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Bobby Wade got $3 mil a year?  Look, I was leading the Bobby Wade back with the Titans campaign, but that is absurd.  He had 33 catches and 2 TDs in 2006.  2!!  Can anyone guess how many that gives him for his career?  Anyone, anyone?  That's right, 2.  So now he is getting paid $1.5 million per TD.  

It is being reported in today's Tennessean that Jamar Fletcher and Donte Stallworth will be meeting with the Titans today.  

Jamar Fletcher is a guy who was a 1st round pick in 2001.  He has been a bit of a journey-man but did have a nice year in Detroit last year with 3 picks.

The report also says Stallworth is looking for either a 5 to 6 year deal with a $12 million signing bonus or a 1 year deal where he can put up some numbers and get paid in 2008.  I would be all for the Titans giving him a 1 year deal.  If he could come in stay healthy and be a good locker room guy, a long term extension could get done.

Chris Brown will meet with the Bills today afer Dominic Rhodes met with them yesterday.  Reinfeldt said yesterday that Brown is a guy he wants back.  Brown is a baby.  Someone should really bring Reinfeldt up to speed on what has gone on here in the past few seasons.  What do you think Zack?

Robaire Smith met with the Browns yesterday.  No word on if the Titans have even made him an offer yet.

The Titans have expressed interest in Kelly Washington.  Why?  I am not sure.  Of course, if he is on the Bobby Wade pay scale the Titans will have to pay him $13.5 million for his 9 career TDs.  

I have neither been able to confirm or deny that the Titans are also interested in Willie Gault.  Why are the Titans interested in every player who played for the Vols?  How many guys have come in from UT and done anything for the Titans.

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Dominic Rhodes
I heard last night late on ESPN that Rhodes was going to visit the Titans.  I have not heard that anywhere else.

by VY on Mar 7, 2007 8:28 AM CST reply actions  

stallworth
i'm pretty sure I read that he signed a contract with the Pats...
[quote]NFL.com - Adam Schefter of NFL.com is reporting that Donte Stallworth has agreed to a deal with the New England Patriots.[/quote]
http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_archives/4206/20070306/report_stallworth_joins_new_england /

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

I heard
that he turned that deal down.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

gotcha
well, if he wants us to pay that or more, he is crazy...an injury prone WR that is in the substance abuse program doesn't exactly excite me for more money than drew bennett just signed for...

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

That is why
I am hoping for the one year deal.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

whoops...
the quote block didn't work...how does the syntax go again?  i'm use to: [quote][/quote]

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

You have to use
a href

HTML is not great on this site.

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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

new GM
Our GM doesn't say much to the press, but when he does, I'm floored by what he is saying...

the latest is this quote about Chris Brown:

"He's a player that we want back," Reinfeldt said of Brown. "I talked to his agent before free agency started and I've talked to him two or three times since."

Why?  Why?  Why?

He played his way into the 3rd string RB last year and also asked to be traded...he is way too injury prone...why on god's green Earth do we want him back?

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

It's
Easy to see why the Titans haven't made a splash in FA yet.  Everyone is over priced.  Maybe Jamar will be a nice fit.

As for Stallworth. He already turned down a 5 year 32m deal. What the heck are we willing to offer him?

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

Say what?
Um...isn't Gault RETIRED?

He hasn't played pro-football in about 15 years. He's been running track in the over 40 league...

I really don't think that rumor is true at all.

by TitansFanatic on Mar 7, 2007 10:20 AM CST reply actions  

That
was sarcasm.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

UT
Being that I attend the University of Memphis, I'm proud to say I can't stand UT...I hope we don't sign any free agent or draft any player that played for UT...

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

Zack
I couldn't agree with you more.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow...
Wow, are you serious?

You know Tennessee actually produces some good NFL talent. Just because you hate the Vols doesn't mean they can't be productive for the Titans.

by TitansFanatic on Mar 7, 2007 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm kindof serious...kindof not...
if given the choice, i'd rather not have to cheer for a Vol...I will if the titans take one of course...i loved Henry last year even though he was a Vol...but if I could, I would not want any vols on my favorite NFL team...

I just don't like UT...I hate that puke orange color...i usually dislike the people that live in memphis that are vols fans...

heck (and i'm in rant mode here, sorry), I hate turning on sports talk radio and hearing about UT and Ole Miss...and it isn't a coincidence that the 2 players I root against the most in the NFL are Peyton and Eli Manning, who happen to have attended UT and Ole Miss...

