 games anymore, but he is a veteran that knows the game and knows his role. Collins realizes he is here to help Vince learn the game and step in and play when Vince is hurt. He is a valuable asset to this team.
I don't see the Titans making any moves at the quarterback position this offseason. Vince is still their guy, and Collins is the right type of backup.
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It was nice to see both Manning and Rivers...
As for Eli, how good must it feel for him to finally, unquestionably outplay his brother? He led his team to a ROAD victory over a better team than the one his brother faced. That must feel awesome.
My point in all of this is that both Rivers and Manning are FOURTH year QBs who are only now just starting to live up to their potential. And both have A LOT more weapons on offense than did the Titans last season. Like it or not, all of these guys have struggles with INTs at some point in their development--while occasionally playing very well. That's not TERRIFIC, but it is better than the alternative a la what's going on in San Francisco and/or Chicago.
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by DannoE on Jan 14, 2008 9:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can't stand
But it was nice to see Manning play well again, and quiet some of the critics.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 14, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Fisher
Chow, on the other hand, is a different story. I was sure Leinart was gonna be our man.
No matter, we have what we have. Vince will grow.
by Rustmeister on Jan 14, 2008 9:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Coaching
I think if Vince's stats improved, but he threw for less TD's it sounds like playcalling to me.
Also, a new QB in the league does have to learn how to watch film, but aren't his coaches supposed to teach him how to do that? Now, If his coaches ARE telling him that and he still isn't picking it up then we have a problem.
All the things he's supposed to be doing and learning. Don't we have QB coaches, OC's, and veteran backups that are supposed to help him with that?
Anyway, Vince will be fine. I was just thinking about that.
by theologic on Jan 14, 2008 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Talking about QBs
SWEET!
I still like Volek! Way to go!
Lets now pray he can beat the Pats also...
by brazilian fan on Jan 14, 2008 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 14, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see the Giants hoist the trophy.
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by DannoE on Jan 14, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
100% Here as well
by Hook em Titans on Jan 14, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
vince
you guys dont sweat it, if we get some good super star recievers and a tightend and some offensive linemen the skys the limit. i still think we need some offensive linemen to help protect him though. iam pushing for that after the skill guys get drafted.
the one thing i worry about more so then vinces play is everybody comming back in the second half of the games this year. seems like we cant put a entire game together and screw up towards the end and let teams get back into the game. i think thats a coaching problem that the players are not staying motivated towards the end of the games its happend a few times this year.
i think once we get vince comfotable in the offence and get some awasome probowl type of linemen in there to protect him and some recivers who can catch and run after they catch it plus a pacman whos back we will go deep into the playoffs next year.
my reasoning for not scoring any points this year is we got genaric recivers. they dont have any experice of playing with vince also, gage and moulds are new this year, havent had any time to get on the same page as vince. jones is hurt constantly but the one who shined most was roydell and hes had alot more time to work with vince then gage or molds.
norm chow is my other concern. him saying vince pouts isnt a good sign in my mind of their relationship. if vince and him part ways i think vince will have learned alot from chow and will draw off of what chow tought him for his entire carrer. i think it might be a good idea to get somebody in there new that can relate to vince better. didnt his old college coach say the best way to teach vince is to let him go and do his thing instead of trying to hammer a phlopopy into him which i think norm chow is doing.
i hate to say it but on the job training for a offensive cordinator in the nfl wouldnt be something i would do again. i would like to see somebody with a proven track record and a proven system that works in the nfl. i wouldnt want to see some grand experiment if a college guy can come to the nfl with his system and have success. again! forever! aman!
vince needs to get more accurate on his deep thorws but iam not to worried about it he was doing great there towards the end of the year. he had a slump there for a few games but i think that happens no matter how great you are.
what we need is offesive linemen nobody on here is saying it. i think we got a dimond in the rough with roos in the late rounds of the draft. i dont even know if he was playign football was he when we drafted him? . but i surley do think if vince didnt worry so much about having to run for his life he would become more accurate seen it time and again. qwaterback has all day to throw they will more then likly make the throw. if they are running for their lives they are more likely to miss and toss interectpions.
so iam all for some receivers a tightend who can block and catch and offensive linemen that dominate the line to protect our goldenboy. i want a dominate offensive, a powerhouse with lendale busting up people on his running and our nible fleet footed qwaterback making throws cus he has time to make them.
by dentureboy on Jan 14, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TD's are low
by titanbt53 on Jan 15, 2008 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
most important aspect of the offseason
it is imperative that vince gets better at this...
in his rookie season it was all about Vince simply understanding the Titans plays....he didn't then, and that led him to a lot of look at the primary option, then run...
now this season he clearly understands our plays better...as Jaws has pointed out, he understands how to progress through his reads and shown the patience in the pocket to go through all the options....it has resulted in Vince running less, but it has also helped improve his accuracy...
however...
now he must learn to be able to understand how the play called matches up against his pre-snap read...
Like Mawea said, there were times that Roos would understand that the play was wrong against the defense and Vince wouldn't...
by zackmann on Jan 15, 2008 12:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My take on Vince...
- The obvious---TD/Int ratio...granted he didn't have much to work with, so the lack of TD's doesn't bother me nearly as much as the picks
- Lack of faith- I think a lot of Coach Fisher, and it is obvious that he didn't have faith in VY many times during the season. Whether it be at the end of the half, or even protecting a lead. He didn't put VY in a position to fail, yet he didn't put him where he could succeed either.
- Running- It is obvious that teams put a spy on him with the running....that is why he NEVER broke a long one (disappointing), but if there is a spy, then there should be a receiver open to hit....it just didn't happen. That is either his fault, or Chow's fault...not sure on that one.
- 4th Quarter- I hate when people say just get him the ball and a chance in the 4th quarter...that was true in college, and he did an incredible job at it his rookie year....but not this season. Take the playoff game. Down 10-6 at the start of the quarter with the ball in the red zone. Nothing. Next two possessions down 17-6...nothing. Where was the magic? Now I know it is not a switch that you can turn on and off, but these are NFL players he is playing against, and the magic isn't automatic.
- Completion Percentage- yes it is better than last year...but a large majority of his passes were safe throws, 5 yards or less. He did a good job at that, but I hope to see him open up his game.
by gotitans27 on Jan 15, 2008 11:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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