And just for the record, the Titans now have a Memphis Tiger on the roster...Tony Brown :)

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh my gosh...
Rolls eyes. And as a Vol fan...if we got a Memphis player...if he helped the team I'D BE ALL FOR IT.

You don't want Meachem? What if he played for another team in college. He's a good WR and a nice guy...why wouldn't you want him on your team?

Hell I hate Florida but when Jevon became a Titan I forgot all about the fact he was a former Gator.

by TitansFanatic on Mar 7, 2007 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

I was kidding
I don't care where guys went to school as long as they are productive for the Titans.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

no i don't want Meachem
I don't want us to draft any WR in the 1st 3 rounds...so that means I don't want Meachem...

I'd prefer us to draft defense this year...

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry...
Okay good.

I tend to flip-out sometimes, lol.

by TitansFanatic on Mar 7, 2007 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

The New guy.
on NFL Network last night they mentioned "We know how the Titans are going to handle their RB situation after losing Travis Henry". They then showed LenDale White and Gunther Somethingrather. Are these guys enough to carry the load for the season?

If we pick up a FA WR then what position would our 1st and 2nd pick most likely address.

by ElectricScissors on Mar 7, 2007 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

Crap shoot
It's all a crap shoot.  back in the mid 90's who would of thought that a 7th(?) rd pick nicked named TD would do what he did for the broncos?  

Maybe Gunther is that next gem!  

As for 1st and 2nd.  what I'd like to see is a package of picks used to move up and try to get Calvin Johnson, just because he is such a rare talent.  But if that can't be done then either sit tight at 19 and take a DE or trade out of it and take a DE in the 2nd. This is a pretty deep and good class of DE and I think you can find some real value in the 2nd round. so why pay first round dollars?  

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I would give
this year's 1st, 3rd and next year's 1st to get Johnson.  I think the Titans will stay at #19 and then try to package something to move back into the late 1st round.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

info on clements deal
i found this interesting...

"Howard Balzer of the Sports Xchange explains that the eight-year, $80 million deal given by the 49ers to cornerback Nate Clements contains a phony final year, which automatically will be voided when a $10 million option bonus is paid to the player in 2008.

So either the option bonus won't be paid, and it'll be just a one-year deal -- or the option bonus will be paid, and the contract will be worth $64.02 million over seven years.

This is far different from a puffed up back end; it's a complete fabrication of the final year.

They could have picked any number for that final year.  Instead of eight years, $80 million, the contract could have been eight years, $100 million.  Or eight years, $800 million.  Or eight years, infinity.

So why did they plop $15.98 million into the eighth year that will disappear a year from now?  It was, in our view, a favor to the agent, who'll now be able to trumpet to recruits the fact that he negotiated an "eight-year, $80 million" contract.

He didn't.  It's seven years, $64.02 million.  Still impressive, but not as catchy."

by zackmann on Mar 7, 2007 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

I don' think they
ever announced it but Rhodes and Harper are scheduled to be here tomorrow.

Chris Brown is going to visit Detroit after Buffalo.  Hopefully one of those 2 will sign him.

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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm!
Maybe it was Chris Brown?  Since he is still considered in town it was easy to hide the visit. :-p

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I pray
that buffalo signs him, that will make them more inclined to trade McGahee.  Rhodes was just arrested recently wasn't he?  I don't want Harper, not that we should do what I want. I want Hamlin.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Rhodes
did get a DUI this offseason.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

BBB
He'd be a perfect FIT.  He could drive Jones around while he deals to Stallworth!  LOL  

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's
hilarious. But I figured we already had a driver. Hayensworth.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 1:39 PM CST reply actions  

NO NO!
He's the body guard. Muscle for the crew if you will.  The guy who will bloody someone with a kick in the head

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

you guys
are Brutal....

by Titans Fan 10 on Mar 7, 2007 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

If
can't have fun then what can you have?  to be serious for a second though. I'm glad other NFL players are tired of it. a nice 3 strikes and you are out, we don't want you anymore, go play in canada rule is cool

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The only problem
is how do you define a strike?
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

tough
that is a tough call.  Clear way to do it is a conviction.  

But take our very own lovable Pacman and 10 incidents since being drafted?  

Also is it a conviction on a felony only?

by white02slpss on Mar 7, 2007 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

So Pacman
has no strikes?  That seems a little off.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Then what
is your idea of a strike. You cannot make being in a club where there is a shooting a strike. You cannot be allegedly the guy who starts the shooting and get a strike.  You cannot get a DWI and have it dismissed and have it be a strike. Everything is open to interpretation if you don't make a solid straight line. What are we gonna let the commissioner decide what a strike is depending on the offense? he will only give it where he sees fit. He could just give strikes based on his dislike for a player.  You cannot just give out strikes as soon as charges are pressed against someone. Most charges end up getting dismissed, so they cannot count as strikes.  I think teams need their own rules, giving strikes how they see fit, but they need backing from the league and the union.  They need stiffer curfews, I know grown men don't want curfews but maybe if more of these players acted like men it wouldn't be needed.  

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

That is my point
exactly.  The strike thing is to vague.  The only person in the league that would have any strikes would be Chris Henry if you go by convictions only.
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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I have
a problem. Since the whole Vegas incedent I have been a big Pacman advocate. I really don't know how to feel anymore. I didn't have any sympathy for this guy because I also was brought up without a father. But now my feelings about him are changing. The more I read about the guy, the more I am trying to figure out how he has made it this far without dying. I couldn't even imagine going through half of what he has gone through. So I think I am going to change my tune for now.  I want him to get help, and I am here hoping he can make a change for the better.  Also, as far as the team I think the best thing that could happen for us this off-season is this guy turning it around. This may have come across kind of corny, but I just wanted to share some of my feelings with my fellow fans.  

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 5:25 PM CST reply actions  

Big Bad Bulluck *I HAVE* a reply ..
I guess the problem is that most of us are privaleged in the sense that we had at least 1 good parent and we have no clue (or won't admit!) except YOU BBB of what's that like; thank you for being Real. I had 2 parents of which 1 (the father) was abusive as hell; and my Mother did the best she could. And we're talking middle class Folks. But in Adam's case, he had NEITHER.

The kid comes from an Atlanta ghetto and was talented; scum around him saw they had a shot at keeping him "close" since they are all "homeys" and used that to hone in on him to use him. Adam overnight became a millionaire. The "vulchers" saw the chance at capitalizing on that and proceeded  to do so. And they will USE HIM UP until they drain him and/or kill him unless he's removed from "that World".

Deon Sanders has reached out to "Pac" and that's the only kind of "rehab" the guy could possibly relate to.

And I hope Adam picks up his phone and calls Deon.

And this situation could end up an NFL story to go down in history for "bad guy gone good" if Pac turns his life around. And needless to say, we as Fans benefit too ie. something to shine about for yrs to come and put the damn nay-sayers to shame ....

Pick up the phone, Pac, and call DEON.

But it certainly does no good for Adam to see that he has ZERO support from Titans fans. I even "took the pulse" of my section of rural TN and believe it or not? They want the same for the kid too .. no churchy crap, just real ppl who are far from "well-to-do" who aren't hypocrites. It was refreshing finding that out ..

I have "changed my tune" and hope you guys re-consider as well ..........

Take good care Folks and btw, anyone heard of March Madness? smiles

be safe ..

by Ross @ Music City Miracles on Mar 7, 2007 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry,
that should have been a diary, wasn't expecting to go that far with it.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

I am right there
with you you BBB... i love the guy on the field and how he grew up... sometimes it's hard to just break free of everything he'd ever known pre-titans so i don't i think i might be the only one on here who feels the same but i hope he can turn it around.

by Titans Fan 10 on Mar 7, 2007 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

This is great discussion
I want to start by saying that I am very excited to have everyone reading and commenting on this site.  This site is all about being a Titan fan community and those of you who have been commenting every day are making it a great place to be.  It makes what I do so much more fun.

Everyone is raising good points about Pacman.  I will never be able to understand what he goes through as I come from a home with 2 awesome parents. (my dad even reads this site every day)  I have been very critical of him but I have never once hoped he wouldn't turn it around.

To be honest, at this point I really hope he turns it around for himself as a person, nevermind football.  Deion Sanders knows better than anyone what it is like to be living that life.  I hope that Pacman will listen to what Deion has to say to him.

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by Jimmy on Mar 7, 2007 10:16 PM CST reply actions  

This discussion
started because of the 3 strike rule being brought up.  I started thinking pretty hard about whether or not he deserves strikes for what he has done, and that took me to some of the articles I have been reading.

 I don't really think you can give a guy strikes for things he hasn't been really found guilty of.  I mean he is probably guilty in the court of public opinion and also in the eyes of his fans on this site, but he hasn't pulled a trigger or gotten a felony charge placed on his record.

Maybe the league could do something like a 3 strike policy base on misdemeanors, who knows 1/4 the league may not make it through the season.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 10:56 PM CST reply actions  

Oh yeah,
and have we signed anyone yet?  I think we may see some players that signed deals this off-season get cut before we start signing.

by Big Bad Bulluck on Mar 7, 2007 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

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